
Sounding a lot like you'd prefer to see all individuals with learning disabilities not have an opportunity. The short answer is - they get a low grade even with the extra hours because their learning disabilities don't allow them to process the information. So curriculum could be modified or approached differently to help all learners, or you are given one crutch instead of two and a "good luck - you suck" approach from people like you. |
I really don't understand why some people can get more time in college.
I really hope this doesn't flow up to the workforce next. Employee A wants more time for his deadline but Employee B isn't eligible for more time, meanwhile the customer still wants it in the same timeframe. |
All my professors were called Dr. when they had PhDs. They use Dr. when being referred to professionally.
I actually think it's obnoxious when my colleagues use "Dr." (I'm in engineering), but in the educational field it's very normal. MDs are called doctors professionally and socially. |
Unfortunately, it's never going to be an even playing field for people with challenges. It's so nice to know that there are people out there like you that don't want to make any accommodations for others to succeed. Do you also feel the same about people with physical limitations? No need to have handicap-accessible desks, elevators or car parking? |
DP: The principle is reasonable accommodations and they shouldn't interfere with what is required to effectively work in the discipline/job. If speed of response is critical in the field, then more time isn't deemed reasonable. If visual acuity is critical for some aspect of learning (e.g., radiology) and the technology doesn't yet exist to support a visually impaired person from succeeding, then there is no reasonable accommodation. I agree with you the PP that if timing on a test isn't critical, then no one should have a time constraint. But sometimes this is just logistically hard to handle. I also think some of the aspects of special ed practices in universal pK-12 have been drifting up to higher ed in ways that aren't always sensible. Sometimes the need for accommodations is such that precludes a person's success in a given discipline/field. For instance, I don't think granting more time on assignments is actually a reasonable accommodation in college, even though it's fairly common. I think those students might just need to take a lesser course load and maybe take summer courses to make up time etc. Most workplaces are deadline based and are going to have a continuous work flow -- people need to develop the skills to manage the expected level of work in their discipline. Accommodations that allow you to work at the roughly the pace/quantity of others (e.g., readers for dyslexia, technology for visual/physical impairment, planning tools for executive functions) are great, but just always getting "extra time" is a recipe for not being prepared for the workplace. |
DP. This is a bigoted takeaway. |
DP. EVERYONE has challenges. Such is life. Expecting accommodations when you're an adult is asinine, and comparing it to people with physical limitations is absurd. But you're probably the kind of person who thinks emotional support animals are the same as someone using a seeing eye dog because they're blind. |
So wrong, I'm actually a Flat Earth follower. |
Because organizations operate on schedules. Other classes need the room. Teachers and students have other classes. Don’t be obtuse. When a professor writes an exam, they want to see if the students learned the concepts they were trying to teach. It is not a race, to see who can read or type the fastest. |
Op, please try to lose the ‘tude ‘
Just put a process in place to email the prof a week before an exam about your accommodations. |
Op. Perhaps each college handles it differently. But we are shown a document that lists the accommodation or accommodations we have when we first get approved to be with student services and the student services sends that to the professor. I also send an email during the first week or second-week requesting accommodations. I have been told several times by student services I don't need to send professors reminders. Student services know me well because I have to get book accommodations and that's not common. Professors have also told me I don't need to send them reminders. Today I had another exam and asked my professor (a different one) if she programmed the extra time and she laughed and said of course you don't have to remind me. I explained I have had trouble in the past with other classes not giving the extra time. She explained how they need to manually adjust the time and can't adjust them all at the start of the semester. I have had professors tell me I am smart and I shouldn't need extra time. In my first year, I didn't register right away because I thought I would be fine. A lot of colleges have programs for students who are the first in their family to finish college. I think colleges are trying to be more accommodating so students graduate. |
Good to know I'm bigoted after all the time I've spent in the special needs world. I have no idea what OPs issue is, but her attitude is the largest disability here. |
And to that second professor’s point— that’s just what work is like. I have colleagues who care a lot about their job, and colleagues who are just okay at it. I know some people are worse at checking their email, so I need to stop by or remind them more frequently. Some times people don’t respond unless I cc their boss. That’s just the way it is, and learning how to manage “up” and manage around personalities to meet my deadline is an important part of my job… WHILE staying polite and professional. So you have an office that grants you the accommodation and tells you it’s your legal right (it is!) say you don’t need to notify them. You have a professor who does it right but does say it’s a manual add that has to happen for EACH adjustment per student. And you have a professor who has proven to be a little prickly in other areas who doesn’t have a track record of getting it right. But the student services officer isn’t the one adjusting the timings. A lot of times, there are rules on how things should be done that just… aren’t done. I think folks have been a little unkind in the comments, but also, a lot of this is what you are likely to encounter in life after college. |
Pp- don’t need to notify them **after the first week** |
College prof here with a digression on academic titles, since OP was concerned about them. (As PPs have noted, this is workplace-only stuff, not the kind of thing that belongs on a Miss-Manners-approved wedding invitation.)
In some parts of the world "Professor" is a title reserved for the most senior and highest-promoted faculty, often in endowed or regius positions. Everyone else has to use "Dr." unless they make it up to that level, which is incredibly rare. And then, confusingly, here in the US, "Professor" is often used for college faculty who do _not_ hold a doctorate. So when I finished my Ph.D. I went from being "Professor Collegeprof" to "Dr. Collegeprof." In some other countries that would have sounded like a massive demotion and been considered an insulting mislabel in the workplace. But here in the US it sounds like the OP's professor finds the doctorate an important part of her title and wants to use it. She has the right to introduce herself that way _in her professional workplace_. (I'm pretty sure that even the world's most famous culinary professionals don't expect their neighbors to call them "Chef" at home.) Nowadays I personally answer to either "Professor Collegeprof" or "Dr. Collegeprof," although my institution defaults to the latter most of the time. And as far as "real" names go, it's an arcane but treasured ritual amongst many doctoral advisors to shake the hand of the candidate immediately after they have successfully defended their dissertation and say something like "Welcome to the profession. You should call me Firstname Collegeprof now." |