DC is dangerous. Again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

By the way, as of today, most categories of crime are lower year to date 2016 vs the same period 2015.

2015 was also good relative to 2014, EXCEPT for homicide. The 2015 homicide number was still nowhere near the 1990s numbers (despite a larger population)

DC has a homicide problem. It does not appear to be going back to the bad old days. Press officials to improve, but keep things in perspective.

Perhaps you did not see the numerous comments regarding how Lanier and company cook the books.

What was that old saying? Lies, damn lies, and Statistics.

But then how do we know there is a crime spike at all? Maybe crime is at an all time low

(I know, I know...anecdata and/or crime "feels" worse)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

By the way, as of today, most categories of crime are lower year to date 2016 vs the same period 2015.

2015 was also good relative to 2014, EXCEPT for homicide. The 2015 homicide number was still nowhere near the 1990s numbers (despite a larger population)

DC has a homicide problem. It does not appear to be going back to the bad old days. Press officials to improve, but keep things in perspective.

You do realize DC is notorious for manipulating it's numbers right?

D.C. seriously under-reports its crime numbers using a variety of types of fraud and deceit.

D.C. has been repeatedly caught engaging in this type of public fraud for decades.

The questions this begs are:

1) what are the ACTUAL higher crime figures? (we only know the numbers are higher; we do not know how much higher), and

2) why are these ongoing government-initiated frauds tolerated year after year in D.C.??

Source for this? When has DC been "repeatedly caught"? (And please point to an actual news story or statement, not another "my grandpa's friend's niece got kicked in the shin and the police didn't take a report")

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is really infuriating the way WHITE PRIVILEDGE plays out in these narratives about crime, suggesting that crime only occurs in urban areas. Far from the truth, there is a lot of crime occurring in white neighborhoods in the 'burbs. During the 1990s it was white college kids that arrived in the night looking for drugs, but when they got busted their Big Daddy Warbucks could bail them out of jail. Whenever, a crime occurs Whites hop on their blogs and talk among themselves about Black guys, crime and "those people" while never looking in their own back yard for all the ish that is stockpiled in their personal lives. If you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones!!!

No one is suggesting that crime only occurs in urban areas. However it is clear from the statistics that violent crime occurs more in urban areas. Not exclusively, but more.

I live in close-in Bethesda, near metro and the high school. We have a lot of car break-ins. Some house break-ins. A fair amount of retail break-ins. Not that many robberies/assaults of people on the streets, which is most people's fear, I think. Do they happen? Sure. But not with nearly the frequency that they do in any area of DC. In part it may be a numbers game. There are a lot more people in DC, out at all hours, therefore both more potential perpetrators and more potential victims. But whatever the cause, it is not a myth that violent crime occurs more in urban areas.

[Anonymous]

heroin is the new crack?

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, the crime situation is beginning to feel like B-A-R-R-Y T-I-M-E again.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, the crime situation is beginning to feel like B-A-R-R-Y T-I-M-E again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is really infuriating the way WHITE PRIVILEDGE plays out in these narratives about crime, suggesting that crime only occurs in urban areas. Far from the truth, there is a lot of crime occurring in white neighborhoods in the 'burbs. During the 1990s it was white college kids that arrived in the night looking for drugs, but when they got busted their Big Daddy Warbucks could bail them out of jail. Whenever, a crime occurs Whites hop on their blogs and talk among themselves about Black guys, crime and "those people" while never looking in their own back yard for all the ish that is stockpiled in their personal lives. If you live in a glass house, don't throw any stones!!!

No one is suggesting that crime only occurs in urban areas. However it is clear from the statistics that violent crime occurs more in urban areas. Not exclusively, but more.

I live in close-in Bethesda, near metro and the high school. We have a lot of car break-ins. Some house break-ins. A fair amount of retail break-ins. Not that many robberies/assaults of people on the streets, which is most people's fear, I think. Do they happen? Sure. But not with nearly the frequency that they do in any area of DC. In part it may be a numbers game. There are a lot more people in DC, out at all hours, therefore both more potential perpetrators and more potential victims. But whatever the cause, it is not a myth that violent crime occurs more in urban areas.

Most of the crime in bethesda is from the lovely DC criminal taking the metro

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, the crime situation is beginning to feel like B-A-R-R-Y T-I-M-E again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not only the violent crimes but the petty annoying crimes. My assistant's car window was broken again this morning and he lives near DuPont. I told him to leave the windows down and leave car empty. Oh and to move to the burbs.

I used to love having my car broken into. It was never the stuff taken that bothered me, it was the hassle of getting broken glass repaired.

I had a co-worker who said she left her car door open to make it easier for the thief to realize she had nothing of value to steal. It was cheaper than replacing broken glass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we recall Lanier?

I wish, but she must have some incriminating information on our CC. Most people know that's how she originally got her job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

By the way, as of today, most categories of crime are lower year to date 2016 vs the same period 2015.

2015 was also good relative to 2014, EXCEPT for homicide. The 2015 homicide number was still nowhere near the 1990s numbers (despite a larger population)

DC has a homicide problem. It does not appear to be going back to the bad old days. Press officials to improve, but keep things in perspective.

You do realize DC is notorious for manipulating it's numbers right?

D.C. seriously under-reports its crime numbers using a variety of types of fraud and deceit.

D.C. has been repeatedly caught engaging in this type of public fraud for decades.

The questions this begs are:

1) what are the ACTUAL higher crime figures? (we only know the numbers are higher; we do not know how much higher), and

2) why are these ongoing government-initiated frauds tolerated year after year in D.C.??

Source for this? When has DC been "repeatedly caught"? (And please point to an actual news story or statement, not another "my grandpa's friend's niece got kicked in the shin and the police didn't take a report")

Hey, if it happens to enough people that means it happens. You might not like anecdotes, but if the people who are supposed to be taking the reports for the stats how do you prove it. My anecdote is that they would not take a report from me, and I wish it was a mere kick in the shin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

By the way, as of today, most categories of crime are lower year to date 2016 vs the same period 2015.

2015 was also good relative to 2014, EXCEPT for homicide. The 2015 homicide number was still nowhere near the 1990s numbers (despite a larger population)

DC has a homicide problem. It does not appear to be going back to the bad old days. Press officials to improve, but keep things in perspective.

You do realize DC is notorious for manipulating it's numbers right?

D.C. seriously under-reports its crime numbers using a variety of types of fraud and deceit.

D.C. has been repeatedly caught engaging in this type of public fraud for decades.

The questions this begs are:

1) what are the ACTUAL higher crime figures? (we only know the numbers are higher; we do not know how much higher), and

2) why are these ongoing government-initiated frauds tolerated year after year in D.C.??

Source for this? When has DC been "repeatedly caught"? (And please point to an actual news story or statement, not another "my grandpa's friend's niece got kicked in the shin and the police didn't take a report")

Here is some light reading for you. This is just a sampling of information that can be found if one wants to hear the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/the-trick-to-dc-police-forces-94percent-closure-rate-for-2011-homicides/2012/01/30/gIQATErbMR_story.html

http://georgetownvoice.com/2012/02/23/mpd%E2%80%99s-bogus-statistics-betray-public-trust/


Article reporting how Lanier manipulates her crime closure rates. If she manipulates the data boosting her effectiveness in closing homicides, one can infer that she has no problem manipulating the data concerning a decrease in crime.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/blog/13066748/human-rights-watch-mpd-officers-blame-intimidate-sex-crime-victims

Here's one where the Human Rights Watch accuse and show data where Lanier made excuses for erroneous data concerning sexual assault victims. HRW accused MPD of misclassifying, failing to investigate, or intimidating victims to dropping their reports. Sound personally familiar in my case.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/04/dc-police-union-says-mayor-is-lying-about-crime-stats/

The people out on the street know what is going on.

http://dcpoliceunion.com/blog/crime-has-decreased-under-chief-cathy-lanier-false

There are other reports. You just have to be open to hearing instead of excusing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is some light reading for you. This is just a sampling of information that can be found if one wants to hear the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/the-trick-to-dc-police-forces-94percent-closure-rate-for-2011-homicides/2012/01/30/gIQATErbMR_story.html

http://georgetownvoice.com/2012/02/23/mpd%E2%80%99s-bogus-statistics-betray-public-trust/


Article reporting how Lanier manipulates her crime closure rates. If she manipulates the data boosting her effectiveness in closing homicides, one can infer that she has no problem manipulating the data concerning a decrease in crime.

You did read the rather extraordinary editor's note in the lead in there, right? The one that essentially disavows the earlier misleading version of the story, and includes the following:

In fact, as the article reported, the department has followed practices consistent with federal crime-data guidelines and relied upon the same methodology used by other major municipal police agencies. The department hasn’t altered the ways it calculates homicide-closure rates since Cathy L. Lanier became chief in 2007, and it discloses its methodology in its annual report.

Oooh, that sneaky Lanier. Continuing the methodology used by her predecessor, following practices consistent with federal crime-data guidelines, and using the same methodology as other major municipal police agencies, all of which is disclosed publicly.

Cunning.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/blog/13066748/human-rights-watch-mpd-officers-blame-intimidate-sex-crime-victims

Here's one where the Human Rights Watch accuse and show data where Lanier made excuses for erroneous data concerning sexual assault victims. HRW accused MPD of misclassifying, failing to investigate, or intimidating victims to dropping their reports. Sound personally familiar in my case.

The allegations that were largely debunked here (Note: not that MPD investigators did not make mistakes or that processes could not be improved, as it sounds you can attest):

http://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/page_content/attachments/Crowell-Moring_Report%20-%20MPD%20and%20HRW.pdf

Remember, these entities, even well-meaning advocacy groups, have agendas which cannot help but affect their claims. Which provides a nice transition to..

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/04/dc-police-union-says-mayor-is-lying-about-crime-stats/

The people out on the street know what is going on.

http://dcpoliceunion.com/blog/crime-has-decreased-under-chief-cathy-lanier-false

The DailyCaller citing union leaders who are orchestrating a no confidence vote on the eve of union elections? Union leaders claiming crime is bad, and that oh by the way, they need more dues paying union members?

I'm shocked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is some light reading for you. This is just a sampling of information that can be found if one wants to hear the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/the-trick-to-dc-police-forces-94percent-closure-rate-for-2011-homicides/2012/01/30/gIQATErbMR_story.html

http://georgetownvoice.com/2012/02/23/mpd%E2%80%99s-bogus-statistics-betray-public-trust/


Article reporting how Lanier manipulates her crime closure rates. If she manipulates the data boosting her effectiveness in closing homicides, one can infer that she has no problem manipulating the data concerning a decrease in crime.

You did read the rather extraordinary editor's note in the lead in there, right? The one that essentially disavows the earlier misleading version of the story, and includes the following:

In fact, as the article reported, the department has followed practices consistent with federal crime-data guidelines and relied upon the same methodology used by other major municipal police agencies. The department hasn’t altered the ways it calculates homicide-closure rates since Cathy L. Lanier became chief in 2007, and it discloses its methodology in its annual report.

Oooh, that sneaky Lanier. Continuing the methodology used by her predecessor, following practices consistent with federal crime-data guidelines, and using the same methodology as other major municipal police agencies, all of which is disclosed publicly.

Cunning.

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/blog/13066748/human-rights-watch-mpd-officers-blame-intimidate-sex-crime-victims

Here's one where the Human Rights Watch accuse and show data where Lanier made excuses for erroneous data concerning sexual assault victims. HRW accused MPD of misclassifying, failing to investigate, or intimidating victims to dropping their reports. Sound personally familiar in my case.

The allegations that were largely debunked here (Note: not that MPD investigators did not make mistakes or that processes could not be improved, as it sounds you can attest):

http://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/page_content/attachments/Crowell-Moring_Report%20-%20MPD%20and%20HRW.pdf

Remember, these entities, even well-meaning advocacy groups, have agendas which cannot help but affect their claims. Which provides a nice transition to..

http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/04/dc-police-union-says-mayor-is-lying-about-crime-stats/

The people out on the street know what is going on.

http://dcpoliceunion.com/blog/crime-has-decreased-under-chief-cathy-lanier-false

The DailyCaller citing union leaders who are orchestrating a no confidence vote on the eve of union elections? Union leaders claiming crime is bad, and that oh by the way, they need more dues paying union members?

I'm shocked.

Several local law enforcement veterans and some criminologists from around the nation said that including older cases produces a misleading impression.

W. Louis Hennessy, a former D.C. police captain who oversaw the homicide unit from 1993 to 1995, called such statistics “entirely unfair.”

Hennessy said D.C. police in the past calculated the closure rate by using only homicides that happened in a particular calendar year. When the closure rate declined in the 1980s, he said, the department switched to using the UCR totals, making it appear that the department was solving more homicides.

“I felt like anytime you could have more than 100 percent, it’s a little bit misleading and deceiving,” said Hennessy, who is now a Maryland District Court judge. “When I came in, I changed it back. If we look like we’re deceiving or being deceitful, how can we, in good faith, ask them [people] to put their lives on the line?


People like to keep on their blinders and the Washington Post editors have been having their personal orgasms for Lanier from the time she was tapped by Lanier. However, her numbers are manipulative and deceiving as stated by many in the LEO community around the country. Just when has the WAPO editorial board know more about crime reporting and stats than the people who actually do it. And it's mighty fine of you to dismiss sexual assault victims and their advocates. I hope you never have to come face to face with having to make such a report and being poo pooed.

[Anonymous]

If we look like we’re deceiving or being deceitful, how can we, in good faith, ask them [people] to put their lives on the line?


BTW, this is the best line of the entire article. And you summarily dismissed the article from the Georgetown Voice. Typical Apologists and Excusers of the Truth.