Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it 8/1 or 9/1?

lol, we all said 8/1 for a reason (yes there was originally talk of 9/1, but all official announcements were 8/1)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does this have to do with Bethesda Soccer On Way Down? Disappointing.

BSC parent who doesn't follow huge announcements proves the club is on the way down /s

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Anonymous wrote:I hear what you're saying but it doesn't quite add up. If MLS Next is CY and a kid born on 10/15/2014 isn't good enough to make the 2014 MLS Next team, why would BSC put him on the "2015" team at U12? The following year he couldn't play MLS Next at U13 with the 2015 team and would have to try out again for the 2014 team that he already didn't make.

I don't know why MLS hasn't decided yet, or maybe they've decided and haven't made a public statement. In general, MLS Next doesn't allow kids to play for their HS teams so why would they care about SY teammates?

BSC would put a Q4 2014 on their U12 team (8/1/14-7/31/15) if it helps them win. You should drop any thought of 2015 and U12. Plain and simple.

If that 2014 does not make the U14 MLS Next I or II teams the next year, they will be eligible to play for the U13 NAL 3rd team and that will be USYS and for ages 8/1/14-7/31/15 or play up with the U14 NAL 3rd team. Confusing, yes, which is why there are hundreds of pages dedicated to it and why the simplest solution is for MLS to go SY and deal with BY for national teams and international tournaments which is .01% of the soccer population.

This is an international area where a lot of top players come from countries who play 7v7 through U13. You will have 8/1/14+ good enough to play MLS Next who will choose to remain in 9v9 for additional development so it would be wise for 2015's, in particular, to adjust their expectations going into this spring. It is an American phenomenon to rush to 11v11 and MLS Next. Development is a long, slow process.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. I generally disagree that a Q4 2014 player who doesn't make the U13 MLS Next I or II team for 26-27 would easily step into the top U12 2015 team. The current 2014 top team lost several top players from last year's team and has generally struggled this season. My guess is that they only have 2-3 players with BY after 8/1/14.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear what you're saying but it doesn't quite add up. If MLS Next is CY and a kid born on 10/15/2014 isn't good enough to make the 2014 MLS Next team, why would BSC put him on the "2015" team at U12? The following year he couldn't play MLS Next at U13 with the 2015 team and would have to try out again for the 2014 team that he already didn't make.

I don't know why MLS hasn't decided yet, or maybe they've decided and haven't made a public statement. In general, MLS Next doesn't allow kids to play for their HS teams so why would they care about SY teammates?

BSC would put a Q4 2014 on their U12 team (8/1/14-7/31/15) if it helps them win. You should drop any thought of 2015 and U12. Plain and simple.

If that 2014 does not make the U14 MLS Next I or II teams the next year, they will be eligible to play for the U13 NAL 3rd team and that will be USYS and for ages 8/1/14-7/31/15 or play up with the U14 NAL 3rd team. Confusing, yes, which is why there are hundreds of pages dedicated to it and why the simplest solution is for MLS to go SY and deal with BY for national teams and international tournaments which is .01% of the soccer population.

This is an international area where a lot of top players come from countries who play 7v7 through U13. You will have 8/1/14+ good enough to play MLS Next who will choose to remain in 9v9 for additional development so it would be wise for 2015's, in particular, to adjust their expectations going into this spring. It is an American phenomenon to rush to 11v11 and MLS Next. Development is a long, slow process.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. I generally disagree that a Q4 2014 player who doesn't make the U13 MLS Next I or II team for 26-27 would easily step into the top U12 2015 team. The current 2014 top team lost several top players from last year's team and has generally struggled this season. My guess is that they only have 2-3 players with BY after 8/1/14.

We were one of those families who left. Yes, they are struggling because they don't have SM and loss a lot of talent as a result. Most of our kids were there for SM.

I don't know their breakdown but I do know this. There will be Q4 2014's from Potomac, Achilles, Coppermine, SAC and smaller teams like Juventus, Liverpool, etc. playing in EDP at tryouts for the new U12. There will be a wide open competition for the U12 teams at every club, not just Bethesda. Just prepare yourself accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear what you're saying but it doesn't quite add up. If MLS Next is CY and a kid born on 10/15/2014 isn't good enough to make the 2014 MLS Next team, why would BSC put him on the "2015" team at U12? The following year he couldn't play MLS Next at U13 with the 2015 team and would have to try out again for the 2014 team that he already didn't make.

I don't know why MLS hasn't decided yet, or maybe they've decided and haven't made a public statement. In general, MLS Next doesn't allow kids to play for their HS teams so why would they care about SY teammates?

BSC would put a Q4 2014 on their U12 team (8/1/14-7/31/15) if it helps them win. You should drop any thought of 2015 and U12. Plain and simple.

If that 2014 does not make the U14 MLS Next I or II teams the next year, they will be eligible to play for the U13 NAL 3rd team and that will be USYS and for ages 8/1/14-7/31/15 or play up with the U14 NAL 3rd team. Confusing, yes, which is why there are hundreds of pages dedicated to it and why the simplest solution is for MLS to go SY and deal with BY for national teams and international tournaments which is .01% of the soccer population.

This is an international area where a lot of top players come from countries who play 7v7 through U13. You will have 8/1/14+ good enough to play MLS Next who will choose to remain in 9v9 for additional development so it would be wise for 2015's, in particular, to adjust their expectations going into this spring. It is an American phenomenon to rush to 11v11 and MLS Next. Development is a long, slow process.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. I generally disagree that a Q4 2014 player who doesn't make the U13 MLS Next I or II team for 26-27 would easily step into the top U12 2015 team. The current 2014 top team lost several top players from last year's team and has generally struggled this season. My guess is that they only have 2-3 players with BY after 8/1/14.

We were one of those families who left. Yes, they are struggling because they don't have SM and loss a lot of talent as a result. Most of our kids were there for SM.

I don't know their breakdown but I do know this. There will be Q4 2014's from Potomac, Achilles, Coppermine, SAC and smaller teams like Juventus, Liverpool, etc. playing in EDP at tryouts for the new U12. There will be a wide open competition for the U12 teams at every club, not just Bethesda. Just prepare yourself accordingly.

So who is as good as SM that these families were willing to jump to? I've been really surprised that so few clubs have consistency in coaching that would encourage families to stay. SM is a good coach but why doesn't BSC just have coaching standards and check on all coaches to make sure they're implementing whatever development philosophy/strategy they have?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear what you're saying but it doesn't quite add up. If MLS Next is CY and a kid born on 10/15/2014 isn't good enough to make the 2014 MLS Next team, why would BSC put him on the "2015" team at U12? The following year he couldn't play MLS Next at U13 with the 2015 team and would have to try out again for the 2014 team that he already didn't make.

I don't know why MLS hasn't decided yet, or maybe they've decided and haven't made a public statement. In general, MLS Next doesn't allow kids to play for their HS teams so why would they care about SY teammates?

BSC would put a Q4 2014 on their U12 team (8/1/14-7/31/15) if it helps them win. You should drop any thought of 2015 and U12. Plain and simple.

If that 2014 does not make the U14 MLS Next I or II teams the next year, they will be eligible to play for the U13 NAL 3rd team and that will be USYS and for ages 8/1/14-7/31/15 or play up with the U14 NAL 3rd team. Confusing, yes, which is why there are hundreds of pages dedicated to it and why the simplest solution is for MLS to go SY and deal with BY for national teams and international tournaments which is .01% of the soccer population.

This is an international area where a lot of top players come from countries who play 7v7 through U13. You will have 8/1/14+ good enough to play MLS Next who will choose to remain in 9v9 for additional development so it would be wise for 2015's, in particular, to adjust their expectations going into this spring. It is an American phenomenon to rush to 11v11 and MLS Next. Development is a long, slow process.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. I generally disagree that a Q4 2014 player who doesn't make the U13 MLS Next I or II team for 26-27 would easily step into the top U12 2015 team. The current 2014 top team lost several top players from last year's team and has generally struggled this season. My guess is that they only have 2-3 players with BY after 8/1/14.

We were one of those families who left. Yes, they are struggling because they don't have SM and loss a lot of talent as a result. Most of our kids were there for SM.

I don't know their breakdown but I do know this. There will be Q4 2014's from Potomac, Achilles, Coppermine, SAC and smaller teams like Juventus, Liverpool, etc. playing in EDP at tryouts for the new U12. There will be a wide open competition for the U12 teams at every club, not just Bethesda. Just prepare yourself accordingly.

So who is as good as SM that these families were willing to jump to? I've been really surprised that so few clubs have consistency in coaching that would encourage families to stay. SM is a good coach but why doesn't BSC just have coaching standards and check on all coaches to make sure they're implementing whatever development philosophy/strategy they have?

It's a good question. I am not sure how coaches are evaluated at BSC. In my five years with the Club I don't think I've ever seen a club director or age group director observe one practice. Winning, unfortunately, is easy to quantify. I've even hear coaches gripe about it because they feel like no one sees the work they're putting in to improve players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear what you're saying but it doesn't quite add up. If MLS Next is CY and a kid born on 10/15/2014 isn't good enough to make the 2014 MLS Next team, why would BSC put him on the "2015" team at U12? The following year he couldn't play MLS Next at U13 with the 2015 team and would have to try out again for the 2014 team that he already didn't make.

I don't know why MLS hasn't decided yet, or maybe they've decided and haven't made a public statement. In general, MLS Next doesn't allow kids to play for their HS teams so why would they care about SY teammates?

BSC would put a Q4 2014 on their U12 team (8/1/14-7/31/15) if it helps them win. You should drop any thought of 2015 and U12. Plain and simple.

If that 2014 does not make the U14 MLS Next I or II teams the next year, they will be eligible to play for the U13 NAL 3rd team and that will be USYS and for ages 8/1/14-7/31/15 or play up with the U14 NAL 3rd team. Confusing, yes, which is why there are hundreds of pages dedicated to it and why the simplest solution is for MLS to go SY and deal with BY for national teams and international tournaments which is .01% of the soccer population.

This is an international area where a lot of top players come from countries who play 7v7 through U13. You will have 8/1/14+ good enough to play MLS Next who will choose to remain in 9v9 for additional development so it would be wise for 2015's, in particular, to adjust their expectations going into this spring. It is an American phenomenon to rush to 11v11 and MLS Next. Development is a long, slow process.

I appreciate the thoughtful response. I generally disagree that a Q4 2014 player who doesn't make the U13 MLS Next I or II team for 26-27 would easily step into the top U12 2015 team. The current 2014 top team lost several top players from last year's team and has generally struggled this season. My guess is that they only have 2-3 players with BY after 8/1/14.

We were one of those families who left. Yes, they are struggling because they don't have SM and loss a lot of talent as a result. Most of our kids were there for SM.

I don't know their breakdown but I do know this. There will be Q4 2014's from Potomac, Achilles, Coppermine, SAC and smaller teams like Juventus, Liverpool, etc. playing in EDP at tryouts for the new U12. There will be a wide open competition for the U12 teams at every club, not just Bethesda. Just prepare yourself accordingly.

So who is as good as SM that these families were willing to jump to? I've been really surprised that so few clubs have consistency in coaching that would encourage families to stay. SM is a good coach but why doesn't BSC just have coaching standards and check on all coaches to make sure they're implementing whatever development philosophy/strategy they have?

It is not that our current coach is at good as SM. He is not. We have gotten reviews from parents of our former 2014 teammates. They are regretting running off SM. My kid loved SM. Others did not. That is a politics thing and the way that BSC handles parental complaints. My kid is learning a different aspect of the game with our current club and we will see what the coaching assignments are next year and make our decisions accordingly. I can say my kid is not learning as much as he would with SM but we make the best of the situation presented.

[Anonymous]

How are people feeling about the way the Fall season has gone for their players/coaches/teams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are people feeling about the way the Fall season has gone for their players/coaches/teams?

Great! High school season

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are people feeling about the way the Fall season has gone for their players/coaches/teams?

BSC is overrated in 2025. Unless we get a miracle coaching assignment, we are one and done. So glad we came to peek under the hood to see for ourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:How are people feeling about the way the Fall season has gone for their players/coaches/teams?

BSC is overrated in 2025. Unless we get a miracle coaching assignment, we are one and done. So glad we came to peek under the hood to see for ourselves.

My kid plays for a Leesburg-based team, Bethesda spanks us every single time. You’re lying through your teeth.

[Anonymous]

I think each gender, age group, coach, and team will have a unique experience that will be color the opinion for each player and their parents.

[Anonymous]

Does BSC allow MLS Next boys to play for their HS teams?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does BSC allow MLS Next boys to play for their HS teams?

Isn't that a league rule and not a club rule?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does BSC allow MLS Next boys to play for their HS teams?

Isn't that a league rule and not a club rule?

I think it's the clubs but could be wrong. I heard that Achilles allows their kids to play for their HS teams while also playing for the club while BSC does not.