Russia fires missiles into Poland
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Anonymous
Whoa Zelensky slaughtered Poles? Link? Or are you referring to this specific incident? Russia invaded Ukraine and has cost the lives of thousands. And you’re blaming Ukraine? |
Anonymous
This guy:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera Once you know what he looks like, you'll see him everywhere in images from Ukraine. |
Anonymous
The more disturbing question is: Why did Ukraine and Zelensky immediately jump to accusing Russia of hitting Poland with missiles, instead of accepting Ukrainian responsibility and explaining it was an accident? Ukraine is trying to start WW3 between NATO and Russia on false pretenses. |
Anonymous
| Maybe it was an accident and it took a bit of investigating to clear the air? Ukraine is in the middle of an invasion, and they're working hard defending their nation. Things have got to be confusing. Cut them a break already. |
Anonymous
Why do you keep bringing up a non-existent draft? |
Anonymous
Oh yes, this is exactly what the title of this thread is - "maybe it was an accident, let's investigate to clear the air". Oooops no that's not what it's called it's called RRRRussia Fires Missiles into Poland! WW3!! Article 5!!! |
Anonymous
For the same reason that you've never heard anything about Donbass prior to 2014 or about the Maidan-inspired Odessa inferno. Because not all deaths are not weeping for, don't you know. |
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Anyone paying attention has known this for months. Zelenzsky is a lunatic. Glad people are finally catching on. |
Anonymous
| Only very naive people don't understand that the information about the Russia-Ukraine conflict they are allowed to see and read is very, very, very tightly controlled and scripted. |
Anonymous
Unfortunately, no, people are not catching up. This will all blow over and the public romance will reignite. |
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Here is a very nice timeline of events from Responsible Statecraft, an underrated source: _______________ ...But at 2 pm, just as it had started to become clear that Russia was an unlikely culprit, AP News published a one-sentence, one-source story that would prove remarkably consequential: “A senior U.S. intelligence official says Russian missiles crossed into NATO member Poland, killing two people.” Within minutes, prominent media personalities had already started to call on NATO to invoke Article V, which mandates that member states meet to determine a collective response whenever one of them is attacked. (It is worth noting that, contrary to popular belief, Article V does not prescribe a rapid response, and Congress would likely have to approve such a move.) At 2:10 pm, Nika Melkozerova, a Ukrainian journalist with a significant following in the West, tweeted “So.. article 5?” Melkozerova softened her comment 20 minutes later, calling on concerned parties to “wait for official information.” But Lesia Vasylenko, a member of Ukraine’s parliament, had no such compunction. The lawmaker simply tweeted out the phrase “Article 5” at 2:29 pm, adding later that Russian President Vladimir Putin was “testing the limits” with the strikes and that “reaction=appeasement.” Paul Massaro, a prominent American supporter of Ukraine and member of the U.S. Helsinki Commission, said around the same time that “Russian terrorism” had reached Poland, adding shortly after that it was “[h]ard to believe this was an accident.” Some NATO leaders seemed to follow in Massaro and Vasylenko’s footsteps. “Very concerned by Russian missiles dropping in Poland,” tweeted Slovakian Defense Minister Jaroslav Nad at 2:46 pm. “Will be in close contact with [NATO allies] to coordinate [a] response.” A “senior European diplomat” echoed Nad in a Politico piece, saying that it was “appalling to see a desperate regime attacking critical infrastructure of Ukraine and hitting allied territory with victims.” (The diplomat did hedge by noting that the author of the attack was not yet confirmed.) ..... Or at least that is what Anders Aslund of the Atlantic Council argued at around 3:30 pm. In a message aimed directly at President Joe Biden, Aslund said, “You have promised to defend ‘every inch of NATO territory.’ Are you going to bomb Russia now?” He added that Biden’s first move should be to establish a no-fly zone in Ukraine before “clean[ing] out the Russian Black Sea fleet.” At the same time, Sergej Sumlenny, a prominent European policy expert, implied in a viral tweet that the attack was an intentional extension of Russia’s assault on Ukrainian infrastructure. Shortly after, Mykhailo Podolyak, one of the top advisors to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, declared that the strikes were “not an accident, but a deliberately planned ‘hello’ from [Russia], disguised as a ‘mistake.’” Russia denied the claim, saying that “[n]o strikes on targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border were made by Russian means of destruction.” But, somewhat understandably for many of Ukraine’s supporters, Russia’s word no longer holds much purchase. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba responded at 4:35 pm that Moscow “promotes a conspiracy theory that it was allegedly a missile of Ukrainian air defense” that hit Poland. “No one should buy Russian propaganda or amplify its messages,” Kuleba added. Around the same time, Zelensky tweeted that the “Russian attack on collective security in the Euro-Atlantic is a significant escalation” of the conflict. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/16/how-a-lightly-sourced-ap-story-almost-set-of-world-war-iii/ |
Anonymous
Because they wanted to kill a couple random polish farmers of course! What else could it possibly be? |