Power Outage Montogomery County

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Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t been rescued. They’ll need to shut down the power to the lines first. Can’t believe they’ve been hanging there 3 hours. They must be cold.

Poor them. Just like the people whose houses now have no heat thanks to them knocking out the power. Or the patients that can't go to the MedStar Montgomery ER because it's on "mini disaster" mode.

So I agree that this situation is inconvenient for a lot of people, but....

It is 50 degrees outside. Nobody who would otherwise have heat is freezing. Nobody is unable to get medical treatment.
I could be interpreting you wrong, but are you blaming the people in that plane?

Yes. Occam's razor from the flight path suggests that the pilot screwed up the landing approach and came in too low which took him into a power line. The pilot is easy to find on Google since they released the registration number. He has previous form for crashing a plane in the '90s due to (wait for it) flying too low.

Yeah, he really should have anticipated that outcome when he planned his trip home from Thanksgiving.

You self-centered dolt.

Well how old is this dude now?

In his 60s.

The dude is 65, an arrogant lawyer-type who looks in his Twitter pic like he thinks he's hot shit. Had a 66-year-old Grandma as a passenger.

Well, another lawyer famously crashed his plane into the ocean 20-some years ago. But no one was inconvenienced back then, save for the rescue crews..

I am always amazed when the arrogant “mememmemememeeee” attitudes come out here. I should not be - I should know better. “How DARE this man have an accident! How DARE he inconvenience MY day”

Sure. He made a personal choice to orisue this hobby which resulted in a major power outage and a lost day of school for 160k students and their parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

Yes, eight years ago. Six people lost their lives, three in the home. The home is about a mile away from the new crash site.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/frs-ql/Resources/Files/Accreditation/Accreditation_SOC_Reference_Files/2014-12-08_Six_killed_Small_Plane_Crash_w-fire.pdf

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I hope the stupid man is fined heavily for his consequential leisure choices.

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Anonymous wrote:The airpark was rural when it was built. It no longer is. After this and the crash that killed the Gemmell family a few years ago, I think it's reasonable to have a conversation about whether continuing to host an airpark in that location, with amateur pilots and no ATC routinely overflying houses and infrastructure on the landing path, is a good idea. Obviously we don't know what happened here but 88% of plane crashes overall are due to pilot error so it's not out of line to assume the pilot may have screwed up here and not seen something, particularly in this weather. Hopefully this power outage hasn't killed anyone through losing home medical equipment or traffic lights not working, or hospital operations in the blackout zone being disrupted.

This. The air park needs to go. There’s way too much development around it as this incident clearly demonstrates. Do you think our Moco leaders will actually do it though?

You are more likely to die in a car accident than be hit by a plane from this airpark. There's a freaking car accident on a dangerous curve on East Village avenue every couple of months, but it's so common it's not newsworthy. I live under the flight zone. Everyone who bought their homes knew that the airpark was there (it legally has to be in the paperwork as a disclosure.) Just because there is a newsworthy incident every few years doesn't mean the airpark should go. And if it did? All that would happen is high density development adding traffic to already overcrowded small roads and likely making accidents more common.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the stupid man is fined heavily for his consequential leisure choices.

He did not choose to crash into a power line.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

Award-winning rebuttal.

When a knowledgeable poster weighs in, it just illustrates who clueless most of the opinionated posters are on DCUM, when it comes to anything technical.

Practice humility people.

[Anonymous]

General aviation is much more dangerous than commercial aviation. In part because the pilots (and plane maintenance) are much less regulated.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

Not PP you quoted, but thank you for this explanation!

Is there any news on the progress of the disentanglement? We’ve had power back since 11:30 pm last night. Haven’t noticed any disruptions so far this morning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t been rescued. They’ll need to shut down the power to the lines first. Can’t believe they’ve been hanging there 3 hours. They must be cold.

How inefficient does the power company have to be not to cut power in three hours time?

These were not neighborhood power lines. They were enormous transmission lines. You can’t just cut power to them without affecting ting even more people than are already affected. Are you really this dense and unaware of how the world works?

I think people without power for a few hours, even if there are 100s of thousands, is just fine. Did you know there are such things as generators for those that can afford them? My husband was able to convert a car battery to use to power a few lights and charge devices for emergencies in winter. Consider it practice for when our power grid is hit by the Chinese.

I suspect many people affected by this incident can’t afford them or live in apartments so they can’t use them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just do 2 hours late? Power has been restored, so just have the staff check that is school is functional.
I can't take off work today and have 2 elementary school kids.

Because you have no idea what you are talking about.

The power tower that he crashed into was a point in the power grid for the eastern seaboard including the northeast and the midatlantic. They diverted power from the tower to other towers. It took several hours to ground the tower and surrounding area to ensure that power was dispersed before they could begin rescue. The rescue was performed, but they still have to disentangle the plane from the cables, then the power company will be repairing the tower. Once done, they will have a likely additional power outage to restore the tower into the grid. The current grid diverted around this tower is not long-term sustainable.

When they cut power to restore the grid, it is unknown how long that outage will be. It is also unknown when it will happen, but likely sometime today. The uncertainty of if/when power will go out again and for how long means that the schools cannot plan around such a potential outage. They don't want to have kids in school when there is no power or HVAC. They don't want to have kids in school when phone lines may go down and they can't call for emergency or for parents to come and pick up their children. They don't want kids in school when they may not have power to provide meals for the children (or that food taken out and partially cooked is ruined and has to be discarded. They don't want kids on school buses when whole areas may lose power and traffic lights.

I'm sorry you're so inconvenienced, but the safety of your children is far more important than any work you have. And the schools cannot guarantee children's safety in large numbers with the number of unknowns about the power restoration process.

But by this logic, shouldn't other services be shut down too? So people don't get stranded in elevators, etc. in case the power goes out again? It seems like there should be a targeted shutdown of schools and businesses in the affected area, but let them open in areas that were unaffected.

I mean, whatever, it's one day, but when central office decided to give themselves a vacation too this has a ripple effect on daycares, etc. that follow the MCPS admin office closures.