SAT distribution for top colleges--see how they hoover up the top scorers, leaving crumbs for the rest

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Anonymous wrote:The figures for the number of 1570+ scorers are low.

When the College Board last released data on the number of scorers at a given score in 2015, the SAT was scored out of 2400. Approximately 17,500 scored in the top 1% out of 1.7 million test takers. There are now around 2.4 million test takers.

A 1570 concordance on the 2400 scale is 2360-2370.

There were only 2,500 scorers who achieved a score of 2360 or higher in 2015.

Even with superscoring, there are probably fewer than 7,500 1570+ SAT scorers each year.


I just find this implausible because my kid has a single-sitting 1570 and really doesn’t seem like she’s all that unusual.


The College Board published the numbers. There were 9,203 test takers who scored 2300 or higher in 2015.

https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/sat-percentile-ranks-composite-crit-reading-math-writing-2015.pdf

You have to use the wayback machine as the College Board now hides the 2015 score behind a firewall.


The concordance table published by the College Board indicates a 2300 old SAT is equivalent to a 1560 new (1600) SAT. https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/concordance/previous

https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/sat-percentile-ranks-composite-crit-reading-math-writing-2015.pdf

You have to use the waybackmachine to access it.


What is a waybackmachine? Never heard of this.


It's a way to view a webpage or a version thereof that is no longer on a particular website but was at one point in time if the crawler got to the page. The internet is forever kind of thing. The College Board used to publish their 2015 data showing the exact number of discrete scorers at each 10 point level of the SAT. It now only publishes numbers in large bands, eg, 700-800.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The figures for the number of 1570+ scorers are low.

When the College Board last released data on the number of scorers at a given score in 2015, the SAT was scored out of 2400. Approximately 17,500 scored in the top 1% out of 1.7 million test takers. There are now around 2.4 million test takers.

A 1570 concordance on the 2400 scale is 2360-2370.

There were only 2,500 scorers who achieved a score of 2360 or higher in 2015.

Even with superscoring, there are probably fewer than 7,500 1570+ SAT scorers each year.


I just find this implausible because my kid has a single-sitting 1570 and really doesn’t seem like she’s all that unusual.


The College Board published the numbers. There were 9,203 test takers who scored 2300 or higher in 2015.

https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/sat-percentile-ranks-composite-crit-reading-math-writing-2015.pdf

You have to use the wayback machine as the College Board now hides the 2015 score behind a firewall.


The concordance table published by the College Board indicates a 2300 old SAT is equivalent to a 1560 new (1600) SAT. https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/concordance/previous

https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/sat-percentile-ranks-composite-crit-reading-math-writing-2015.pdf

You have to use the waybackmachine to access it.


What is a waybackmachine? Never heard of this.


It's a way to view a webpage or a version thereof that is no longer on a particular website but was at one point in time if the crawler got to the page. The internet is forever kind of thing. The College Board used to publish their 2015 data showing the exact number of discrete scorers at each 10 point level of the SAT. It now only publishes numbers in large bands, eg, 700-800.
DP - See archive.org
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are no longer unlimited ParentPlus loans available. So if you can’t pay cash, you can no longer count on those loans to pay tuition at a T20.

And student loans actually are part of the financial aid package at many schools.

So the answer is the state flagship (which is already heavily subsidized) plus merit and hopefully honors college.



Patent Plus loans were never unlimited. They were confined to cost of attendance minus financial aid offered.
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Anonymous wrote:For the state flagship, it depends on what state you live in. The ones in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania don't. The ones here in Virginia, maybe Maryland do.


Don’t what?


1550 scorers don't go to their in-state flagships in these states.


Oh! And where are you finding that data? Or are you omniscient?


Look at the CDS of the 75%. 36%, or 1,614 of students submitted an SAT. Of these 403 scored above 1420. Of the 403 who scored above 1420. I doubt more than 45 of these students scoring above 1550 calculated using any type of tail probability/normal approximation.

Connecticut is a high achieving state on the SAT. Its citizens/high scorers eschew UConn.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are no longer unlimited ParentPlus loans available. So if you can’t pay cash, you can no longer count on those loans to pay tuition at a T20.

And student loans actually are part of the financial aid package at many schools.

So the answer is the state flagship (which is already heavily subsidized) plus merit and hopefully honors college.



Patent Plus loans were never unlimited. They were confined to cost of attendance minus financial aid offered.


Well starting next year, the ParentPlus loan is limited to $20k per year up to $65k per student for undergrad. That by itself won’t pay tuition at the Top 20s.

Yes, parents were maxing these loans out to pay cost of attendance. Even parents I would have thought had plenty of money - they said it was for cash flow.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yay! My kid is one of the crumbs ready to be snatched up by the rest.

Props to OP for the rare inclusion of the word “hoover” in a sentence, at least in the US.


There are many international parents on here. It is quite popular


Uh, it’s an American vacuum company founded in 1908 in Ohio. Why do you think it’s use is international?


It every British mystery novel that I’ve read seems to use the term hoovering for vacuuming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yay! My kid is one of the crumbs ready to be snatched up by the rest.

Props to OP for the rare inclusion of the word “hoover” in a sentence, at least in the US.


There are many international parents on here. It is quite popular


Uh, it’s an American vacuum company founded in 1908 in Ohio. Why do you think it’s use is international?


It every British mystery novel that I’ve read seems to use the term hoovering for vacuuming.


But that doesn’t change that the word is based on an American brand vacuum cleaner. It is not a foreign word.
Anonymous
With what happened at UC San Diego:
https://www.uscannenbergmedia.com/2025/11/17/uc-san-diego-finds-1-in-8-incoming-freshmen-performing-below-a-middle-school-math-level/

“The question is, are the UCs interested in and willing to go back to having a standardized test?” Polikoff said. “I’m guessing the answer to that question is no, but if that’s the case, then I think this is a foreseeable consequence of that, right?”


Morgan Scott Polikoff, professor of education at USC Rossier, addressed whether or not he thinks that the UCs will make any changes. Professor Polikoff actually is an expert in the use of standards based teaching and is a major proponent of equity in math. Even he recognizes the validity of SAT's but thinks UCSD won't use SAT's. In the future, there are going to be a lot fewer UCSD's which reject the validity of the SAT and an increasing reliance on it.

I can't imagine that the admissions committees even at the elites aren't aware of and react to the UCSD saga.
Anonymous
On average, there are very large differences in IQ and hours of study per week among different populations in California. If the UC only admitted by scholastic aptitude and performance, the top UC schools would be racially very unrepresentative of the state at large.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On average, there are very large differences in IQ and hours of study per week among different populations in California. If the UC only admitted by scholastic aptitude and performance, the top UC schools would be racially very unrepresentative of the state at large.

Spell it out: if the UC only admitted by scholastic aptitude and performance, the top UC schools would enroll almost no white students, and a lot of people now complaining about how there are too many Black and Hispanic students would find that intolerable.
Anonymous
Genuine question. When discussing scores, are schools using super scores (I presume so)? Similarly, when posters here discuss scores, are you all using kids’ super scores or best single test scores? Or are things all over the map?
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. When discussing scores, are schools using super scores (I presume so)? Similarly, when posters here discuss scores, are you all using kids’ super scores or best single test scores? Or are things all over the map?


Some schools do not use the superscore, like Wisconsin. Most do. You’ll need to check your student’s schools.
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