Immigration Bill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

+1,000

So much common sense. I really do not understand why liberals are against limiting immigration and illegal immigration.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Frisco TX and Ashburn VA, have turned into Bangalore with family immigration.

And their economies are thriving! Winning!

And they would have been thriving even if Infosys did not hire cheap workers, but they would have been thiving with local US citizens. Just like it worked in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's before the plague of H1B/H4/F1/OPT/L1 affected the IT world in US economy.

win win for eveyone. US gets to have more low skilled workers working. India gets to keep their college graduates to build their own economy.

How many underemployed or unemployed people in DC, Baltimore, Phila that should be doing that work? USA HB is a real racket for India.
Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;
.

Don't be silly. Mexico is paying for the wall and Trump promised us that. And no one can tell me otherwise, because I believe the president.

[Anonymous]

Well according to the NYT the Red Cross has been forced to pull out of areas in Afghanistan. The land locked country that did in the USSR and where we left billions of stuff.

Within the week I read we have a drone station in land locked Niger. Why not move the drones and some of the troops in Afghanistan to the border and for interior MS 13 removal?

I'm sick of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

WAPO calls this "hard-line immigration measures" In MSM world ending Chain Migration and mandating eVerify is HARDLINE??? what? that is absurd. Main Stream Media are completely run by democrats, they are being absurd now. This is why we are so polarized. common sense progress is labeled without any real debate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;
.

Don't be silly. Mexico is paying for the wall and Trump promised us that. And no one can tell me otherwise, because I believe the president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

+1,000

So much common sense. I really do not understand why liberals are against limiting immigration and illegal immigration.

Exactly.

Ohhhhh....so it's not just illegal immigration?? So you do want to LIMIT LEGAL IMMIGRATION too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

WAPO calls this "hard-line immigration measures" In MSM world ending Chain Migration and mandating eVerify is HARDLINE??? what? that is absurd. Main Stream Media are completely run by democrats, they are being absurd now. This is why we are so polarized. common sense progress is labeled without any real debate.

Agree. There is no justifiable reason to block E-verify. None.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

+1,000

So much common sense. I really do not understand why liberals are against limiting immigration and illegal immigration.

Exactly.

Ohhhhh....so it's not just illegal immigration?? So you do want to LIMIT LEGAL IMMIGRATION too?

Sure. What's wrong with that? Australia and Canada have a point-based system that helps determine if an immigrant will be a net positive for American society. That is what Trump is proposing, allowing for exemptions for assylum-seekers. The plan makes complete sense to me, as it would any reasonable American not blinded by harmful liberal ideology. And let's not forget - this is the main reason Trump won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

+1,000

So much common sense. I really do not understand why liberals are against limiting immigration and illegal immigration.

Exactly.

Ohhhhh....so it's not just illegal immigration?? So you do want to LIMIT LEGAL IMMIGRATION too?

Yes absolutely. The bush 1990 immigration law was completely turned up side down from high skilled workers to desperate and cheap temporary workers


Way overdue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

+1,000

So much common sense. I really do not understand why liberals are against limiting immigration and illegal immigration.

Exactly.

Ohhhhh....so it's not just illegal immigration?? So you do want to LIMIT LEGAL IMMIGRATION too?

Yes absolutely. The bush 1990 immigration law was completely turned up side down from high skilled workers to desperate and cheap temporary workers


Way overdue

Actually, I believe the "open immigration" attitude started more than 50 years ago, around 1965. That was when LBJ was president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jim Acosta was just schooled by Steven Miller.

Just the opposite. Steven Miller could barely disguise his racist views. And his claim that because one has to speak English to naturalize, immigrants seeking green cards should have to speak English too a was bullshit argument, and he knows it. Immigrants learn English here. "Ahistorical" my ass. Afactual is more like it. Miller is a faux intellectual mean-spirited jerk. Trump only hires the best people !

You don't have to speak English to naturalize. You can have a translator.

False

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

I work at USCIS. The bolded is completely unrealistic. Like hilariously so. Every dollar currently goes towards funding USCIS. There is just no way to raise that much money from that population.

Some other points. Gang members receive no immigration benefits. If the government finds out someone has developed even peripheral ties to someone in a gang (like if your uncle joins a gang) they will reevaluate your status.

How will you end overstays? 10k ice agents isn't enough. Who is paying for the extra gov employees? What is an appropriate level of refugees? How did you arrive at that number?

Moving from family based to merit based immigration is a philosophical question so I think that is a legitimate conversation to have but some of the rest of this is just stupid talking points designed to make it look like they're doing 'common sense' stuff when in reality its just gobbledy gook

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

New Update

None of this is radical as mainstream media claims. These are common sense proposals.

Border Security:
-- Complete construction of the southern border wall, to be paid for in part by allowing the Department of Homeland Security to raise fees from the processing of immigration-benefit applications;
-- Prompt removal of minors, including unaccompanied alien children, and relatives crossing the border illegally.
-- Stricter standards for people who claim asylum;
-- Expand the expedited removal process, including hiring an additional 370 Immigration Judges and 1,000 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement attorneys;

Interior Enforcement:
-- Stop sanctuary cities by making them ineligible for certain federal grants;
-- Hire an additional 10,000 ICE officers and 300 Federal prosecutors to handle immigration cases and boost law enforcement;
-- End visa overstays;
-- End catch-and-release;
-- Prevent gang members from receiving immigration benefits.
-- Protect U.S. workers by requiring E-Verify and strengthening laws to stop employment discrimination against U.S. workers.

Merit-Based Reforms:
-- End chain migration by limiting family-based green cards to spouses and minor children of immigrants who are here legally;
-- Establish a point-based system for awarding green cards that protects U.S. workers and taxpayers, encourages assimilation, and ensures the financial self-sufficiency of newcomers;
-- Eliminate the ‘Diversity Visa’ lottery that awards 50,000 green cards at random to foreign nationals, many of whom have absolutely no ties to the United States, no special skills, and limited education;
-- Set the number of refugees at an ‘appropriate level’.

I work at USCIS. The bolded is completely unrealistic. Like hilariously so. Every dollar currently goes towards funding USCIS. There is just no way to raise that much money from that population.

Some other points. Gang members receive no immigration benefits. If the government finds out someone has developed even peripheral ties to someone in a gang (like if your uncle joins a gang) they will reevaluate your status.

How will you end overstays? 10k ice agents isn't enough. Who is paying for the extra gov employees? What is an appropriate level of refugees? How did you arrive at that number?

Moving from family based to merit based immigration is a philosophical question so I think that is a legitimate conversation to have but some of the rest of this is just stupid talking points designed to make it look like they're doing 'common sense' stuff when in reality its just gobbledy gook

What is wrong with mandated everify?