What majors would you recommend on a purely pragmatic basis?

Anonymous
Article in magazine section of Sunday NY Times talks about how value of a college degree keeps decreasing and how we are all going to be replaced by someone in Asia who works for $1.75/hour. Heck, even lawyers are having their work outsourced. So what would you tell someone to major in, assuming they could reasonably learn the material? I know, it would be great if this was the 1970s and you could major in philosophy and sociology and still get into a corporate training program but that day disappeared with black and white TV's. So what would you recommend?
Anonymous
As an English major, I have honestly been surprised at how well I have done - as have similar (LAS) majors. Managing my career has been easy as long as I have been willing to move for the jobs. My college boyfriend majored in finance, now a CPA, and he probably makes a little more than I do - but not much.
Anonymous
Medicine (doctor, nurse, nurse practitioner), engineering (difficult hard science field unless you plan on getting a PhD), multiple foreign languages (interpreter), a trade (plumbing, mechanic, electrician, elevator repair, husbandry, farming).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Article in magazine section of Sunday NY Times talks about how value of a college degree keeps decreasing and how we are all going to be replaced by someone in Asia who works for $1.75/hour. Heck, even lawyers are having their work outsourced. So what would you tell someone to major in, assuming they could reasonably learn the material? I know, it would be great if this was the 1970s and you could major in philosophy and sociology and still get into a corporate training program but that day disappeared with black and white TV's. So what would you recommend?


STEM, something that produces a product or fixes a problem. Lawyers are still around because the US is built from profiting off of litigation and all of our elected officials are lawyers or pander to them to write laws for more litigation money.
These are undergraduate degrees. If you were to think about including grad degrees, medicine and law would be on top also.

Highest-Earning Majors
Mining and Mineral Engineering
Metallurgical Engineering
Mechanical Engineering
Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Chemical Engineering
Aerospace Engineering
Mathematics and Computer Sciences
Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences and Administration
Petroleum Engineering

Lowest-Earning Majors
Health and Medical Preparatory Programs
Visual and Performing Arts
Communication-Disorders Sciences and Services
Studio Arts
Drama and Theater Arts
Social Work
Human Services and Community Organizations
Theology and Religious Vocations
Early-Childhood Education
Counseling and Psychology

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2073703,00.html#ixzz1erqcTKZe

Best Undergrad College Degrees By Salary - Full List
Starting Median Pay Mid-Career / Median Pay
  • Petroleum Engineering $97,900 / $155,000

    Chemical Engineering $64,500 / $109,000

    Electrical Engineering (EE) $61,300 / $103,000

    Materials Science & Engineering $60,400 / $103,000

    Aerospace Engineering $60,700 / $102,000

    Computer Engineering (CE) $61,800 / $101,000

    Physics $49,800 / $101,000

    Applied Mathematics $52,600 / $98,600

    Computer Science (CS) $56,600 / $97,900

    Nuclear Engineering $65,100 / $97,800

    Biomedical Engineering (BME) $53,800 / $97,800

    Economics $47,300 / $94,700

    Mechanical Engineering (ME) $58,400 / $94,500

    Statistics $49,000 / $93,800

    Industrial Engineering (IE) $57,400 / $93,100

    Civil Engineering (CE) $53,100 / $90,200

    Mathematics $47,000 / $89,900

    Environmental Engineering $51,700 / $88,600

    Management Information Systems (MIS) $51,000 / $88,200

    Software Engineering $54,900 / $87,800

    Finance $46,500 / $87,300

    Government $41,400 / $87,300

    Construction Management $50,200 / $85,200

    Supply Chain Management $50,200 / $84,700

    Biochemistry (BCH) $41,700 / $84,700

    Industrial Design (ID) $44,400 / $84,400

    Electrical Engineering Technology (EET) $55,100 / $84,300

    Food Science $43,300 / $83,700

    International Business $41,600 / $83,700

    Civil Engineering Technology (CET) $46,600 / $83,300

    Geology $45,300 / $83,300

    Computer Information Systems (CIS) $47,900 / $83,100

    Mechanical Engineering Technology (MET) $51,600 / $81,200

    Molecular Biology $40,500 / $81,200

    Chemistry $42,000 / $80,900

    Film Production $41,600 / $80,700

    Political Science (PolySci) $39,900 / $80,100

    Biotechnology $40,800 / $79,900

    International Relations $40,500 / $79,400

    Occupational Health and Safety $46,400 / $79,000

    American Studies $43,400 / $78,600

    Information Technology (IT) $48,300 / $78,500

    Industrial Technology (IT) $48,100 / $78,400

    Information Systems (IS) $48,300 / $78,100

    Telecommunications $37,300 / $78,100

    Urban Planning $41,500 / $78,000

    Accounting $44,700 / $75,700

    Philosophy $39,800 / $75,600

    Zoology $38,000 / $75,200

    Advertising $37,700 / $74,700

    Architecture $41,500 / $74,400

    Marketing & Communications $38,200 / $73,500

    Literature $39,100 / $73,200

    Fashion Design $36,300 / $72,400

    Global & International Studies $37,800 / $72,000

    Biology $37,900 / $71,900

    Environmental Science $40,200 / $71,200

    Linguistics $39,800 / $70,700

    Business $41,000 / $70,500

    Microbiology $38,500 / $70,100

    Nursing $52,700 / $69,300

    History $37,800 / $69,000

    Public Administration $40,400 / $68,900

    Hotel Management $36,100 / $68,700

    Forestry $41,500 / $67,200

    Communications $38,000 / $66,900

    Landscape Architecture $41,900 / $66,700

    Geography $39,600 / $66,700

    Journalism $36,100 / $66,400

    Health Sciences $35,800 / $66,200

    English $37,100 / $65,800

    Public Relations (PR) $35,500 / $65,700

    French $38,400 / $65,500

    Sports Management $35,400 / $65,100

    Liberal Arts $37,800 / $63,200

    Anthropology $35,600 / $63,200

    Human Resources (HR) $37,900 / $62,600

    Organizational Management (OM) $42,300 / $61,900

    Agriculture $38,600 / $61,500

    Psychology $35,000 / $61,300

    Medical Technology $45,100 / $60,900

    Health Care Administration $36,700 / $60,900

    Sociology $36,100 / $60,500

    Radio & Television $35,000 / $60,000

    Hospitality & Tourism $35,900 / $59,500

    Visual Communication $35,600 / $59,000

    Criminal Justice $35,300 / $58,900

    Fine Arts $35,900 / $58,600

    Spanish $36,400 / $58,400

    Interior Design $34,300 / $58,200

    Humanities $34,900 / $57,800

    Horticulture $39,600 / $57,300

    Theater $34,700 / $57,300

    Music $36,800 / $57,200

    Graphic Design $35,600 / $56,500

    Fashion Merchandising $36,800 / $56,300

    Dietetics $41,500 / $56,100

    Education $36,800 / $54,700

    Kinesiology $34,200 / $54,600

    Photography $32,900 / $54,500

    Nutrition $38,600 / $54,400

    Interdisciplinary Studies (IS) $36,300 / $54,400

    Exercise Science $33,100 / $54,400

    Social Science $36,600 / $54,300

    Drama $37,800 / $54,200

    Multimedia and Web Design $40,400 / $53,900

    Animal Science $33,800 / $53,700

    Paralegal/ Law $35,300 / $53,500

    Art History $38,300 / $53,300

    Art $35,300 / $52,400

    Theology $35,600 / $52,000

    Public Health (PH) $35,500 / $51,700

    Athletic Training $34,600 / $50,200

    Religious Studies $32,900 / $49,700

    Recreation & Leisure Studies $34,500 / $49,100

    Special Education $34,300 / $47,800

    Culinary Arts $29,900 / $46,800

    Social Work (SW) $32,200 / $44,300

    Elementary Education $32,400 / $44,000

    Child and Family Studies $29,600 / $40,500
  • Anonymous
    Engineering, hands-down. Physics, perhaps because it's certainly not pragmatic but seems to be sparsely joined. Math.
    Anonymous
    If you are going to do the hard work, get the engineering degree over physics or math. Trust me on that one.
    Anonymous
    I just don't see how it makes sense to tell a humanities-type person to major in engineering just because it's more "practical." People tend not to be very successful when they choose fields they aren't passionate about, even if they are capable of "doing the work." And if you are truly passionate about literature, or philosophy, or music, chances are you'll find a niche (probably in teaching) where your job satisfaction will be much higher than it would be in a job to which you are not well-suited.
    Anonymous
    Accounting always seems to be good, especially for CPAs. Worried that engineers can get outsourced and also compete with H1-B holders (thank you Bill Gates). Interesting that people recommend quantitative fields - engineering, physics, math, even accounting.
    Anonymous
    Agree that passion can lead to success. But you can have your regular secure job during the work week and pursue your passion on the weekend. I know a lot of people who do this. Doctors, lawyers and college professors who are sculptors, musicians, painters, sports enthusiasts and history buffs on the weekend. And many are actually quite artistically talented so it wasn't that they sucked or weren't smart enough to do something else so they had to pursue other jobs.

    I think it's a reality that much of the rest of the world knows that is now coming to light here in the US. We have lived the ideal, the luxury of finding yourself and pursuing your passion. But the reality for much of the rest of the world is to pursue the degree (if you are fortunate enough to be able to go to school) that will provide the most opportunities to get a good, stable job. And I will say that, yes, there are immigrants who are not geniuses and have a hard time in STEM majors but manage to get masters degrees because they know they have no other choice. They have to get it to have some hope for a better life here or go home and continue the cycle of living in poverty. Maybe the passion finds you rather than you finding it.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:Medicine (doctor, nurse, nurse practitioner), engineering (difficult hard science field unless you plan on getting a PhD), multiple foreign languages (interpreter), a trade (plumbing, mechanic, electrician, elevator repair, husbandry, farming).


    not medicine. Medical school is about $75k/year (tuition only) right now and reimbursements are continually shrinking and work hours increasing. I'm a physician and I'd never want my kids to go into medicine.
    Becoming a nurse practitioner/PA is probably a much wiser choice--the education is a fraction of the price and length.
    Anonymous
    Business school....Computer Information Systems. Even if you don't use the degree, it shows competency in IT and competency in the business because you have to take all the business classes as well. It's such a broad base, you can do a lot with it.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:I just don't see how it makes sense to tell a humanities-type person to major in engineering just because it's more "practical." People tend not to be very successful when they choose fields they aren't passionate about, even if they are capable of "doing the work." And if you are truly passionate about literature, or philosophy, or music, chances are you'll find a niche (probably in teaching) where your job satisfaction will be much higher than it would be in a job to which you are not well-suited.


    I agree completely with this. I'm in a technical field, and the people who got degrees (assuming they actually got them) but aren't interested in the material aren't very happy and they don't do particularly well.

    I'd suggest finding a fields that has reasonable or better prospects that they're really jazzed about.
    Anonymous
    If you are only getting a bachelor's degree, I'd suggest engineering. If you plan on getting advanced degrees, there are many to choose from that provide a comfortable salary and job flexibility later in life.

    I do wonder how an M.D. will be impacted if we move toward a more socialized medicine model of health care delivery. ? Will salaries stagnate? I have no idea.

    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:As an English major, I have honestly been surprised at how well I have done - as have similar (LAS) majors. Managing my career has been easy as long as I have been willing to move for the jobs. My college boyfriend majored in finance, now a CPA, and he probably makes a little more than I do - but not much.


    Hello fellow English major! What is your career now?
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:If you are going to do the hard work, get the engineering degree over physics or math. Trust me on that one.

    Agreed. Take it from a physics phd. I am gainfully employed and my career prospects are stable but physics is dead and the engineering fields are way easier and more lucrative.
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