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of the big 3 (ML, NL &DCE) teams only about 15 players will get to play at a serious college program the rest will play at D3 schools they never would have considered going to, college club or not pls in college at all.

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How is that a problem. Isn't up to the player and his parents to decide whether playing at the D3 level is worth it. And regardless of that view, I'd argue a majority of D3 programs recruit looking for kids that play on club teams. Very few are looking at school only players.

It seems you are the problem. These kids are not traveling around the country while spending massive amounts of cash to play D3. D3 is a nice landing pad however it is not anyone’s goal.

Stupid take. This isn’t a D1 vs D3 football or basketball debate. We’re talking about lacrosse. There are a ton of DMV families who have kids playing club lax and aspire to play in college who absolutely choose top D3 schools over D1. No one is taking an offer to play at 75% of D1 schools (looking at you Siena, Mercer, St Bonaventure, Robert Morris’ etc) over an opportunity to play at a Tufts and/or other top D3 lax programs with high academic reputations

You are lying to yourself. No child is aspiring to play D3 anything. They are D3 players and just come to grips with it and that is ok.

Someone's deeply scarring childhood is being revealed here. Well, that of the author and his poor kid too.

[Anonymous]

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BLC is a very strong club financially. It is not dad run. They helped bring DCE to the area from Long Island and helped to create the offering here in the DMV.

The club itself was chiefly introduced by a dad in the area who identified a need for a high level offering out side of ML who had strong connections.

When DCE began the death spiral it is in currently, BLC had rights to purchase the remaining stake.

I think BLC can make things a lot better for current families. Their letter to current players showed they have identified the shortcomings in the club currently.

Unfortunately the last few years of young men really missed out and paid for it, and not just financially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:from other string, where someone posted on a 5 year old

BLC is a very strong club financially. It is not dad run. They helped bring DCE to the area from Long Island and helped to create the offering here in the DMV.

The club itself was chiefly introduced by a dad in the area who identified a need for a high level offering out side of ML who had strong connections.

When DCE began the death spiral it is in currently, BLC had rights to purchase the remaining stake.

I think BLC can make things a lot better for current families. Their letter to current players showed they have identified the shortcomings in the club currently.

Unfortunately the last few years of young men really missed out and paid for it, and not just financially.

what death spiral? My son is on the 2028 Black team and as far as I can tell the team is is doing great. It has been playing in great tournaments this summer and current fall, winning most of its games, and is stronger than its two local competitors (NL and ML) in the 2028 class. In addition to all the usual fall tournaments they have done private showcases at Maryland, Penn, and Princeton, they are going to IMCLA in Orlando next month to coincide with the NCAA coaches' convention, they had a very informative presentation on recruiting at the start of the fall, and have a recruiting information session coming up with the head coach at Richmond. My understanding is that most of the 2026's are committed to good schools, including a late commit to Duke. My son is expecting that he and most of his 2028 teammates are on track to get recruited as well. am I missing something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:from other string, where someone posted on a 5 year old

BLC is a very strong club financially. It is not dad run. They helped bring DCE to the area from Long Island and helped to create the offering here in the DMV.

The club itself was chiefly introduced by a dad in the area who identified a need for a high level offering out side of ML who had strong connections.

When DCE began the death spiral it is in currently, BLC had rights to purchase the remaining stake.

I think BLC can make things a lot better for current families. Their letter to current players showed they have identified the shortcomings in the club currently.

Unfortunately the last few years of young men really missed out and paid for it, and not just financially.

The 27s are doing fine recruiting wise too. It is known that that team isn’t as strong as the ML and NL 27s so expected that they wouldn’t have AS many recruits. But they have recruits and will continue to add. The 25 and 26 years did awesome so not sure which of the ‘last few years’ you’re referring to.

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every year Orange Team since 2022.

Every black team since 2022 with exception of 25 and 26 which had special circumstances and dads' who actively kept those team going, despite the clubs inability to help with anything other than charging exorbitant fees for zero support.

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Anonymous wrote:every year Orange Team since 2022.

Every black team since 2022 with exception of 25 and 26 which had special circumstances and dads' who actively kept those team going, despite the clubs inability to help with anything other than charging exorbitant fees for zero support.

^ + 100

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Anonymous wrote:every year Orange Team since 2022.

Every black team since 2022 with exception of 25 and 26 which had special circumstances and dads' who actively kept those team going, despite the clubs inability to help with anything other than charging exorbitant fees for zero support.

Every Orange team since 2022? I only know specifics besides 2025 Orange, but they were a top 100 club team with multiple D1, D2, and D3 recruits despite 8-10 players leaving to top teams with 6 of those being top D1 recruits. Easily better than other local B teams

Other club rankings last year:
26: DCE Orange 203, NL Red: 301, MadLax DMV: 604. Also know that a top Maryland recruit left Orange for MadLax 10th grade.
27: DCE Orange: 411, NL Red: 178, MadLax DMV: No team? (Ok looks like you have a point here)
28: DCE Orange: 106, NL Red: 202, MadLax DMV: No team?

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Think of what that 2025 Orange Team could have been with DCE recruiting support? They had the best player in the state of Maryland (public) and he was severely under recruited imo

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Anonymous wrote:from other string, where someone posted on a 5 year old

BLC is a very strong club financially. It is not dad run. They helped bring DCE to the area from Long Island and helped to create the offering here in the DMV.

The club itself was chiefly introduced by a dad in the area who identified a need for a high level offering out side of ML who had strong connections.

When DCE began the death spiral it is in currently, BLC had rights to purchase the remaining stake.

I think BLC can make things a lot better for current families. Their letter to current players showed they have identified the shortcomings in the club currently.

Unfortunately the last few years of young men really missed out and paid for it, and not just financially.

what death spiral? My son is on the 2028 Black team and as far as I can tell the team is is doing great. It has been playing in great tournaments this summer and current fall, winning most of its games, and is stronger than its two local competitors (NL and ML) in the 2028 class. In addition to all the usual fall tournaments they have done private showcases at Maryland, Penn, and Princeton, they are going to IMCLA in Orlando next month to coincide with the NCAA coaches' convention, they had a very informative presentation on recruiting at the start of the fall, and have a recruiting information session coming up with the head coach at Richmond. My understanding is that most of the 2026's are committed to good schools, including a late commit to Duke. My son is expecting that he and most of his 2028 teammates are on track to get recruited as well. am I missing something?

Why don't the teams you talk about try to do anything with their B teams? If you helped all of your players, you would be able to keep and have more kids. Or are the B teams really that much worse?

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Anonymous wrote:DCE former owners can now focus solely on coaching and the BLC people can handle the business that distracts owners who coach. Considering some of the owners who coach around here this like a good separation of church and state to me.

Anzelone was the former owner and he got out just like i said he would when his son graduated. Mission accomplished. Now Urick can launch his kids.

Sadly this is the way of these clubs. Their kids and their kids' friends above all others.

IF BLC's recent track record with the boys' club program is any indication of how daddy ball is going to work with the older kids at DCE, this merger seems like it's going to be a disaster.

BLC is where they don’t do daddy ball - see ML 2027, NL 2030, NL 20 whatever McCavera - all teams formed at BLC with dad coaches who wanted to keep going so had to take their entire teams - cutting more and more original players every year of course - to these other places.

Ah, no. These BLC daddy ball teams didn't implode because BLC wouldn't let the coaches continue to coach their teams. They imploded because the daddy coach model that BLC permits got so toxic that team after team disbanded in order to play for NL, ML, etc. where they largely avoid dad coaches.

I really was hoping for DCE to find a way through the fact that the BLC pipeline for talent in the 2030, 2031, 2032, 2033 etc. classes is so weak. Tying themselves even more strongly to the BLC pipeline is the worst thing they can do to build DCE from within.

Madlax 29– Daddy Coach
Madlax 28– daddy Coach
Next Level 28- just a bad coach
Next Level 29- Daddy Coach
Next Level 30– Daddy Coach

Not saying it’s a bad thing, but your insinuation that DCE is daddy ball is factually bankrupt

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCE former owners can now focus solely on coaching and the BLC people can handle the business that distracts owners who coach. Considering some of the owners who coach around here this like a good separation of church and state to me.

Anzelone was the former owner and he got out just like i said he would when his son graduated. Mission accomplished. Now Urick can launch his kids.

Sadly this is the way of these clubs. Their kids and their kids' friends above all others.

IF BLC's recent track record with the boys' club program is any indication of how daddy ball is going to work with the older kids at DCE, this merger seems like it's going to be a disaster.

BLC is where they don’t do daddy ball - see ML 2027, NL 2030, NL 20 whatever McCavera - all teams formed at BLC with dad coaches who wanted to keep going so had to take their entire teams - cutting more and more original players every year of course - to these other places.

Ah, no. These BLC daddy ball teams didn't implode because BLC wouldn't let the coaches continue to coach their teams. They imploded because the daddy coach model that BLC permits got so toxic that team after team disbanded in order to play for NL, ML, etc. where they largely avoid dad coaches.

I really was hoping for DCE to find a way through the fact that the BLC pipeline for talent in the 2030, 2031, 2032, 2033 etc. classes is so weak. Tying themselves even more strongly to the BLC pipeline is the worst thing they can do to build DCE from within.

Madlax 29– Daddy Coach
Madlax 28– daddy Coach
Next Level 28- just a bad coach
Next Level 29- Daddy Coach
Next Level 30– Daddy Coach

Not saying it’s a bad thing, but your insinuation that DCE is daddy ball is factually bankrupt

Didn't over 10 players from ML, Daddy Coach, leave to go to DCE a couple years ago?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:from other string, where someone posted on a 5 year old

BLC is a very strong club financially. It is not dad run. They helped bring DCE to the area from Long Island and helped to create the offering here in the DMV.

The club itself was chiefly introduced by a dad in the area who identified a need for a high level offering out side of ML who had strong connections.

When DCE began the death spiral it is in currently, BLC had rights to purchase the remaining stake.

I think BLC can make things a lot better for current families. Their letter to current players showed they have identified the shortcomings in the club currently.

Unfortunately the last few years of young men really missed out and paid for it, and not just financially.

what death spiral? My son is on the 2028 Black team and as far as I can tell the team is is doing great. It has been playing in great tournaments this summer and current fall, winning most of its games, and is stronger than its two local competitors (NL and ML) in the 2028 class. In addition to all the usual fall tournaments they have done private showcases at Maryland, Penn, and Princeton, they are going to IMCLA in Orlando next month to coincide with the NCAA coaches' convention, they had a very informative presentation on recruiting at the start of the fall, and have a recruiting information session coming up with the head coach at Richmond. My understanding is that most of the 2026's are committed to good schools, including a late commit to Duke. My son is expecting that he and most of his 2028 teammates are on track to get recruited as well. am I missing something?

Why don't the teams you talk about try to do anything with their B teams? If you helped all of your players, you would be able to keep and have more kids. Or are the B teams really that much worse?

I'm not sure what you mean by "try to do anything with their B teams." The fact that all three age groups have robust rosters on both the Black and Orange teams is impressive in itself. I would guess that about half the Orange players aspire to play D3 or club lacrosse in college, and the other half are playing for fun and to improve their ability to contribute to their HS teams. D3 recruiting happens on a different timeline than D1, and I would expect that DCE gives the Orange players the recruiting support they need at the appropriate time. I don't know what you mean by "much worse," but I don't think that Orange players looking to get noticed by D1 teams so naturally they aren't doing private showcases at Maryland, Penn, and Princeton like the Black teams are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC express stinks, end of story. This will acquisition will be epic failure.

Sounds like Cabell is very nervous, as he should be. He’s an ill-tempered D3 washout who got fired from every school he worked at, but found a niche bilking wealthy parents in NoVa. That run is getting tired. The guys at NL are eating his lunch and the bag it came in, and the BLC/DCE guys are some of the most respected guys in high school and college lacrosse circles. This new combination will be a problem for Madlax, and will make NL earn it.

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of the big 3 (ML, NL &DCE) teams only about 15 players will get to play at a serious college program the rest will play at D3 schools they never would have considered going to, college club or not pls in college at all.

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How is that a problem. Isn't up to the player and his parents to decide whether playing at the D3 level is worth it. And regardless of that view, I'd argue a majority of D3 programs recruit looking for kids that play on club teams. Very few are looking at school only players.

The problem is that Most of these families are not investing their time with the hopes of playing for Hobart and Bodwin which is the likely best case scenario.


Its a free country and you can do what you want with your time and money but from my experience travel lacrosse is like playing the lottery if a lottery ticket was 5 grand a year.

And?

So people don't understand statistics, probability, etc. Oh, that never ever happens...where is my sarcasm button.

There is a market out there and there are private enterprises providing services to that market. No one is forcing parents to pay those fees. Who made you the arbiter of what people should spend their money on?

I'd love for my kid to play D3 if that is his desire. Even if he didn't play D3 or club or anything in college, I'd look at paying the travel fees well worth it. I've made some great friends from many of the parents on the teams - I'm still friends and talk with lots of parents that have moved to other travel teams. I've taken great trips to places I'd probably never go but for travel lacrosse. I've had great conversations with my kids in the car ride about anything and everything while driving to tournaments. My kids have learned about team work, how to balance school and sports, how to work hard to reach a goal, etc.

Has that cost money? Sure, but most things in life cost money. I don't care about other people's reasons for doing it. Those are mine.

I wouldn't trade those memories for almost anything in the world.

Amen brother!!!

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of the big 3 (ML, NL &DCE) teams only about 15 players will get to play at a serious college program the rest will play at D3 schools they never would have considered going to, college club or not pls in college at all.

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How is that a problem. Isn't up to the player and his parents to decide whether playing at the D3 level is worth it. And regardless of that view, I'd argue a majority of D3 programs recruit looking for kids that play on club teams. Very few are looking at school only players.

It seems you are the problem. These kids are not traveling around the country while spending massive amounts of cash to play D3. D3 is a nice landing pad however it is not anyone’s goal.

Stupid take. This isn’t a D1 vs D3 football or basketball debate. We’re talking about lacrosse. There are a ton of DMV families who have kids playing club lax and aspire to play in college who absolutely choose top D3 schools over D1. No one is taking an offer to play at 75% of D1 schools (looking at you Siena, Mercer, St Bonaventure, Robert Morris’ etc) over an opportunity to play at a Tufts and/or other top D3 lax programs with high academic reputations

You are lying to yourself. No child is aspiring to play D3 anything. They are D3 players and just come to grips with it and that is ok.

every kid is different. take a deep breath and think about how poorly you are coming across.

Perhaps, just perhaps, these kids in 7th and 8th grade get into the Club vortex hoping to play at Duke or Princeton. But alas, they don’t get one of those coveted spots at either one, and they end up playing at Bowdoin or Tufts or Williams or one of the other little Ivy’s. Either way, they may have wanted to play in the ACC, but still ended up having an incredible opportunity to play at a D3 school and get a degree that is literally 10x more coveted than 80% of the “D1” programs like the ones a PP mentioned.