The Four Seasons - Netflix TV show

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a notable choice each of the couples with children only had one kid. Did Anne ever have a job? One kid is really just not that big of a heavy lift.

Raising a kid is a lot of work, and hr husband was busy being a master of the universe ad having affairs.

I was annoyed that Kate's "I do everything" was undermined by her ridiculously bad funeral choices and her husband's ability to heroically save her life because he read a book about Napoleon. IRL women are doing everything, and the choice whether you can stay in love with someone is is simultaneously a good guy and of very little practical use

I have one kid. Yes it’s work but also there is really a lot of time in your life for other things too. This is why some people choose to have one kid. It’s not as overwhelming and time consuming. It’s ok to say it out loud.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read the thread to avoid spoilers but I just watched the vassar episode-perfect!

Idk. It seemed corny to me. The play was dumb.

College student writes bad play is as real as it gets.

True, but that play wouldn't be packed, as this was.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read the thread to avoid spoilers but I just watched the vassar episode-perfect!

Idk. It seemed corny to me. The play was dumb.

College student writes bad play is as real as it gets.

True, but that play wouldn't be packed, as this was.

On Family Weekend? It would be packed, at least at the beginning (SNL golden retrievers reference goes here)

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a notable choice each of the couples with children only had one kid. Did Anne ever have a job? One kid is really just not that big of a heavy lift.

Raising a kid is a lot of work, and hr husband was busy being a master of the universe ad having affairs.

I was annoyed that Kate's "I do everything" was undermined by her ridiculously bad funeral choices and her husband's ability to heroically save her life because he read a book about Napoleon. IRL women are doing everything, and the choice whether you can stay in love with someone is is simultaneously a good guy and of very little practical use

I have one kid. Yes it’s work but also there is really a lot of time in your life for other things too. This is why some people choose to have one kid. It’s not as overwhelming and time consuming. It’s ok to say it out loud.

Agreed! I have one and I have always kept up with working out, yoga, reading, meeting up with friends and girls weekends.

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I just watched the movie and I didn't get the friendships in the movies, none of them seemed to like each other much. I felt they all had more redeeming qualities in the show. Also they treated Anne a lot worse in the movie IMO but it made me wonder if it is realistic that they would remain friends with Nick after he left his wife.. I kind of felt they would have sided more with the wife.

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched the movie and I didn't get the friendships in the movies, none of them seemed to like each other much. I felt they all had more redeeming qualities in the show. Also they treated Anne a lot worse in the movie IMO but it made me wonder if it is realistic that they would remain friends with Nick after he left his wife.. I kind of felt they would have sided more with the wife.

I feel like the movie friendships could have been based on the fact that the friends all had a similar economic station in life and had the resources to take lavish trips and dinners together. It was like a group of surface level good time friends.

The one misstep in the movie was Alan Alda's real life daughters when he went to visit college. They were horrendous.

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Today Netflix emailed me to offer an explanation of the end of the series.

Does this mean someone needs one?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a notable choice each of the couples with children only had one kid. Did Anne ever have a job? One kid is really just not that big of a heavy lift.

Raising a kid is a lot of work, and hr husband was busy being a master of the universe ad having affairs.

I was annoyed that Kate's "I do everything" was undermined by her ridiculously bad funeral choices and her husband's ability to heroically save her life because he read a book about Napoleon. IRL women are doing everything, and the choice whether you can stay in love with someone is is simultaneously a good guy and of very little practical use

I thought it was an interesting turn of events. She was so used to doing everything /.being right that she didn't give him any credit and was too overconfident in her instincts. A lot of people overcorrect and get a whiff of humility sometimes

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Anonymous wrote:Alan Alda has a small part in this one.

I was so happy to see that! I rewatched the old one after I finished the new series. So good.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I thought what kept it from being a cliché was he was hiding in his room while the younger folks were celebrating New Year’s and he was playing the same game that ann was playing that drove him crazy.

I thought that was a great call out that he was again just trying to chase and go back to his carefree youth, but as we were shown many times during the movie, when he hurt himself on the island, etc., you can’t go back. You can have temporary moments, but they are fleeting just like your youth was.

Should he have stayed with Ann… Probably not. It just seems like if he was a serial cheater if he got to his mid 50s there probably wasn’t much chance of him learning his lesson. He would have been bogged down with Ginni and the new baby and probably not have been happy. He seemed like a good enough guy that he probably would’ve stepped it up and gone through it all again, but I just don’t think he ever would’ve really been happy.

I think Ann had a real depth to her which they showed - her being the better parent and being able to put her hurt feelings behind her to step up for parents weekend, etc.

But I also think she should’ve stepped up more and gone out of her comfort zone while they were married. I do understand his frustration. As I wrap up my 40s, I can totally see I have some ann tendencies. I totally need to do the same thing. It’s hard. But there’s nothing like a kick in your ass like your husband leaving you to get her to do that. Which is why she started traveling more by herself, putting herself out there with the surfing instructor, even though it didn’t go as planned.

Overall, I was impressed with the complexity of it. Nobody was totally good or totally bad.

Same here! It gave me some pause and made me think. I always feel so tired and it's easy to just veg out when I'm not parenting or working. Hard to reclaim that independent spark of life.

I think people are defensive about Anne because they see themselves in her. Just total inertia. Always watching and sitting while other people do things and I do see more women doing this in mid life than men. Also I think she is not supposed to be 60. They are all early 50s, right?

How was she just sitting doing nothing? She was a great mom, had a beautiful house, welcomed friends frequently and planned an anniversary party for her husband whom she was devoted to. What should she have been doing? Going water skiing?

The things you are listing would not take anyone a lot of time. The kid was in college. Do we have evidence she welcomed friends frequently? Seems like grasping. People are reacting to the fact that she was very physically feeble I think. She seemed much older than the age she was supposed to be.

I agree that they reduced ann to less than they needed to. I think it would’ve been even more compelling story if there was a little bit more sympathy for her - I do think they let her shine post divorce when she was the better parent and clearly able to pull it together in life when Nick was sort of flailing around in deep denial about aging and how to be content.

I liked Ann’s inertia but didn’t buy that she couldn’t get up from the boat. She’s not that old and she’s pretty fit. I also don’t get why they made her look older than the rest of them. She seemed more like mid 60s not mid 50s and that annoyed me. It seemed like they couldn’t trust the audience and had to hit us over the head. “Ann old, doesn’t like to do things. Ginni Young, likes adventure!” Yea we get that.

Which is a huge contrast from how Ann was treated in the original. She basically disappears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read the thread to avoid spoilers but I just watched the vassar episode-perfect!

Idk. It seemed corny to me. The play was dumb.

College student writes bad play is as real as it gets.

True, but that play wouldn't be packed, as this was.

My kid does college theater and it is always packed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today Netflix emailed me to offer an explanation of the end of the series.

Does this mean someone needs one?

lol! Do they settle the question of whether or not Rick knew about the baby?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today Netflix emailed me to offer an explanation of the end of the series.

Does this mean someone needs one?

lol! Do they settle the question of whether or not Rick knew about the baby?

What? What did they say?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today Netflix emailed me to offer an explanation of the end of the series.

Does this mean someone needs one?

lol! Do they settle the question of whether or not Rick knew about the baby?

What? What did they say?

Yes, maybe please post whatever Netflix had to tell you about the end of the series and/or the meaning of life, etc.

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Okay, so I looked for an e-mail like this (different poster) and found it.

It just had a link to this "newsletter."
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/the-four-seasons-ending-explained?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=flow&utm_campaign=The%20Four%20Seasons%20Ending%20Explainer%20-%20Expanded&_kx=FX3HwGJ_QOszBaawGzkXSIB2th_GxcZu7--5sSxdv_A.WwbqJa

Which basically said this:When the creative team dreamed up a vision for how the series would stand on its own while still honoring the original film, they thought about, “What are things that are really, really human-scale that can happen?” said Fey. “And having someone die is something that, the older you get, the more that starts to happen.” Wigfield sees the middle-aged stage of life as the one where you particularly need old friendships who have seen you through your darkest times thus far. “Those are the people that you really need to lean on when things are bad,” she said.