How to get out of debt!

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Anonymous wrote:Op needs to see where the leaks in her budget are. I think she can still cut on some of her expenses and she needs to make a habit of it. Every extra $ earned needs to go in towards debt otherwise it would never come down.

WHAT leaks? I'm so confused.

OP puts $2,000 to credit card + $700 car loan + $950 rent = $3650 out of $4500 take-home pay. That's about 80% of her take-home pay going to housing and debt(including car).

She's living off of 4500-3650= $850/month for everything: food, gas, tolls and parking, clothing, shoes, copays, OTC meds, entertainment, the very occasional treat or gift.

She doesn't have room for leaks and any she could find would be minimal and not meaningful towards her debt.

That could be true but then OP needs to work more to accelerate paying off this debt. Just by making minimum payments, it would take decades to pay it off.

RIGHT! Now you are getting it.

That's why at her age 42, and with her health issues, and lack of assets like a house, bankruptcy is an appropriate step to take.

But she needs to fix her financial attitude and budget before bankruptcy, or she will end up in the same spot. Most everything is about "how I cannot possibly cut that back or I need this car" Thinking you can afford $700/month car payment when you make $60K is a key part of that issue.

You aren't wrong, intellectually. But ironically, if she fixes her budget before filing for bankruptcy, she won't be approved for Chapter 7.

If she sells her car and gets a beater (so no more car payments) and leaves her apartment and moves in with a relative (so no more rent) she will technically have enough cash to pay off 25% of her debt in 5 years... and so that's what she will be told to do and will be put into a Chapter 13.

It's a curious phenomenon I read about called "Thrifting your way into a Chapter 13". And it allows you to keep your house if you have one.

I don't think OP's situation calls for a Chapter 13 though. If she made a ton of money, or owed debts to small business owners or family members, I'd feel she had more of a moral obligation to pay at least 25% of them off. But credit card companies are a HUGE business and make money hand over fist offering credit when they shouldn't, enticing people to use their cards to earn rewards, and charging outrageously high fees. They took a risk on OP and some risks fail. That's why OP was paying such high rates on her cards and loans.

OP should feel no compunction about defaulting on her credit card debt. Go through the Chapter 7 process. Learn about it. Figure out what your true expenses are, and don't forget you are allowed to budget for care for your elderly relative. Make sure your expenses accurately reflect what you should be spending if you didn't have to spend $2000 monthly on minimum payments. Read about it. Learn about it. Then visit a good bankruptcy lawyer to help you file.

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As long as she does the changing the attitude afterwards it's good. I'll admit I'm no expert in bankruptcy because I have always lived within my means.

But I have a family
Member who filed and then still got into trouble because they did not change their mindset. And imo, we shouldn't be co tuning to pay for people who don't want to help themselves.

I mean my 25 yo knows they cannot afford a $700 car payment so they are still driving their 11yo car with only 110K on it. It's a Honda and the repairs have been minimal. They get that saving $400/month to save for a new car (in another 3-5 years) is the smart thing to do. They will have $20k when they need a new car (been saving for 3 so far) and will get $5k trade in. So only need to finance $10k or so for a nice new car 🚙

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Geez, that car has to go. And the OP shouldn't be looking for a nice car; she should be looking for the cheapest, most operational car she can find. She is broke.

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I guess she is in big trouble already and her beliefs that she needs a good car when she can't afford it says a lot.

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Op here. an update from my side - I was able to pick up some extra hours at work and make some extra money on calls. I did decide to change my college for RN and would be able to finish it sooner than the college I was supposed to be enrolled earlier. I was able to bring some of the CC debt down with extra hours but my health issues are also requiring extra $s. I got car-refinanced and that reduced my monthly payments by close to $200/mo. With all this, I don't have much time to date or don't anything fun but hope soon I would be able to enjoy life a little.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. an update from my side - I was able to pick up some extra hours at work and make some extra money on calls. I did decide to change my college for RN and would be able to finish it sooner than the college I was supposed to be enrolled earlier. I was able to bring some of the CC debt down with extra hours but my health issues are also requiring extra $s. I got car-refinanced and that reduced my monthly payments by close to $200/mo. With all this, I don't have much time to date or don't anything fun but hope soon I would be able to enjoy life a little.

Good to see someone being so responsible. You go OP!

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she still has a long way to go and with her poor health, I doubt how long she can continue to do this. Hard labor of nursing for 50-60 hrs/week catches up on you but still a decent start.

OP, did you find a roommate or someone else to share your monthly rent?

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Op, did you check on adjusting the interest rates with your CC. They would barely make you pay minimum on what you have explained us before.