H1B application fees now cost $100k

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Anonymous wrote:Did you know that many fed employees are being rehired after they were DOGEd? What a cartoon show this country is. How much did it cost the tax payers?

So MAGA aspirations got bumfuxed again? DOGE-Y Style?

Bad doggy! Dodgy doggy!!

Vought is going to fire 90% of the government during the shutdown.

[Anonymous]

whats up with the crazy MAGA MAGA MAGA taco people, wrong thread bruh

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Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

The point you make so well - H1B workers are willing.

They are resilient enough to do well with lower wages, they are smart enough to earn new credentials and skills, they are capable enough to live in US, speak the language, and paying expenses and taxes in dollars, they are super intelligent enough to learn new technologies while American students are falling behind in Math every single year.

Also, with just 30% of white men going to college, where do you think your future scientists, engineers, doctors are going to come from? LOL. Only thing you can do well MAGA is get your people on OnlyFans.

As for your statement "...we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"..." - Well, well, well - this seems to be a socialist, anti-fascist statement. Awww....do you want the federal govt back now? You want socialism? Govt subsidies? Medicare, medicaid, social security, food stamps, vaccines and Tylenol?

American workers are being gang-raped by GOP billionaires and CEOs. And MAGA is just their uneducated spot boy in the room where this porn is being made. Carry on.

You are responding to me but you think I'm MAGA? What's wrong with you? Can't you read the different nuances and tones from all the participants of the thread? It's not MAGA for this. Plenty of people are for this across the political spectrum.

PS- I love democratic socialism! Universal health care? UBI? Yes please! But the flip side is people will feel even more anti-immigration if we do all this because they don't want "them" to benefit from "handouts". I hope you can learn more about the spectrum of sentiment here in the US and on this very thread.

No, you don't love democratic socialism. There is no spectrum of political sentiment in the US. People voted one way because of hatred and entitlement - and since MAGA deplorable are ill-bred, ill-educated asswipes - they did not know that they themselves would be negatively impacted.

Now TACO policies have shoved a red hot poker up the MAGA butt...and everyone is backtracking.

?? I didn't vote for Trump??

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Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

The point you make so well - H1B workers are willing.

They are resilient enough to do well with lower wages, they are smart enough to earn new credentials and skills, they are capable enough to live in US, speak the language, and paying expenses and taxes in dollars, they are super intelligent enough to learn new technologies while American students are falling behind in Math every single year.

Also, with just 30% of white men going to college, where do you think your future scientists, engineers, doctors are going to come from? LOL. Only thing you can do well MAGA is get your people on OnlyFans.

As for your statement "...we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"..." - Well, well, well - this seems to be a socialist, anti-fascist statement. Awww....do you want the federal govt back now? You want socialism? Govt subsidies? Medicare, medicaid, social security, food stamps, vaccines and Tylenol?

American workers are being gang-raped by GOP billionaires and CEOs. And MAGA is just their uneducated spot boy in the room where this porn is being made. Carry on.

You are responding to me but you think I'm MAGA? What's wrong with you? Can't you read the different nuances and tones from all the participants of the thread? It's not MAGA for this. Plenty of people are for this across the political spectrum.

PS- I love democratic socialism! Universal health care? UBI? Yes please! But the flip side is people will feel even more anti-immigration if we do all this because they don't want "them" to benefit from "handouts". I hope you can learn more about the spectrum of sentiment here in the US and on this very thread.

No, you don't love democratic socialism. There is no spectrum of political sentiment in the US. People voted one way because of hatred and entitlement - and since MAGA deplorable are ill-bred, ill-educated asswipes - they did not know that they themselves would be negatively impacted.

Now TACO policies have shoved a red hot poker up the MAGA butt...and everyone is backtracking.

?? I didn't vote for Trump??

^^ There's an unhinged person on here who only thinks that MAGA support reforming the H1B

[Anonymous]

Today's Deeper Dive: The SCOTUS Case That Could Redefine U.S. Tech Immigration Policy

1. SCOTUS is weighing whether to hear an appeal in Save USA Jobs v. DHS—a case challenging work permits (H4-EAD) for the spouses of H-1B visa holders. The outcome could shake U.S. tech and immigration policy to its core.

2. The rule in question dates back to 2015, when Obama’s DHS let certain H-4 visa spouses get work permits. The eligibility: if the H-1B worker had a pending I-140 or PERM (Green Card steps) for a year+, or was stuck in the country caps backlog.

3. Why it mattered: The 2000 American Competitiveness Act (AC21) let H-1Bs extend visas indefinitely if a Green Card was pending. Combined with the H4-EAD rule, “temporary” visas became anything but temporary—especially for Indian tech workers in the U.S. The Green Card backlog contains 1.3 million Indians and their spouses/dependents as of today as well.

4. Context: AC21 was bipartisan, pushed by Republicans in the Senate and backed by Big Tech players like Sun Microsystems + Microsoft. Some Democrats opposed it, but there weren't enough of them to stop it. It also carved out a massive exemption: universities, nonprofits, and gov labs aren’t even subject to the H-1B cap.

5. Fast forward → Today:

~400k H-4 visas in effect

~250k of them have work permits

Of the 750k H-1Bs, 75% are held by Indians.
Net result: H-1B + H-4 effectively allow families to settle here permanently, riding the Green Card queue.

6. Reminder: EB (employment-based) Green Cards also let spouses + kids tag along. That’s outside AC21—but combined, these laws mean the whole family unit can stay and work indefinitely.

7. Enter the lawsuit. Save USA Jobs sued in 2015 to block H4-EAD. The Trump DOJ had to defend DHS—because by settled law, DOJ defends agencies on rule-making. They tried to kill H4-EAD by new rule, but Big Tech lobbying + bureaucracy stalled it.

8. Trump OMB deprioritized the rollback, assuming Save USA Jobs would win in court. But when the District Court rejected the challenge, the rule stood. The current Trump admin never circled back—political reality + tech donor pressure kept it shelved.

9. Now, the case is back at the gates of SCOTUS. If the Court agrees to hear it and rules that H4-EAD was illegal agency rule-making, it sets precedent to target other controversial programs—like OPT and OPT-STEM—for lawsuits.

10. Bottom line: This isn’t just about H-4 spouses. It’s about whether the courts will finally check decades of policy drift that turned “temporary” guest worker visas into a back-door permanent pipeline, heavily tilted toward one country. 63% of the current Green Card backlog is for Indians - how does this make any sense.

🔥 Tech workers, policymakers, and founders need to watch this one closely. It could reshape the labor market—and immigration law—for a generation.

[Anonymous]

This is the de facto policy of most Indian hiring managers, whether they say it out loud or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it that the same people who think you can’t raise taxes on billionaires because billionaires will just move fail to see that if you increase the price of labor, the billionaires move their labor?

Welcome to multinationals building abroad.

Well…the billionaire would have to renounce their citizenship because the US taxes you no matter where you live. Some may do that, but it’s a massive step.

Folks…even if the H1 was free, it’s always been much cheaper to keep labor in their own country and pay significantly lower wages. What this does is discourages people here for college to take their skills back home because they can’t get a job on graduation.

For doctors…something is wrong with our supply chain. All the med schools are 100% filled with mainly Americans yet I guess we don’t have enough doctors….or is it we don’t have enough doctors in certain specialties and too many in others?

According to my research, foreign physicians fill the following gaps:

1) Primary care shortages: Foreign physicians are 5-9 times more likely than U.S. graduates to enter primary care, addressing the projected deficit of over 55,000 primary care doctors by 2033, which U.S. citizens often avoid due to lower pay and demanding workloads.

2) Rural and underserved community gaps: Foreign doctors s are more inclined to practice in rural or Health Professional Shortage Areas (HPSAs), where over 20 million Americans live with limited access; U.S. doctors typically prefer urban settings.

3) Unfilled residency slots in critical specialties: International medical graduates fill over 6,600 residency positions annually (highest on record in 2025), particularly in internal medicine and hospital-based roles like inpatient care and emergency rooms, where U.S. applicants do not match all available spots.



The one main thing I see is …foreign doctors coming for residency here will be much younger than US trained doctors. Bcz almost in majority of other countries they go to med school straight after their high school . So when they come for residency here they will be 23 or 24 year old but for a US citizen that when they almost enter the med school after pre med.

I don’t get it that if USA accepts doctors from all over the world who goes to med school straight after high school, why not change the system in USA so that more US born citizens will go to med school with less debt. So you can have more doctors.

When you say American doctors don’t want to serve in rural area , think of it like ….. for a foreign trained doctor if he can get into residency at age of 23 and as per J1 requirements they have to serve rural area for 3 years or else they have to go back to their home country . So if they enter @ 23 for residency and be an IM specialist by 26 and serving under J1 for 3 years by 29 they will be ready to jump to metro areas with big money

But for US born , they enter med school at 22-23 years old bcz they have to complete Pre med. And in USA cost of med school is much more than for many of these foreign trained doctors from Say countries like India. In India they enter med school at age of 17 immediately after high school and by 22 they finish med school and come to USA for residency

No body in USA addresses this main point and keep saying doctors shortage in USA

I’m sure more students will go to med school if there is no pre med and /or the cost is less. In a country like India the med school might cost < 10 K .

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The one main thing I see is …foreign doctors coming for residency here will be much younger than US trained doctors. Bcz almost in majority of other countries they go to med school straight after their high school . So when they come for residency here they will be 23 or 24 year old but for a US citizen that when they almost enter the med school after pre med.

I don’t get it that if USA accepts doctors from all over the world who goes to med school straight after high school, why not change the system in USA so that more US born citizens will go to med school with less debt. So you can have more doctors.

When you say American doctors don’t want to serve in rural area , think of it like ….. for a foreign trained doctor if he can get into residency at age of 23 and as per J1 requirements they have to serve rural area for 3 years or else they have to go back to their home country . So if they enter @ 23 for residency and be an IM specialist by 26 and serving under J1 for 3 years by 29 they will be ready to jump to metro areas with big money

But for US born , they enter med school at 22-23 years old bcz they have to complete Pre med. And in USA cost of med school is much more than for many of these foreign trained doctors from Say countries like India. In India they enter med school at age of 17 immediately after high school and by 22 they finish med school and come to USA for residency

No body in USA addresses this main point and keep saying doctors shortage in USA

I’m sure more students will go to med school if there is no pre med and /or the cost is less. In a country like India the med school might cost < 10 K .

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Anonymous wrote:The one main thing I see is …foreign doctors coming for residency here will be much younger than US trained doctors. Bcz almost in majority of other countries they go to med school straight after their high school . So when they come for residency here they will be 23 or 24 year old but for a US citizen that when they almost enter the med school after pre med.

I don’t get it that if USA accepts doctors from all over the world who goes to med school straight after high school, why not change the system in USA so that more US born citizens will go to med school with less debt. So you can have more doctors.

When you say American doctors don’t want to serve in rural area , think of it like ….. for a foreign trained doctor if he can get into residency at age of 23 and as per J1 requirements they have to serve rural area for 3 years or else they have to go back to their home country . So if they enter @ 23 for residency and be an IM specialist by 26 and serving under J1 for 3 years by 29 they will be ready to jump to metro areas with big money

But for US born , they enter med school at 22-23 years old bcz they have to complete Pre med. And in USA cost of med school is much more than for many of these foreign trained doctors from Say countries like India. In India they enter med school at age of 17 immediately after high school and by 22 they finish med school and come to USA for residency

No body in USA addresses this main point and keep saying doctors shortage in USA

I’m sure more students will go to med school if there is no pre med and /or the cost is less. In a country like India the med school might cost < 10 K .

Medical school is 7 years, that starts with 2 years of math and science. So it’s like an accelerated pre-med before medical training

The cost of attending college in the US is the fault of the system here, not there

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Anonymous wrote:It’s terrible. If you were born American, with all the privileges that comes with that lottery win, and you STILL can’t compete with people who grew up in war zones, or with food/water/medicine shortages, and who aced their SATs/MCATs/GREs in a SECOND, non-native language, what does that say about you?!
We shouldn’t artificially be propping up mediocrity, while brilliant foreigners go to the rest of the developed world and bring their skills and intellect elsewhere.

You’re so naive. A ton of H1B visa candidates grew up highly privileged and in the wealthiest sectors of their societies, and they often fake their skills, resume, and credentials. They are not more talented, in fact they are often very incompetent. They are just cheap labor.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s terrible. If you were born American, with all the privileges that comes with that lottery win, and you STILL can’t compete with people who grew up in war zones, or with food/water/medicine shortages, and who aced their SATs/MCATs/GREs in a SECOND, non-native language, what does that say about you?!
We shouldn’t artificially be propping up mediocrity, while brilliant foreigners go to the rest of the developed world and bring their skills and intellect elsewhere.

You’re so naive. A ton of H1B visa candidates grew up highly privileged and in the wealthiest sectors of their societies, and they often fake their skills, resume, and credentials. They are not more talented, in fact they are often very incompetent. They are just cheap labor.

I came to this country on an H1-b visa. I am not and have never been highly privileged. I also didn’t fake my credentials or skills, but was very knowledgeable about the tech niche that I was in. I was more talented than my American co-workers, and I received a much lower salary.
I was surprised that American life was not better, but then I had to get by on a small salary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can Trump now just please just get rid of the foreign telemarketers and customer care staff, with their fake anglo names mismatched with thick native accents?

I’m shocked they haven’t started feeding their responses through AI to provide an American accent yet.

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I work as a government for an federal agency like FDIC, and there are so many H1-B visa workers from India on-site in the IT and software there. The number of contractors who are H1-B must be over 75%. I was always under the impression that you must be either a US Citizen or a green card holder to be contractors for the federal government. I guess I was wrong because these government contractors have found a loop hole. They are paying these people dirt cheap while charging the federal government over $300/hr.

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Anonymous wrote:I work as a government for an federal agency like FDIC, and there are so many H1-B visa workers from India on-site in the IT and software there. The number of contractors who are H1-B must be over 75%. I was always under the impression that you must be either a US Citizen or a green card holder to be contractors for the federal government. I guess I was wrong because these government contractors have found a loop hole. They are paying these people dirt cheap while charging the federal government over $300/hr.

and Democrats still want to expand H1B and OPT, on the backs of US workers. Has any Democrat anywhere proposed any limitation on Immigration?

why does anyone question the complete lack of support for the Democratic party? as Bernie says, Democrats abandoned the US worker, so the US working class has abandoned the Democratic party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work as a government for an federal agency like FDIC, and there are so many H1-B visa workers from India on-site in the IT and software there. The number of contractors who are H1-B must be over 75%. I was always under the impression that you must be either a US Citizen or a green card holder to be contractors for the federal government. I guess I was wrong because these government contractors have found a loop hole. They are paying these people dirt cheap while charging the federal government over $300/hr.

Accenture and Deloitte sponsor H1B.