Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

Oh, another new talking point?

[Anonymous]

From "law and order" to let's kill Capitol Police and shoot judges and federal agents. All for Trump. It's crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

Oh, another new talking point?

It's always projection with R's. Trump lives to pay back anyone who stands in his way. His followers can't imagine anyone wouldn't be the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

He is....following the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why he still has lawyers defending him. He never pays them well, and no pay would ever compensate for the mudslinging they take on his behalf. They've SEEN previous lawyers of his get grilled by all parties. Do they believe it won't happen to them?!?

The lawyers think "Oh, I am the one who will get paid"

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

He never even got a judiciary committee hearing. Its simpleminded fallacy to suggest someone was “rejected” in the absence of an up-or-down vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's just talking about filing a challenge because of this:

It’s been two weeks since the warrant was executed. The time to file a motion seeking appointment of a special master typically utilized for review of attorney-client privileged communications or other emergency relief is long past. It is a virtual certainty the taint team finished its review days ago. It’s all performative grift to fleece the credulous rubes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

He never even got a judiciary committee hearing. Its simpleminded fallacy to suggest someone was “rejected” in the absence of an up-or-down vote.

don't bother. You can't argue with stupid people, or people in cults. Logic and critical thinking skills don't exist in Trumplandia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why he still has lawyers defending him. He never pays them well, and no pay would ever compensate for the mudslinging they take on his behalf. They've SEEN previous lawyers of his get grilled by all parties. Do they believe it won't happen to them?!?

No decent lawyer wants to work with Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alan-dershowitz-says-every-reputable-184537570.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From "law and order" to let's kill Capitol Police and shoot judges and federal agents. All for Trump. It's crazy.

It was always lurking beneath the surface in the GOP. As has been pointed out, their love for police wasn’t a love of rule of law but a love of the knee on the right people’s necks. It has always been there in the GOP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Judge just ordered a redacted version released. yay!

That's not really true. He ordered DOJ to give him a proposed redacted version with justifications for the redactions. We won't see anything anytime this month, and I think there's at least a 50/50 chance DOJ prevails on him to keep it all sealed.

It's a good theoretical stance, but in practice I hope much of it is redacted to protect all the people who are cooperating with the investigation.

It will be very heavily redacted and I am sure all witness names and identifying information will be redacted out. Anything that identifies the actual documents at issue will be redacted. There will probably be some procedural stuff, background on the statutes at issue, maybe a little background section about Trump and Mar-a-Lago, that won't be redacted, but it won't be anything new. The only thing of interest that might not be redacted is the back-and-forth that happened before the search, but I'm not sure that would even be in there in the first place since it was not relevant to the legal issue.

It is the ONLY thing of interest. Garland said they did it because they had no other choice and the “back and forth” better back that up orherwise all the people saying this is a witch-hunt or politically motivated will be right.

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No they won’t. Decent chance the affidavit says nothing about this because it is irrelevant as a legal matter.

A warrant is a court ordered breach of someone’s 4th Amendment rights. I this context, with Trump lawyers already involved and some amount of cooperation having gone, some description of how the cooperation ended or broke down and reached stalemate is part of the legal analysis. And yes, for this if you think this was just ok to do, it is an authorized breach of a constitutional protection.

There is no constitutional impediment to a reasonable search and siezure under the Fourth Amendment as authorized by a warrant issued pursuant to a showing of probable cause. It’s right there in the text of the Amendment, which proscribes only an “unreasonable” search. To frame the issue as you have done demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the Constitution.

The question is was it reasonable? This judge concluded it was and people want to see the basis for his decision. It is reasonable if trumps team wasn’t cooperating. But if they were cooperating and then DOJ went silent for 2 months and then got the warrant, I think there is a fair argument that it was unreasonable. If law enforcement is working with a person about obtaining things, and the person is cooperating and awaiting the next steps, then this was an unreasonable warrant. The judge’s decision could be overturned. The warrant CAN be found invalid on appeal.

Also not a lawyer, but you don't appeal warrants. You get your chance to argue 4th amendment when you are charged and prosecuted and your lawyer attempts to exclude evidence. That's usually the pint at which an affidavit's contents are open. We know TFG is just fuming wondering who ratted him out, but seems pretty clear he himself is the actual rat here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:anybody read this: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/us/politics/trump-fbi-classified-documents.html

It says he kept the documents because he is just a senile old hoarder. How can anybody want this man as their leader? No discipline, no thoughtfulness. Just an animal, like a dog.

That’s Maggie Haberman’s take, she’s always trying to excuse Trump.

Haberman’s take always sounds like the Ivanka POV.

I listened to her on The daily today. On that, she wasn't defending Trump, just giving it as a kid of history of Trump. He likes his little mementos and like showing them off. And she said what a lot of people have said - Trump maintained the documents belonged to him. Like literally refused to accept the idea that they are government property.

It's amazing there's still a stick of furniture or a dish left in the White House.

Not enough gold leaf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Garland is a very cautious and methodical attorney. I don’t believe he would have moved forward if this was unreasonable. He knew damn well it would be scrutinized.

The way Trumpsters are explaining it, Garland is on a political witch hunt against Trump. It's pure politics. That's their explanation.

The thing is, though, as you stated, Garland is very cautious, and he wouldn't do this for political reasons. It would blow up in his face.

I think Trumpsters don't realize that not all people are as vindicative or stupid as Trump. This type of weaponizing the DoJ is something that Trump tried to do, but it's not something that everyone would do. Not everyone is as vindicative, or dumb, as Trump.

Garland is seeking revenge because he was rejected for the supreme court

Sounds about as plausible as Russia trying to claim the war in Ukraine is because the West wants revenge for the Battle of Poltava in the 1700s.