Serious question: Why are people afraid to admit privilege?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

You need to lay off the Fox News and maybe get some cbt to address your catastrophic thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because of the expectation that you will work to make things more equal.

If you are a privileged person, you will give up some privileges.

Bingo. No one is willing to do what needs to be done for this to happen. So no one wants to admit they are "over" privileged or that their children are and that it's not fair.


Here's our situation. We live in a 2 million house in a close in neighborhood to NYC. My husband and I make over 750k between us. Our children go to great public schools but we could easily send them to private if we wanted. They travel the world at least 4 times a year and they are growing up with private ski lessons, tennis lessons, swim lessons, and on and on. They're all under 10 and each have over 200k in college savings already. No we're not yachting around in the Mediterranean and my daughter can't grow up to be a professional equestrian. But I'm sure most people would consider them "over" privileged and would love to punish them in some way for getting things they lack.

I'd be really curious to hear your opinion about the US tax scale. Would you be willing to revert to the 1950s scale? Why or why not? How do you feel about inheritance taxes? Should your children be able to remain INCREDIBLY privileged (how do you not realize that? SMH), and their grandchildren, too, simply because you and your husband started out on third base?

Can we move on from this argument, AOC?

https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Instead of bean-counting who is privileged in what way, our society should be expending those resources making sure that there is equality of opportunity, not of outcome. Scales, affirmative action, etc., are all attempts to create equality of outcome in an unjust system. Instead, we need to make sure all children regardless of socioeconomic or racial makeup have access to childcare, healthcare, and excellent schools.

The frustrating thing is we have good evidence of what works to break the cycle of intergenerational poverty, crime, and incarceration. Providing quality childcare and pre-K along with in-home services (teaching the parent(s) basically) is proven to raise life outcomes, reduce crime, reduce spending on social services, and carries on to future generations.

Where have you been? These programs only provide modest gains for about a year or two. These programs have not been proven to be successful at all long term.

Yup. All research basically shows this. Doesn't stop politicians from funding these programs as it makes people think that they're doing something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

DP Maybe they don't want to be hated for their privileges or seem like they are bragging?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

I encourage you to stop by any local NICU and observe addicted babies on NAS scores for an hour of comedy and light laughter, LOL jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

I encourage you to stop by any local NICU and observe addicted babies on NAS scores for an hour of comedy and light laughter, LOL jerk.

You need help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

I encourage you to stop by any local NICU and observe addicted babies on NAS scores for an hour of comedy and light laughter, LOL jerk.

were these the children that PP was talking about in her post? I think not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Because they don't want their kids to just have a good life, they want their kids to have it all. They want everything for their kids and don't care if that means other kids get little of nothing.

DP Most people aren't thinking about other kids at all. It isn't so black and white. They are thinking of helping their kids and expect other people to worry about their own kids. Not exactly right but, it isn't that they are wishing evil on other kids. Maybe indifference which isn't great as well but, life is busy and most people only have time for their own family.

[Anonymous]

The same reason that all these MoCo parents are freaking about the boundary study. The possibility that their kid could get even a tiny bit less than they have now, or that they would have to work a tiny bit harder is untenable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Because everyone is FOR diversity and access until it means restricting their OWN access!

Case in point....ask any white college kid who is protesting and marching alongside as an "ally" for under-respresented groups if he/she would just go ahead and step aside and give his/her slot to a student who is equally deserving in merit. You know...b/c of diversity.

They want OTHERS to give up their slots. But do not want to give up THEIR OWN!

Exactly. And this is why Biden is running for president instead of stepping aside and raising money to help fund the Kamala Harris or the Cory Booker campaign--both of whom are just as qualified and capable as he is in serving as president and working to enact policy that advances diversity and opportunity. But similar to most white people, he's all for promoting diversity, but he won't give up his own chair at the table to do it!

Why in the name of god, should Biden be expected to step aside and give up his own chair for someone else?

Because he is privileged and therefore needs to move to the back of the line. Merit be damned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

Seriously. Approaching the whole idea of college as if it's the Battle of the Somme is both ludicrous and unrealistic.

Do you really think that because your kid goes to UVA rather than Yale he'll have "limited job prospects" and be "unable to move forward"? And that his god-given spot is being "stolen" by some kid who had the SHEER AUDACITY to grow up in a neighborhood with cracked sidewalks?

It would be laughable if it weren't so sad for the kids involved. PP: you are crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

I encourage you to stop by any local NICU and observe addicted babies on NAS scores for an hour of comedy and light laughter, LOL jerk.

Whaaat TF are you on today, lady?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

Seriously. Approaching the whole idea of college as if it's the Battle of the Somme is both ludicrous and unrealistic.

Do you really think that because your kid goes to UVA rather than Yale he'll have "limited job prospects" and be "unable to move forward"? And that his god-given spot is being "stolen" by some kid who had the SHEER AUDACITY to grow up in a neighborhood with cracked sidewalks?

It would be laughable if it weren't so sad for the kids involved. PP: you are crazy.

If UVA vs Yale doesn’t matter why must dumb kids go to Yale then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked by how many people are upset of the SAT adversity score. They do not want to admit the privileges that their children having growing up in a nice school district, safe school, etc. These are all great things! Everyone wants these things for their kids but sadly, many kids do not have access to these resources. Why are people so afraid to own that privilege and be proud of it while also working toward the same future for other kids? What are you afraid of? Honestly if you kid doesn't get into HPY and goes to say, UVA- what do you think will happen? Do you really think their future is lost? Are you afraid they will end up on the streets?

Seriously please help me understand...

Next time you drive past a public elementary school bus pick up waiting area in an upscale suburb, with a dozen kids all looking cute waiting for their bus, make a mental note.

Consider this.

You are seeing 12-15 children. On average, 1-3 of them will get into their flagship state university; maybe another one will get into another selective college. One of them is gifted with his/her hands, and will do great as an exclusive hair dresser or construction company owner. One of them is a gifted salesperson and will do well in real estate or some other sales job. One out of 200 will get into an Ivy; that is lots of bus stops. With the new SAT policy, it may not be any of the kids from the leafy suburb, but instead a kid from a cracked sidewalk central 10 miles away.

That leaves half of those children as headed to second-tier colleges, community college, unable to move forward. Their job prospects will be limited. They will not be able to achieve anywhere close to their parents' standard of living.

Half.

2-3 will crack under pressure, more often from the less successful half, but sometimes from the more successful, and succumb to addition. Alcohol, opioids, meth - you pick.

Now ask yourself why you are surprised at the amount of anxiety parents are feeling at any postulate that further diminishes their child's chances of doing well. They are right to feel anxious. These are ruthless times for the families with young children.

Ruthless, I tell you. Lol

Seriously. Approaching the whole idea of college as if it's the Battle of the Somme is both ludicrous and unrealistic.

Do you really think that because your kid goes to UVA rather than Yale he'll have "limited job prospects" and be "unable to move forward"? And that his god-given spot is being "stolen" by some kid who had the SHEER AUDACITY to grow up in a neighborhood with cracked sidewalks?

It would be laughable if it weren't so sad for the kids involved. PP: you are crazy.

If UVA vs Yale doesn’t matter why must dumb kids go to Yale then?

This isn't about admitting "dumb" kids at Yale. Jeez.