Half of British women reach age 30 without having a child

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It does seem like maybe you should have done something differently because you seem very hostile and disconnected with reality.

Traveling in your 20s does not lead to mental illness.
Having multiple relationships before marriage improves relationship/communication skills.
By marrying later as a fully-matured adult you know yourself better and know what would be your ideal partner.
Being financial secure and established in your career makes parenting less stressful.
By puberty, women have already lost 70% of eggs.
You only ovulate 1 egg a cycle. Having 10k vs 100k in reserve isn’t a meaningful difference.

Of course, some people may prefer to marry earlier, but there are certainly many advantages to waiting.

You believe college credentialed 22 or 23 year olds who've been dating each other for a few years are no different than 35 year olds who've been stressed in careers, hooking up with various people, boozing, birth control, relationship baggage, random sexual encounters, potential for STDs, abortion, Plan B, and birth control pill use for 12 additional years are no different mentally and physically? The former are far purer, the latter are almost always jaded messes. And the latter will likely need IVF to get pregnant, if they can at all. NYTimes.com recently featured a viral story on early and mid 30s female medical doctors who discovered they were practically or literally infertile.

A Medical Career, at a Cost: Infertility
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/health/women-doctors-infertility.html

In addition, if you even can, how many children can you realistically have at 35? Likely just one or two, if you're lucky. And you've squandered 10 plus years of being able to see your grandchildren grow, which is one of life's greatest joys. God doesn't give you an extra 10 to 15 years of life because you waited until you were a few more rungs up the corporate ladder.

Dude not everyone wants a litter of children what is wrong with you?

You are not truly a mother until you have as many children as your neighborhood's feral cat and your uterus, or whatever is left of it, is reaching your knees.

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Oooooo the anti-brunch guy is back!!! I missed you and your rants against women going to brunch!!!

Is it really a dude? Gross.

I assumed it was a cranky old religious hag.

I'm not a "dude" or a "hag". I'm in my mid 40s, married, mother of three, one grandchild, a meaningful career, and all of my children attended top 25 universities. Play coy that being a wine or martini drunk, and wasting weekends away shopping and brunching weren't a "thing" for women over the last two decades. It's basically the premise of SATC. Waste your 20s and 30s and you'll land a Mr Big. Fertility? Don't worry about it! Have hedonistic fun! Millions of women who should have been married and having babies were wasting their lives on nothing. Pointless consumerism, and now, nothing to show for it. No heirs, no legacy, nobody will remember them. Genetic dead ends. Never mind end of life, imagine being stricken with an illness in your 30s 40s 50s and no husband or children to help. Or a husband who is exponentially more likely to leave you because he has no children with you. Never experiencing the joys of grandchildren. It's terribly sad how many women were conned.

A grandmother in your mid-40s? Did you not teach your kids how to use birth control?

Your posts read like you’re really bitter about your life choices. Sorry you were cleaning up puke while I was traveling the world and kicking ass at work.

No, I did not put our daughters on the pill. Our oldest married her college boyfriend. He is in medical school, she is a grammar school teacher on maturity leave. I'm not bitter. I feel sorry for young women brainwashed by media propaganda. I work with quite a few terminally single and childless women in their 30s and 40s. It's hardly a rare phenom, it's deeply sad.

No it's not. Obviously, math and statistics are not your strength.

PP was too busy pumping out babies as a teen to take math. Probably didn’t attend college.

I have a bachelor's and a master's degree and have enjoyed a 25 year professional career. I married my husband at 22, after dating for over three years in college. I guess we should have waited another 8 to 15 years so he could go screw around with various women and I could go waste years of my life aimlessly hooking up, traveling, shopping, boozing and ordering frittatas. We could circle back in our 30s with various mental illnesses, baggage, 90% of my viable eggs gone, and be old on our wedding day and miss seeing our grandchildren grow up. Because media and new wave feminism brainwashed you, and millions like you, to think that was the ideal. Marrying shortly after college is "white trash". Being a young bride and a beautiful educated young mother is so "gross". Right.

Trouble is my sister in law did that. Got married at 19 and had her kids 21, 23 and 26.

But her kids now 31, 33 and 36 only one is married and only one grandkid who lives out of state. She is an empty Nestor since 44 when youngest off to college and never moved back.

Her married one wants no kids. The other two no prospects.

Meanwhile my wife had kids at 36, 38 and 42. Today at 57 we did lunch hung out with two of them.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/27/women-child-free-30-ons

More than half (50.1%) of women in England and Wales born in 1990 were without a child when they turned 30 in 2020, the first generation to do so, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
That is almost three times higher than the lowest number of women ever to be child-free at 30 – 17.9% of those born in 1941.
At the same time the average number of children women have by the time they reach 30 has fallen to its lowest-ever level (0.96).

Kalergi plan. Look it up. Removal and censoring the existence of white straight Christians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It does seem like maybe you should have done something differently because you seem very hostile and disconnected with reality.

Traveling in your 20s does not lead to mental illness.
Having multiple relationships before marriage improves relationship/communication skills.
By marrying later as a fully-matured adult you know yourself better and know what would be your ideal partner.
Being financial secure and established in your career makes parenting less stressful.
By puberty, women have already lost 70% of eggs.
You only ovulate 1 egg a cycle. Having 10k vs 100k in reserve isn’t a meaningful difference.

Of course, some people may prefer to marry earlier, but there are certainly many advantages to waiting.

You believe college credentialed 22 or 23 year olds who've been dating each other for a few years are no different than 35 year olds who've been stressed in careers, hooking up with various people, boozing, birth control, relationship baggage, random sexual encounters, potential for STDs, abortion, Plan B, and birth control pill use for 12 additional years are no different mentally and physically? The former are far purer, the latter are almost always jaded messes. And the latter will likely need IVF to get pregnant, if they can at all. NYTimes.com recently featured a viral story on early and mid 30s female medical doctors who discovered they were practically or literally infertile.

A Medical Career, at a Cost: Infertility
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/health/women-doctors-infertility.html

In addition, if you even can, how many children can you realistically have at 35? Likely just one or two, if you're lucky. And you've squandered 10 plus years of being able to see your grandchildren grow, which is one of life's greatest joys. God doesn't give you an extra 10 to 15 years of life because you waited until you were a few more rungs up the corporate ladder.

Oh, one of those. Religious nutter who breeds for Jesus.

Guess no rational conversation is possible here.

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I have a bachelor's and a master's degree and have enjoyed a 25 year professional career. I married my husband at 22, after dating for over three years in college. I guess we should have waited another 8 to 15 years so he could go screw around with various women and I could go waste years of my life aimlessly hooking up, traveling, shopping, boozing and ordering frittatas. We could circle back in our 30s with various mental illnesses, baggage, 90% of my viable eggs gone, and be old on our wedding day and miss seeing our grandchildren grow up. Because media and new wave feminism brainwashed you, and millions like you, to think that was the ideal. Marrying shortly after college is "white trash". Being a young bride and a beautiful educated young mother is so "gross". Right.

Tell us more about how reproducing early prevents mental diseases. Put that master to use and I expect plos one research - applied math mom here who had kids in her 40s and still has a weakness for Italy, spinach quiche, and Kir Royale. BTW, it's never too late for him. Midlife crisis usually happens to the men who married young, didn't date a lot, and want to see what they were missing.

Look how damaged and wicked you are to the point you project your miserableness and cynicism onto others, wishing a happily married grandmother's husband cheats on her. This is a classic example of how going through your 20s and however many years of your 30s single, childless, hooking up, plus decades of the birth control pill (and perhaps Plan B and/or abortion) permanently warps your mind. You are clearly currently not in a good place. I wish you well and encourage you to find God.

LOL. You are projecting big time. You are hostile and disconnected from reality. Get help instead of berating all of the woman who made rational choices.

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Some of you are a little too invested in the life choices of complete strangers. Creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are a little too invested in the life choices of complete strangers. Creepy.

Seriously!

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This thread is so off the rails crazy!
I married at 28, had 3 kids between 35-40 and will probably live to be 100, based on my genetics. Maybe I’lo have grandkids or maybe not! My mom was in her 70s when my kids were born but she still was my night nurse, goes on vacations with us, and will likely see them graduate HS and even college. plenty of life left in her!
Meanwhile, my sister married at 25, had her between 28 and 34–that’s cool too! My best friend from college married at 24 and had her three kids before 30, but my other best friend married at 40 and won’t have kids but still has a very nice life. It’s all good so long as you make the life choices that are right for you!
And based on the number of women I know getting accidentally pregnant in their late 30s and even 40s (and my historical research h that involves birth patterns or women prior to birth control), I’m pretty sure that the average woman’s fertility doesn’t just explode at 35.

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Most women/men stay single because they didn’t meet the person they would want to marry. SATC has nothing to do with the lack of eligible marriage prospects for most highly educated women with successful careers. Not everyone wants to be a grammar school teacher with 6 kids. People make different choices and that is okay. It’s okay to love brunch. It’s okay to have 5 kids by the age of 30, if that’s what makes you tick. It’s okay to be single or married and childless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Oooooo the anti-brunch guy is back!!! I missed you and your rants against women going to brunch!!!

Is it really a dude? Gross.

I assumed it was a cranky old religious hag.

I'm not a "dude" or a "hag". I'm in my mid 40s, married, mother of three, one grandchild, a meaningful career, and all of my children attended top 25 universities. Play coy that being a wine or martini drunk, and wasting weekends away shopping and brunching weren't a "thing" for women over the last two decades. It's basically the premise of SATC. Waste your 20s and 30s and you'll land a Mr Big. Fertility? Don't worry about it! Have hedonistic fun! Millions of women who should have been married and having babies were wasting their lives on nothing. Pointless consumerism, and now, nothing to show for it. No heirs, no legacy, nobody will remember them. Genetic dead ends. Never mind end of life, imagine being stricken with an illness in your 30s 40s 50s and no husband or children to help. Or a husband who is exponentially more likely to leave you because he has no children with you. Never experiencing the joys of grandchildren. It's terribly sad how many women were conned.

A grandmother in your mid-40s? Did you not teach your kids how to use birth control?

Your posts read like you’re really bitter about your life choices. Sorry you were cleaning up puke while I was traveling the world and kicking ass at work.

No, I did not put our daughters on the pill. Our oldest married her college boyfriend. He is in medical school, she is a grammar school teacher on maturity leave. I'm not bitter. I feel sorry for young women brainwashed by media propaganda. I work with quite a few terminally single and childless women in their 30s and 40s. It's hardly a rare phenom, it's deeply sad.

No it's not. Obviously, math and statistics are not your strength.

PP was too busy pumping out babies as a teen to take math. Probably didn’t attend college.

You keep bringing up no college. Dp here and I know lots of very successful people that didn’t go to college and have made great decisions in their life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are a little too invested in the life choices of complete strangers. Creepy.

plus a million. What is going on here. Lots of insecurities really shining through.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

Oooooo the anti-brunch guy is back!!! I missed you and your rants against women going to brunch!!!

Is it really a dude? Gross.

I assumed it was a cranky old religious hag.

I'm not a "dude" or a "hag". I'm in my mid 40s, married, mother of three, one grandchild, a meaningful career, and all of my children attended top 25 universities. Play coy that being a wine or martini drunk, and wasting weekends away shopping and brunching weren't a "thing" for women over the last two decades. It's basically the premise of SATC. Waste your 20s and 30s and you'll land a Mr Big. Fertility? Don't worry about it! Have hedonistic fun! Millions of women who should have been married and having babies were wasting their lives on nothing. Pointless consumerism, and now, nothing to show for it. No heirs, no legacy, nobody will remember them. Genetic dead ends. Never mind end of life, imagine being stricken with an illness in your 30s 40s 50s and no husband or children to help. Or a husband who is exponentially more likely to leave you because he has no children with you. Never experiencing the joys of grandchildren. It's terribly sad how many women were conned.

Agree with PP. so many older single females nowadays. They thought they would be able to gallivant all over as they got older like SATC. Sorry that’s fake news. No one wants to hook up with 50 year old ladies trying to act 20.

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On this and other threads, I see people posting about “genetic dead ends” as though that is somehow a really cutting slur. Does anyone really care about that? Am I supposed to want generations of descendants to light candles at my altar like in the Mulan movie? On the list of things I care about, this ranks…..nowhere.

[Anonymous]

I'm in my 50s, and when I look back to old boyfriends from college and my 20s, they are all childless. Did I put them off kids or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most women/men stay single because they didn’t meet the person they would want to marry. SATC has nothing to do with the lack of eligible marriage prospects for most highly educated women with successful careers. Not everyone wants to be a grammar school teacher with 6 kids. People make different choices and that is okay. It’s okay to love brunch. It’s okay to have 5 kids by the age of 30, if that’s what makes you tick. It’s okay to be single or married and childless.

This. I'm over single and not by choice and because of SATC. I was never about hookup culture, and could care less about brunch. I just haven't met the man I want to spend the rest of my life with. If I never do, then I guess my dogs will watch me die. Whatever. My life is pretty fun anyway. I get to travel and compete in ultramarathons and work on all these side hustles in addition to my job which I actually like. My particular problem with meeting men is that I meet men organically at activities I do, but they're never settled down and it always turns out they are moving away to another state or only in town for a few months or what have you. But I'm pretty zen about it. My sisters have enough kids to continue the genetic line.