Michael Jackson: Was he Innocent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He grew up in a 2 bedroom house with 10-11 people. It’s normal that he slept in the same bed as his brothers and continued that routine in hotel rooms and on the road.

You’d be surprised how much childhood routines become desired by adults. He was known for even including Bubbles, the chimp in a crib in his house. He was called wacko Jacko because he was weird. I’m not sure if he was a child molestor. He comes off as asexual to me if anything. A real molestor wouldn’t be so obvious about their love of children because they don’t wanna be discovered. Most molestors operate in the shadows

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Agreed. Particularly that he comes off as asexual.

Yes. He may be asexual. Lisa Marie Presley said he told her he was a virgin at age 35 when they met.

[Anonymous]

May have been*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys realize that co-sleeping is normal in many cultures around the world? People share their beds and bedrooms with kids, aunts, uncles, brothers sisters?

I grew up in Pakistan and I slept on a large mattress with my sister and my father. I was 14 and she was 10!

I have also slept in the same room and bed with my cousin who was 35 while we were all 8-14!

My friend grew up in Russia and slept in the same room with her mom dad and her brother!

Just because someone shares a bed or a bedroom with a friend does not meat automatically that something nefarious is going on!

Michael did not have a childhood as he was a showpony. He didn’t have a normal family or a normal conventional upbringing. When he obtained insane fame and wealth as a young adult he used his money to build himself a park and a fun house. He would buy toys and cool animals. He reconnected with his childhood by hanging out with his friends; older friends like Elizabeth Taylor and friends who were young like Macaulay Culkin and other children. He also hung out with his large family and cousins.

If you look at the big picture and add context it becomes much more easier to understand.

Again, why are you defending a child molester and finding ways to excuse his behavior? This is entirely different from people sleeping with relatives - he literally shared a bed only with pre-pubescent boys who later explained in excruciatingly painful detail what Michael did to them while in bed with them.

In a civilized society, you're guilty of what you're convicted of. He wasn't found guilty so your diatribe is just the result of your deranged mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being a weirdo does NOT make you a predator.

Allegations are NOT convictions.

DP. honestly I think there are a lot of younger millennial and Gen Z on these threads and they seem to have more limited analytical skills. They often dont appreciate context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He grew up in a 2 bedroom house with 10-11 people. It’s normal that he slept in the same bed as his brothers and continued that routine in hotel rooms and on the road.

You’d be surprised how much childhood routines become desired by adults. He was known for even including Bubbles, the chimp in a crib in his house. He was called wacko Jacko because he was weird. I’m not sure if he was a child molestor. He comes off as asexual to me if anything. A real molestor wouldn’t be so obvious about their love of children because they don’t wanna be discovered. Most molestors operate in the shadows

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Agreed. Particularly that he comes off as asexual.

During the Neverland raid, explicit porn was found. The pornography was straight porn.

I don’t think he was asexual but he grew up in an abusive household with a crazy womanizing, gambling, abusive father and a fanatically religious mom who turned a blind eye to everything. Michael and Britney Spears didn’t stand a chance with the childhoods they had

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He grew up in a 2 bedroom house with 10-11 people. It’s normal that he slept in the same bed as his brothers and continued that routine in hotel rooms and on the road.

You’d be surprised how much childhood routines become desired by adults. He was known for even including Bubbles, the chimp in a crib in his house. He was called wacko Jacko because he was weird. I’m not sure if he was a child molestor. He comes off as asexual to me if anything. A real molestor wouldn’t be so obvious about their love of children because they don’t wanna be discovered. Most molestors operate in the shadows

100%

Agreed. Particularly that he comes off as asexual.

During the Neverland raid, explicit porn was found. The pornography was straight porn.

I don’t think he was asexual but he grew up in an abusive household with a crazy womanizing, gambling, abusive father and a fanatically religious mom who turned a blind eye to everything. Michael and Britney Spears didn’t stand a chance with the childhoods they had

Its baffling to me that after the extensive investigations, the acquittal and the absolute lack of any criminalizing evidence people call him a pedo.

Look at the latest accusations by the Cascio family. They are so shady and are grifters. I would be inclined to change my mind if any of his accusers were normal people with credible accounts. It hasn't happened yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys realize that co-sleeping is normal in many cultures around the world? People share their beds and bedrooms with kids, aunts, uncles, brothers sisters?

I grew up in Pakistan and I slept on a large mattress with my sister and my father. I was 14 and she was 10!

I have also slept in the same room and bed with my cousin who was 35 while we were all 8-14!

My friend grew up in Russia and slept in the same room with her mom dad and her brother!

Just because someone shares a bed or a bedroom with a friend does not meat automatically that something nefarious is going on!

Michael did not have a childhood as he was a showpony. He didn’t have a normal family or a normal conventional upbringing. When he obtained insane fame and wealth as a young adult he used his money to build himself a park and a fun house. He would buy toys and cool animals. He reconnected with his childhood by hanging out with his friends; older friends like Elizabeth Taylor and friends who were young like Macaulay Culkin and other children. He also hung out with his large family and cousins.

If you look at the big picture and add context it becomes much more easier to understand.

Again, why are you defending a child molester and finding ways to excuse his behavior? This is entirely different from people sleeping with relatives - he literally shared a bed only with pre-pubescent boys who later explained in excruciatingly painful detail what Michael did to them while in bed with them.

In a civilized society, you're guilty of what you're convicted of. He wasn't found guilty so your diatribe is just the result of your deranged mind.

He also wasn't found innocent. The world can speculate and judge accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys realize that co-sleeping is normal in many cultures around the world? People share their beds and bedrooms with kids, aunts, uncles, brothers sisters?

I grew up in Pakistan and I slept on a large mattress with my sister and my father. I was 14 and she was 10!

I have also slept in the same room and bed with my cousin who was 35 while we were all 8-14!

My friend grew up in Russia and slept in the same room with her mom dad and her brother!

Just because someone shares a bed or a bedroom with a friend does not meat automatically that something nefarious is going on!

Michael did not have a childhood as he was a showpony. He didn’t have a normal family or a normal conventional upbringing. When he obtained insane fame and wealth as a young adult he used his money to build himself a park and a fun house. He would buy toys and cool animals. He reconnected with his childhood by hanging out with his friends; older friends like Elizabeth Taylor and friends who were young like Macaulay Culkin and other children. He also hung out with his large family and cousins.

If you look at the big picture and add context it becomes much more easier to understand.

Again, why are you defending a child molester and finding ways to excuse his behavior? This is entirely different from people sleeping with relatives - he literally shared a bed only with pre-pubescent boys who later explained in excruciatingly painful detail what Michael did to them while in bed with them.

In a civilized society, you're guilty of what you're convicted of. He wasn't found guilty so your diatribe is just the result of your deranged mind.

He also wasn't found innocent. The world can speculate and judge accordingly.

Agree with this. The American legal system makes it extremely difficult for anyone to be found guilty of a crime. I took criminal law with a lawyer who was part of OJ Simpson's legal defense team. The professor outrighted admitted that even if Simpson was guilty, the police botched their job (they saw the glove, but didn't secure the site and the next day, the glove was not there anymore, so they planted one) and that opens up "a reasonable doubt" in the case. Do you also think that Simpson was innocent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m inclined to believe so. Being an oddball doesn’t make you a predator.

He's guilty of being a self-confessed oddball. He's also guilty of being a predator. He admitted to sleeping in the same bed as children as the highest form of love there is. Give me a break. Who does that??? With other people's kids???? Only a pedophile. He is guilty. His new movie and his adoring fans make me sick. What's next, a biopic about Jeffery Epstein that leaves out the young girls?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you guys realize that co-sleeping is normal in many cultures around the world? People share their beds and bedrooms with kids, aunts, uncles, brothers sisters?

I grew up in Pakistan and I slept on a large mattress with my sister and my father. I was 14 and she was 10!

I have also slept in the same room and bed with my cousin who was 35 while we were all 8-14!

My friend grew up in Russia and slept in the same room with her mom dad and her brother!

Just because someone shares a bed or a bedroom with a friend does not meat automatically that something nefarious is going on!

Michael did not have a childhood as he was a showpony. He didn’t have a normal family or a normal conventional upbringing. When he obtained insane fame and wealth as a young adult he used his money to build himself a park and a fun house. He would buy toys and cool animals. He reconnected with his childhood by hanging out with his friends; older friends like Elizabeth Taylor and friends who were young like Macaulay Culkin and other children. He also hung out with his large family and cousins.

If you look at the big picture and add context it becomes much more easier to understand.

Again, why are you defending a child molester and finding ways to excuse his behavior? This is entirely different from people sleeping with relatives - he literally shared a bed only with pre-pubescent boys who later explained in excruciatingly painful detail what Michael did to them while in bed with them.

In a civilized society, you're guilty of what you're convicted of. He wasn't found guilty so your diatribe is just the result of your deranged mind.

He also wasn't found innocent. The world can speculate and judge accordingly.

Agree with this. The American legal system makes it extremely difficult for anyone to be found guilty of a crime. I took criminal law with a lawyer who was part of OJ Simpson's legal defense team. The professor outrighted admitted that even if Simpson was guilty, the police botched their job (they saw the glove, but didn't secure the site and the next day, the glove was not there anymore, so they planted one) and that opens up "a reasonable doubt" in the case. Do you also think that Simpson was innocent?

This is just not accurate

[Anonymous]

Can someone put on their tinfoil hat and tell me about the connection to the Epstein pedo ring? I saw something in passing about how they tried to reel him in and he refused. So they set him up to be accused of pedophilia. This would have seemed so far-fetched a couple of years ago, but now it seems to kinda make sense. Our reality is so much more unhinged than any conspiracy theory.

I was an MJ fan. I am going to see the movie. But I was never a superfan who would feel compelled to make excuses for him. Something about this just never really sat right with me, and I have never been convinced of his guilt. If I was, I could easily go the rest of my life without his music. It would not be fun to listen to if I had icky vibes from him.

[Anonymous]

I just do not get dangerous or evil vibes from him. His soul was pure and sweet; it comes through in his music that feels divinely ordained.

He was not normal; he was an artistic genius.