Your DC will have to do work all the way through the recruiting process unless your power index is single-digit. Some kids will be done by the fall of junior year, others will drag across the line in the fall of senior year. One of the most important steps in this process is selling yourself by engaging with the coaching staff. If your DC is too lazy, arrogant, or both to communicate their times from meets, they should not expect anyone to come. Relying on a data aggregator to get across the line is foolish and naive. |
| Another vote for Swimcloud. Helps tremendously in recruiting. Worth the $45. |
| Swimcloud power index and rankings are a joke. Major bias for distance. |
It most certainly does NOT favor distance. Read this: “In American college swimming events 100 yards or shorter account for more than half the points in championship meets, and relays make up over a third. Our formula gives added clarity to sprint and relay strengths—because that’s what coaches use when building high-performing teams.” Maybe your swimmer is just not as fast and college-ready as you think they are. |
You’re conflating things- SwimCloud does favor distance in that it’s easier to get a better Power Index as a distance swimmer However, it is “easier” to get recruited as a sprinter bc of the relay point system. |
| Distance swimmers-pure milers-have always faced the hardest recruiting hill. It is a function of both the design of meets (dual, conferences, and champs) as mentioned above and the fact, which is implied above, you have one event to score points. Realize that 25% of swimmers don’t even swim the 1650—-who knows the reason, but even under these circumstances the competition has gotten fierce with 75% of the competition refusing to try. If you have weak depth beyond this event, no real middle distance speed and scoring ability then your DCs value is now harder to prove. It is not because of their index it is because there are less spots. All college coaches want to win and there is less risk to winning when you can stack your relay teams and fill those slots first with swimmers who excel in 50s, 100s, and 200s across events, which does not need a miler. Hence DC must score day one or find a team for which you do. Otherwise you are wasting your time. |
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This is complete nonsense: “However, it is “easier” to get recruited as a sprinter bc of the relay point system.”
The #1-ranked 2026 male in Maryland according to Swimcloud is a sprinter who did not commit to a Power 4 school. The #2-ranked 2026 male in the state is a distance swimmer and committed to Indiana. |
| How many of the posts here are being written and sent from the Georgetown Prep parking lot? |
No it’s not. It’s a great convenience for swimmers but coaches don’t rely on swimcloud to recruit. |
| There is one thing this thread misses. Times are no doubt important. No index exists to measure your DC’s ability to be coached, attitude, self-control, height, weight, have they passed peak development, shoe size, wingspan, GPA, test scores, or ability not to be an idiot, is your DC a liability, etc. Maybe it is not the swimming per se that is the issue it is your DC. |
The parking lot of broken dreams. |
#1 is going to a service academy, #2 has an Olympic trial cut. Plus, IU likes RMSC swimmers. |
| #4 is middle distance and also got a Power 4 roster spot |
It's funny because it's true. |
| Circling back to the earlier topic of this thread - any updates on 3rd-party access to results files / website ability to update information? SwimIO posted a warning about this several days ago but I think the warning is gone now, which is what prompted my question. |