Feel like I need to babysit my professors so I get my extra time accommodation

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why some people can get more time in college.

I really hope this doesn't flow up to the workforce next. Employee A wants more time for his deadline but Employee B isn't eligible for more time, meanwhile the customer still wants it in the same timeframe.

It does flow up to the workplace, dummy. Clearly you aren't a manager or an important person anywhere. There are laws inlace to allow or the extra time.

There is no law in place to allow a nurse to deliver medications 2 hours later to allow a project manager to deliver the project to his client a week past the clients deadline. Nice try.

Are you bigotedly pushing disabled people out of the workplace

Jesus H. Christ on a Triscuit. Do you want a nurse anesthetist who needs twice as long to figure out the combination and dose of drugs to give you during surgery, knowing that even a tiny error or slip up could mean lights out? What about a fireman who requires an extra 50% time to get to your house and hook up the hose while your home and all your possessions are going up in flames?

It's easy to virtue signal and sound woke about these issues in the abstract and theoretical setting of an anonymous forum. But when it's your life or livelihood on the line, no one wants to put it in the hands of a DEI or special accommodations hire.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

No they don't. It's "professor".

Students below the T10 struggle with "professor." They have an easier time with "Doctor," which is why so many professors at these schools introduce themselves that way.

Funny. Students at my parents T300 school knew to use doctor and professor 30 years ago. It’s not a ranking problem, it’s a how kids are raised problem. American children are now being raised to disrespect everything about higher education. They think they’re paying customers.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, the professors will give you your desired extra time but this needs to be planned out and scheduled for you and many others. There is no administrative help for this. Professors get random letters over the first three weeks of a semester requesting a wide variety of accommodations. Implementing the broad assortment of requests is another matter. You, Op, only have your one request to worry about. Just speak up and talk with the professor a week or so prior to an exam to make sure your extra time is programmed in. The professors are happy to do it. No one is willfully trying to deny you of your accommodation. Just open up a dialogue and follow up to make sure the provisions are programmed in correctly. For example, professors can’t see your schedule, so they would need to program your start time either earlier than the regular class or end later than your regular class time. They also have to put in the accommodations of all the other 15 students as well. It can change for every test. It’s a lot of logistics added on to the creation and launching of an online test. Try to get some perspective from the side of your professor, too.

This is BS. There is a department in place for this very reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, the professors will give you your desired extra time but this needs to be planned out and scheduled for you and many others. There is no administrative help for this. Professors get random letters over the first three weeks of a semester requesting a wide variety of accommodations. Implementing the broad assortment of requests is another matter. You, Op, only have your one request to worry about. Just speak up and talk with the professor a week or so prior to an exam to make sure your extra time is programmed in. The professors are happy to do it. No one is willfully trying to deny you of your accommodation. Just open up a dialogue and follow up to make sure the provisions are programmed in correctly. For example, professors can’t see your schedule, so they would need to program your start time either earlier than the regular class or end later than your regular class time. They also have to put in the accommodations of all the other 15 students as well. It can change for every test. It’s a lot of logistics added on to the creation and launching of an online test. Try to get some perspective from the side of your professor, too.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

No they don't. It's "professor".

Students below the T10 struggle with "professor." They have an easier time with "Doctor," which is why so many professors at these schools introduce themselves that way.

Funny. Students at my parents T300 school knew to use doctor and professor 30 years ago. It’s not a ranking problem, it’s a how kids are raised problem. American children are now being raised to disrespect everything about higher education. They think they’re paying customers.

They are the paying customers. They pay more than any other country. I don't think the are being raised to be disrespectful on purpose.
Our society has become more casual and there are a lot of humble professors who are more than okay to go by their first names.
Times have changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, the professors will give you your desired extra time but this needs to be planned out and scheduled for you and many others. There is no administrative help for this. Professors get random letters over the first three weeks of a semester requesting a wide variety of accommodations. Implementing the broad assortment of requests is another matter. You, Op, only have your one request to worry about. Just speak up and talk with the professor a week or so prior to an exam to make sure your extra time is programmed in. The professors are happy to do it. No one is willfully trying to deny you of your accommodation. Just open up a dialogue and follow up to make sure the provisions are programmed in correctly. For example, professors can’t see your schedule, so they would need to program your start time either earlier than the regular class or end later than your regular class time. They also have to put in the accommodations of all the other 15 students as well. It can change for every test. It’s a lot of logistics added on to the creation and launching of an online test. Try to get some perspective from the side of your professor, too.

+1

This is very strange wording. They get very specific accommodation letters. There is nothing random about that. I wonder why her college has been telling her the opposite. There is a disconnect between what student services tells students professors will do and what the professors actually do.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why some people can get more time in college.

I really hope this doesn't flow up to the workforce next. Employee A wants more time for his deadline but Employee B isn't eligible for more time, meanwhile the customer still wants it in the same timeframe.

It does flow up to the workplace, dummy. Clearly you aren't a manager or an important person anywhere. There are laws inlace to allow or the extra time.

There is no law in place to allow a nurse to deliver medications 2 hours later to allow a project manager to deliver the project to his client a week past the clients deadline. Nice try.

Are you bigotedly pushing disabled people out of the workplace

Jesus H. Christ on a Triscuit. Do you want a nurse anesthetist who needs twice as long to figure out the combination and dose of drugs to give you during surgery, knowing that even a tiny error or slip up could mean lights out? What about a fireman who requires an extra 50% time to get to your house and hook up the hose while your home and all your possessions are going up in flames?

It's easy to virtue signal and sound woke about these issues in the abstract and theoretical setting of an anonymous forum. But when it's your life or livelihood on the line, no one wants to put it in the hands of a DEI or special accommodations hire.

You sound unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:If my disability is that I have a low IQ, can I be given easier questions on exams and still get credit for passing the same classes as my normo-IQ classmates? I know this sounds snarky but I’m actually a little curious. If someone gets extra time because they can’t finish the test on time (and the results will be compared to the results of students who didn’t take extra time), can someone else also get different questions if their disability makes it hard for them to understand the original questions?

You aren't being snarky, you being a bigoted A-hole. You don't have this disability; you don't understand it; therefore, you feel free to mock it.

Maybe someone with such a disability shouldn't be in college.

DP. This is a bigoted takeaway.

Good to know I'm bigoted after all the time I've spent in the special needs world.

I have no idea what OPs issue is, but her attitude is the largest disability here.

+10,000

+100,000

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand why some people can get more time in college.

I really hope this doesn't flow up to the workforce next. Employee A wants more time for his deadline but Employee B isn't eligible for more time, meanwhile the customer still wants it in the same timeframe.

It does flow up to the workplace, dummy. Clearly you aren't a manager or an important person anywhere. There are laws inlace to allow or the extra time.

There is no law in place to allow a nurse to deliver medications 2 hours later to allow a project manager to deliver the project to his client a week past the clients deadline. Nice try.

Are you bigotedly pushing disabled people out of the workplace

Jesus H. Christ on a Triscuit. Do you want a nurse anesthetist who needs twice as long to figure out the combination and dose of drugs to give you during surgery, knowing that even a tiny error or slip up could mean lights out? What about a fireman who requires an extra 50% time to get to your house and hook up the hose while your home and all your possessions are going up in flames?

It's easy to virtue signal and sound woke about these issues in the abstract and theoretical setting of an anonymous forum. But when it's your life or livelihood on the line, no one wants to put it in the hands of a DEI or special accommodations hire.

You sound unhinged.

They sound correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

No they don't. It's "professor".

Students below the T10 struggle with "professor." They have an easier time with "Doctor," which is why so many professors at these schools introduce themselves that way.

Right. Like if you’re a student at the #15 university in the country, you’re probably not intellectually capable of handling a 3-syllable word like “professor.” But 2-syllable “doctor” is doable—with some serious practice.

That’s what separates the schools like Berkeley, Georgetown, & Cornell from T10 schools like Yale, MIT, & Stanford. It’s all about the syllables.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, the professors will give you your desired extra time but this needs to be planned out and scheduled for you and many others. There is no administrative help for this. Professors get random letters over the first three weeks of a semester requesting a wide variety of accommodations. Implementing the broad assortment of requests is another matter. You, Op, only have your one request to worry about. Just speak up and talk with the professor a week or so prior to an exam to make sure your extra time is programmed in. The professors are happy to do it. No one is willfully trying to deny you of your accommodation. Just open up a dialogue and follow up to make sure the provisions are programmed in correctly. For example, professors can’t see your schedule, so they would need to program your start time either earlier than the regular class or end later than your regular class time. They also have to put in the accommodations of all the other 15 students as well. It can change for every test. It’s a lot of logistics added on to the creation and launching of an online test. Try to get some perspective from the side of your professor, too.

This is BS. There is a department in place for this very reason.

The departments issue the letters. Faculty are left to their own to actually put the needed measures in place.

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I have not read this entire thread. But I got accommodations for a physical disability when I was in law school and the professors had NOTHING to do with them. They didn't even know that I had them - which is important because it helps prevent discrimination. The exams admin office and disability dean were responsible for rescheduling my exams. The dean was responsible for anonymously getting my class notes. The dean asked the professors for their power points. Etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, the professors will give you your desired extra time but this needs to be planned out and scheduled for you and many others. There is no administrative help for this. Professors get random letters over the first three weeks of a semester requesting a wide variety of accommodations. Implementing the broad assortment of requests is another matter. You, Op, only have your one request to worry about. Just speak up and talk with the professor a week or so prior to an exam to make sure your extra time is programmed in. The professors are happy to do it. No one is willfully trying to deny you of your accommodation. Just open up a dialogue and follow up to make sure the provisions are programmed in correctly. For example, professors can’t see your schedule, so they would need to program your start time either earlier than the regular class or end later than your regular class time. They also have to put in the accommodations of all the other 15 students as well. It can change for every test. It’s a lot of logistics added on to the creation and launching of an online test. Try to get some perspective from the side of your professor, too.

This is BS. There is a department in place for this very reason.

No, the Disability Office is not going to code Blackboard or Respondus for the professor’s exams. The professor has to catalog every request and implement any accommodations. The Disability Office can’t help with this.

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

Op here. Thank you. I volunteer with adults who have severe disabilities way worse than mine and I am so surprised at how rude people can be to them. They get annoyed with the ones who use walkers. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well in my first post. I don't mind calling my professors "professor ". I by default call them all professor and do not like using their first name even when they say it's fine. What happened with this professor is she's correcting students during lectures when they call her professor instead of a doctor. I think it got to the point where people were doing it on purpose after she got so upset in two classes. Most students have the haven't of using professor more than doctor.

Perhaps this is a sore point for her because she is not a professor yet.

Is she an associate or assistant professor (the two lower academic ranks)?

There is a bit of vagueness with the titles Doctor & Professor. Whether it’s an Assistant, Associate, or “full” professor, they clearly get the title “Professor.” Other faculty, such as instructors & lecturers, might also get called “professor” on a less formal basis, but they don’t typically apply it to themselves.

“Doctors” have a doctoral degree, like a MD, PhD, EdD. It gets a little weird, however, because some people with doctoral degrees don’t usually get called “doctor.” Like American lawyers typically have a JD, but I’ve only known one who insisted on being called “doctor.” Pharmacists & some nurses & physical therapists these days get doctorates, but from what I can tell (correct me if I’m wrong) they aren’t often called “doctor” to avoid confusion with MDs & DOs.

Many people in academia are both a professor & a doctor; in such cases the title “professor” is typically used.

Somewhere years ago I came across an article that said this is because “professor” is the more prestigious of the 2 titles. Some might say this is a holdover from British universities, where typically the only one person per department is THE professor of that subject.

Others might point to “Gilligan’s Island,” where “the professor” had multiple PhDs, but those were trumped by his professorship. Also note that Sheldon, Leonard, & Raj on “The Big-Bang Theory” go by “doctor” as they have doctorates but are not professors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Blah blah blah is appropriate for college professors, sweetheart.

It’s your job, and your job alone, to inform professors about your needs.

It’s not preschool, it’s college.

Welcome to the real world.

Students at lower ranked colleges often call professors "teachers." Many of these kids see college as an extension of high school.

OP here. Maybe 2 year colleges. I'm unsure of what degrees are needed to teach at a community college, but I don't think they need a PhD.
She's very different from all of my other professors. Most of them are casual and say to call them by their first name. Some of my professor will sign emails as Dr. B but she's the first that came out and insisted over and over again to be called Dr.

So it’s not because you’re “disabled” that you can’t comply with the authority figure’s wishes in her own classroom, it’s just because you’re rude? What’s your “disability”? Because you just sound like a jerk; I didn’t know that was a protected class. You’re sooooo special.

Woah! While I agree that OP shouldn’t be getting bent out of shape over calling the prof dr, you are way out of line. You are talking to a college student who is likely between 18-22. They may be an adult, but they are still young and learning how the world works. I have a 19 and 21 year old and I would hope no adult treated them this way. How would you feel if someone spoke to your son or duaghter so disrespectfully? OP is asking for advice because they have a disability and their accommodations aren’t being granted. This is a legitimate concern.

Op here. Thank you. I volunteer with adults who have severe disabilities way worse than mine and I am so surprised at how rude people can be to them. They get annoyed with the ones who use walkers. Perhaps I didn't explain myself well in my first post. I don't mind calling my professors "professor ". I by default call them all professor and do not like using their first name even when they say it's fine. What happened with this professor is she's correcting students during lectures when they call her professor instead of a doctor. I think it got to the point where people were doing it on purpose after she got so upset in two classes. Most students have the haven't of using professor more than doctor.

Perhaps this is a sore point for her because she is not a professor yet.

Is she an associate or assistant professor (the two lower academic ranks)?

There is a bit of vagueness with the titles Doctor & Professor. Whether it’s an Assistant, Associate, or “full” professor, they clearly get the title “Professor.” Other faculty, such as instructors & lecturers, might also get called “professor” on a less formal basis, but they don’t typically apply it to themselves.

“Doctors” have a doctoral degree, like a MD, PhD, EdD. It gets a little weird, however, because some people with doctoral degrees don’t usually get called “doctor.” Like American lawyers typically have a JD, but I’ve only known one who insisted on being called “doctor.” Pharmacists & some nurses & physical therapists these days get doctorates, but from what I can tell (correct me if I’m wrong) they aren’t often called “doctor” to avoid confusion with MDs & DOs.

Many people in academia are both a professor & a doctor; in such cases the title “professor” is typically used.

Somewhere years ago I came across an article that said this is because “professor” is the more prestigious of the 2 titles. Some might say this is a holdover from British universities, where typically the only one person per department is THE professor of that subject.

Others might point to “Gilligan’s Island,” where “the professor” had multiple PhDs, but those were trumped by his professorship. Also note that Sheldon, Leonard, & Raj on “The Big-Bang Theory” go by “doctor” as they have doctorates but are not professors.