Public Trump Impeachment Hearing Mega Thread

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.


And Trump corruption as well.


No, don't fall for that trap. There is no evidence of Biden corruption. Trump tried to pressure Ukraine into making up evidence, and announcing an investigation that would make it seems as if there might be evidence. But there is *no evidence* - there is PLENTY of evidence about Trump corruption, though, and I look forward to it being explored in depth.


Asking to manufacture the evidence and asking to investigate are two different things. If there are no evidence of any improper behavior by either Bidens, why to worry so much? It would be great for Biden’s campaign to show wrongful allegations, and it will be great for Ukraine to investigate possible foreign corruption. Why Democrats are so opposed to the investigation? If you think Trump improperly requested it, why don’t any of the Democrats or even Biden himself file a proper request?

You sound russian. Da?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are indications of Russian influence. That does not negate Ukrainian influence. Russian influence was investigated and there was no collusion with Trump campaign. That does not mean there was no influence. Ukrainian influence has not been thoroughly investigated, but there are certainly indications of it.


Have you been following the Roger Stone proceedings? Because, *gah* there was coordination between Wikileaks (Russian Government,) Roger Stone (Trump operative) and Trump and his campaign.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.


And Trump corruption as well.


No, don't fall for that trap. There is no evidence of Biden corruption. Trump tried to pressure Ukraine into making up evidence, and announcing an investigation that would make it seems as if there might be evidence. But there is *no evidence* - there is PLENTY of evidence about Trump corruption, though, and I look forward to it being explored in depth.


Asking to manufacture the evidence and asking to investigate are two different things. If there are no evidence of any improper behavior by either Bidens, why to worry so much? It would be great for Biden’s campaign to show wrongful allegations, and it will be great for Ukraine to investigate possible foreign corruption. Why Democrats are so opposed to the investigation? If you think Trump improperly requested it, why don’t any of the Democrats or even Biden himself file a proper request?


Because people who don't wear tinfoil hats know there is no there there. Take yours off already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.

How would that benefit "all Americans"? To expose corruption? You have to be joking. Trump's corruption makes anything Biden did look like child's play.

In any case, I don't care what Biden did several years ago. I care about what Trump is doing as POTUS now. I never liked Biden, still don't really, but Biden is not in Trump's league when it comes to corruption. Trump's corruption is a much bigger deal.


Biden could be as corrupt as fox is implying he is and it still would basically make no difference on whether or not what Trump did was bad.

The whistleblower could be Hunter Biden himself and it STILL wouldn't change the fact that Trump did something bad and impeachable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.




Sure. But why was Trump's interest in Ukraine corruption sooooo narrow? Remember what Kent said about how fighting corruption actually works?


Also, there is no evidence that Trump cared about an actual investigation. He just wanted the announcement of one - specific to Biden.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.


And Trump corruption as well.


No, don't fall for that trap. There is no evidence of Biden corruption. Trump tried to pressure Ukraine into making up evidence, and announcing an investigation that would make it seems as if there might be evidence. But there is *no evidence* - there is PLENTY of evidence about Trump corruption, though, and I look forward to it being explored in depth.


Asking to manufacture the evidence and asking to investigate are two different things. If there are no evidence of any improper behavior by either Bidens, why to worry so much? It would be great for Biden’s campaign to show wrongful allegations, and it will be great for Ukraine to investigate possible foreign corruption. Why Democrats are so opposed to the investigation? If you think Trump improperly requested it, why don’t any of the Democrats or even Biden himself file a proper request?


Ha! You don't even believe that yourself. You are so disingenuous its disgusting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.


Ironically, Manafort is in jail for whatever interference took place in 2016.

To date, there is zero evidence of any corruption on the part of the Bidens. Nepotism? Probably, but let's start with Jared and Ivanka, with Barr's kids and Guiliani's kid, and then let's talk nepotism.


I want Justice Kennedy's kid first.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are indications of Russian influence. That does not negate Ukrainian influence. Russian influence was investigated and there was no collusion with Trump campaign. That does not mean there was no influence. Ukrainian influence has not been thoroughly investigated, but there are certainly indications of it.


I’m going to surmise that the only reason that there was no [b]evidence of collusion[b] between Russia and the Trump Campaign, is because the EVIDENCE THAT EXISTS HAS NOT BEEN ADMITTED in proceedings due to tie in relevancy. Much like Republicans want to bring in a separate issue of Biden/Burisma that does not legally link to the impeachment hearing per the house rules.

No evidence doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. I think Russia hacked the servers, and then tried to bribe both sides. Dem said eff off. GOP said, how much?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.

How would that benefit "all Americans"? To expose corruption? You have to be joking. Trump's corruption makes anything Biden did look like child's play.

In any case, I don't care what Biden did several years ago. I care about what Trump is doing as POTUS now. I never liked Biden, still don't really, but Biden is not in Trump's league when it comes to corruption. Trump's corruption is a much bigger deal.


Biden could be as corrupt as fox is implying he is and it still would basically make no difference on whether or not what Trump did was bad.

[b]The whistleblower could be Hunter Biden himself and it STILL wouldn't change the fact that Trump did something bad and impeachable.
[/b]
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are indications of Russian influence. That does not negate Ukrainian influence. Russian influence was investigated and there was no collusion with Trump campaign. That does not mean there was no influence. Ukrainian influence has not been thoroughly investigated, but there are certainly indications of it.


Have you been following the Roger Stone proceedings? Because, *gah* there was coordination between Wikileaks (Russian Government,) Roger Stone (Trump operative) and Trump and his campaign.


Link Rec?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.


Ironically, Manafort is in jail for whatever interference took place in 2016.

To date, there is zero evidence of any corruption on the part of the Bidens. Nepotism? Probably, but let's start with Jared and Ivanka, with Barr's kids and Guiliani's kid, and then let's talk nepotism.


I want Justice Kennedy's kid first.


Then get the FBI on it -- or should we randomly ask South Africa or Sri Lanka to take care of investigations of our citizens for us? People are going to pull a muscle tryin to make it seek like it was a good and legitimate thing Trump was after here.

Give it up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are indications of Russian influence. That does not negate Ukrainian influence. Russian influence was investigated and there was no collusion with Trump campaign. That does not mean there was no influence. Ukrainian influence has not been thoroughly investigated, but there are certainly indications of it.


Have you been following the Roger Stone proceedings? Because, *gah* there was coordination between Wikileaks (Russian Government,) Roger Stone (Trump operative) and Trump and his campaign.


Link Rec?


About a million on google, but...

https://www.businessinsider.com/roger-stone-convicted-false-statements-witness-tampering-2019-11
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are indications of Russian influence. That does not negate Ukrainian influence. Russian influence was investigated and there was no collusion with Trump campaign. That does not mean there was no influence. Ukrainian influence has not been thoroughly investigated, but there are certainly indications of it.

Is this the Russian line these days, Boris?
Anonymous
When does the 'fun' start again?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Americans would benefit from exploring and exposing Ukrainian interference and any Biden corruption.


And Trump corruption as well.


No, don't fall for that trap. There is no evidence of Biden corruption. Trump tried to pressure Ukraine into making up evidence, and announcing an investigation that would make it seems as if there might be evidence. But there is *no evidence* - there is PLENTY of evidence about Trump corruption, though, and I look forward to it being explored in depth.


Asking to manufacture the evidence and asking to investigate are two different things. If there are no evidence of any improper behavior by either Bidens, why to worry so much? It would be great for Biden’s campaign to show wrongful allegations, and it will be great for Ukraine to investigate possible foreign corruption. Why Democrats are so opposed to the investigation? If you think Trump improperly requested it, why don’t any of the Democrats or even Biden himself file a proper request?


Vlad, are you the best English speaker they could find? Pathetic.
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