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Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

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That’s…odd. Last year they were very flexible re: intensified or not. Maybe too many kids did poorly.

Talk to the VP/counselor.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

You should be able to patent place him, per APS policy.

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Anonymous wrote:That’s…odd. Last year they were very flexible re: intensified or not. Maybe too many kids did poorly.

Talk to the VP/counselor.

Agree. This sounds like the teacher must have weighed in because the placement does not sound like it's driven by his scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

You should be able to patent place him, per APS policy.

I wouldn't with those SOL scores

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

They do not consider cogat past pre algebra placement in 6th grade. That is really not a factor in whether your kid can do intensified algebra.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

There are a lot of kids who can work hard and do well in algebra but intensified would be a bit too much for them. A kid who is under the cogat threshold and didn’t get pass advanced on the SOL probably shouldn’t be in intensified.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

Literally she did not give him credit for turning in his work on time. He would do ixl and she would not give him credit for it. I had him start taking screenshots and emailing her with them, and she would not respond to him, and would blow him off in class. It wasn’t just him either— she was essentially targeting half the kids in her class. I started taking pictures of everything he turned in, and emailing her directly, cc’ing the principal and math coach. Still claimed that the work wasn’t being turned in— even if she had stamped or signed it! We spent from December to the end of the year trying to get this resolved. It was such a nightmare because I hate getting involved in these things. The principal knew what was happening, there wasn’t really a need to change the grade because middle school grades don’t matter. The teacher was removed for next year, but my kid still ended up getting literally a zero for homework, which is 10% of their grade (thus the b+).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

They do not consider cogat past pre algebra placement in 6th grade. That is really not a factor in whether your kid can do intensified algebra.

According to the placement letter it was a factor. Not sure if that’s true or if they just put it on there.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

They do not consider cogat past pre algebra placement in 6th grade. That is really not a factor in whether your kid can do intensified algebra.

According to the placement letter it was a factor. Not sure if that’s true or if they just put it on there.

You got a placement letter for algebra vs intensified algebra?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

They do not consider cogat past pre algebra placement in 6th grade. That is really not a factor in whether your kid can do intensified algebra.

According to the placement letter it was a factor. Not sure if that’s true or if they just put it on there.

You got a placement letter for algebra vs intensified algebra?

Everyone does. My kid is in geometry which we knew would be the case and he got one.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is telling your 8th grader that they can't take "honors math"? What school? Are you even in APS? APS doesn't use the term honors math.

Dhms, my kid was moved from intensified algebra to regular algebra (along with a “large number of kids” according to the counselor). 97th percentile on his nwea map, high b+ in prealgebra, 485 on the 8th grade sol. His grade is actually really high if you factor in his teacher — we actually met with the principal about his experience— the teacher didn’t give any credit for homework that was turned in and graded because she just didn’t like him so he essentially got a 100% in the class if you factor that in. The cutoffs in his placement letter say you have to have a cogat of 120+ to be in intensified math. I might be misreading the letter though.

It’s not that big a deal (assuming the class is rigorous enough that he passes the algebra sol), but my kid is devastated. We’ve emailed the school a couple of times so hopefully we can get him moved. Or maybe THEY can explain how he did badly on an iq test in either second or third grade.

Something isn't adding up here. The teacher didn't credit his homework that he turned in just because she didn't like your child? I have to think there is more to the story than this. What aren't you telling us? Were those assignments turned in late or something? If this is really true and they were turned in on time but the teacher didn't credit them, they you should have addressed it with her and then escalated to admin if the teacher did not follow grading policy.

Literally she did not give him credit for turning in his work on time. He would do ixl and she would not give him credit for it. I had him start taking screenshots and emailing her with them, and she would not respond to him, and would blow him off in class. It wasn’t just him either— she was essentially targeting half the kids in her class. I started taking pictures of everything he turned in, and emailing her directly, cc’ing the principal and math coach. Still claimed that the work wasn’t being turned in— even if she had stamped or signed it! We spent from December to the end of the year trying to get this resolved. It was such a nightmare because I hate getting involved in these things. The principal knew what was happening, there wasn’t really a need to change the grade because middle school grades don’t matter. The teacher was removed for next year, but my kid still ended up getting literally a zero for homework, which is 10% of their grade (thus the b+).

That sounds very odd. But there was a reason to change the grade because you are saying the grade is one of the factors for placement right?