US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Now let’s remove the stinking shit like ALDC and make admissions truly aseptic!


Good luck with that, as of today those categories are a much bigger hook. Big win for lacrosse.
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Anonymous wrote:Will the race box be taken off of the common app ??!?!??!!


No, of course not. They still are required to keep data to make sure they are not discriminating and to provide DOE demographic data. The case did NOT strike down Affirmative Action. People using that line a) don't know what affirmative action actually is, and b) didn't read the decision.
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Anonymous wrote:President Obama issued a statement that supports the decision in a subtle manner.

First Lady Obama also issued a statement that acknowledges the decision and recognizes that some must work harder.

Neither expressed any type of outrage or anger or even strong disappointment at the decision.


Links? This is great if true!
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Anonymous wrote:Agree that this helps poor, rural whites. SC decision deplored admitting affluent blacks as a way to increase black enrollment. Kids of all races attending great schools in large MSAs are f*cked.


Where does everyone think this enormous pool of financial aid for poor rural and first gen students is coming from? Sure the Ivys and a few other select schools can afford it, but the majority of colleges need tuition paying students. I guess the most valuable students will shift from full pay URMs to full pay rural and first gen


Except that there aren't that many full pay rural or full pay first gen. I was one (25 years ago) but I've never known anybody else who was. Now that I think about it at my HYPS I'm not sure I knew anyone else who was first gen and maybe one person who was rural.
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Nothing will change. Listen to a podcast from a few mos back w/ UC Berkeley admissions head who said that they look at other factors that imply race.
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I co-sign this and I’m black.

I hate race-based affirmative action for “diversity” reasons and completely agree with Justice Thomas on how stigmatizing it is for black students at elite schools. It bothers me to no end how every one (especially on DCUM) readily dismisses conservative black voices as if we are some imaginary creatures that cannot possibly diverge from liberal stereotypes. (I’m looking at you, Biden, with your “you’re not black if you don’t vote for me” crap.)

News flash: pull up a Pew poll, even among African Americans, a majority did NOT support race-based admissions advantages for college.

I did not vote for Trump but I considered it. And I am grateful for his appointments to the Supreme Court because they’ve restored sanity to the interpretation of the Constitution.


Black kids at good colleges will now get the credit and respect they deserve.



The same respect that a Black President gets!

The same respect that a Black person trying to buy or sell a house gets!

The same respect that a Black person driving a car or walking down the street gets!





I’m a black person who’s gotten respect doing all of these things! Thanks!


No self-respecting Black person refers to themselves as black.
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Anonymous wrote:Will the race box be taken off of the common app ??!?!??!!


No, of course not. They still are required to keep data to make sure they are not discriminating and to provide DOE demographic data. The case did NOT strike down Affirmative Action. People using that line a) don't know what affirmative action actually is, and b) didn't read the decision.


It’s long and you probably didn’t either 😂
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand some of you. Are you upset that Supreme Court overturned a racist law?



This co-opting of the term "racist" is disingenuous. Did you read SC Justice Brown's dissent? There are reasonable disagreements with affirmative action (as well as reasonable justifications for it), but higher education is an important tool in addressing systemic racism in our society that disproportionately affects Black families given the history of slavery, Jim Crow laws and their residual effects in so many ways in present society (disproportionate policing and sentencing for similar crimes is just one example), but also impacts other URMs. Systemic racism will be harder to address without the types of affirmative action policies colleges developed.


So you think it was fair that Brown's kids would have gotten a bump based on race while a white or asian janitor's kid would be dinged for their race?


The janitor's would have gotten a bigger bump based on their income status. But also no matter how rich Brown's kids are--they are still more likely to be stopped by the police, monitored in every store they go into, etc. Racism affects every day life for Black people in this country in a very dramatic way--no matter how rich they are.


Who the @#^&$# is Brown?

SC Justice Ketanji Brown who wrote the dissenting opinion on the case we are discussing.

Colorblind-struck much?


Her last name is Jackson….


Her second to last name is Brown.


Her first name is Ketanji.

Any problem with that???????

Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.
Anonymous
You only have to talk to a liberal for about five minutes before they inevitably make a vehemently racist anti-asian statement. But they are too stupid to realize if you replaced "asian" with "black" they would be calling for the person's head on a platter. Stupid liberals lol
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My impression is that this decision means:

Race cannot be an objective factor in the college admissions process, but it can be a subjective factor.
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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will change. Listen to a podcast from a few mos back w/ UC Berkeley admissions head who said that they look at other factors that imply race.


The SCOTUS decision today literally said they are no longer allowed to do that. lol
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- Asian.


I co-sign this and I’m black.

I hate race-based affirmative action for “diversity” reasons and completely agree with Justice Thomas on how stigmatizing it is for black students at elite schools. It bothers me to no end how every one (especially on DCUM) readily dismisses conservative black voices as if we are some imaginary creatures that cannot possibly diverge from liberal stereotypes. (I’m looking at you, Biden, with your “you’re not black if you don’t vote for me” crap.)

News flash: pull up a Pew poll, even among African Americans, a majority did NOT support race-based admissions advantages for college.

I did not vote for Trump but I considered it. And I am grateful for his appointments to the Supreme Court because they’ve restored sanity to the interpretation of the Constitution.


Black kids at good colleges will now get the credit and respect they deserve.



Sadly, I don't think this is true... they will still be treated differently both in school and afterwards in the job market. AA was not the root of this practice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Too many applicants were taking advantage of affirmative action, eg., claiming to be 1/8 Hispanic despite being from a wealthy white family (just bc a great-grandmother came from Spain).


Don't forget the UMC black kid whose parents recently got off the boat from Africa and work at high paying jobs. In what world, does that kid deserve affirmative action?
Anonymous
Of course, aspects of today's US Supreme Court decision will be tested by legal challenges.
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Anonymous wrote:
Yeah!

- Asian.


I co-sign this and I’m black.

I hate race-based affirmative action for “diversity” reasons and completely agree with Justice Thomas on how stigmatizing it is for black students at elite schools. It bothers me to no end how every one (especially on DCUM) readily dismisses conservative black voices as if we are some imaginary creatures that cannot possibly diverge from liberal stereotypes. (I’m looking at you, Biden, with your “you’re not black if you don’t vote for me” crap.)

News flash: pull up a Pew poll, even among African Americans, a majority did NOT support race-based admissions advantages for college.

I did not vote for Trump but I considered it. And I am grateful for his appointments to the Supreme Court because they’ve restored sanity to the interpretation of the Constitution.


Black kids at good colleges will now get the credit and respect they deserve.



The same respect that a Black President gets!

The same respect that a Black person trying to buy or sell a house gets!

The same respect that a Black person driving a car or walking down the street gets!





I’m a black person who’s gotten respect doing all of these things! Thanks!


No self-respecting Black person refers to themselves as black.


Get over yourself. I don’t capitalize it because I’m not constantly trying to follow whatever late-breaking fad has been thought up to signal your membership in the liberal tribe. I also, gasp, don’t use BIPOC!
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