Tysons Corner Casino -- Foregone Conclusion Now?

Anonymous
Earle-Sears has also taken money from Comstock. So we’re screwed either way on the casino issue. https://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/105k-donated-gop-candidate-governor-tysons-casino-backer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


There's no plan to improve the existing road infrastructure to support the casino. Tysons already has a fair bit of congestion which was not alleviated with the addition of metro. Adding a casino isn't going to help.

As for your vice argument, why don't we legalize all drugs? Why do we draw a line with certain drugs and not others? It's because not all drugs and not all vices are equally addictive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


You missed the prostitution scandal with high ranking officials in Tyson’s a few years back apparently. You think it magically went away??!
Anonymous
Also, how many tech, government contractors, and other white collar businesses are colocated with casinos in other areas. I know the building where I worked was next to one with snipers on the roof.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Earle-Sears has also taken money from Comstock. So we’re screwed either way on the casino issue. https://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/105k-donated-gop-candidate-governor-tysons-casino-backer


Really? This was one of the reasons why several “lifelong Dems” in the other threads refused to vote for Spanberger…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


Casinos prey on the poor. Everyone thinks they are going to lure the whales, the high rollers, and with them the top entertainers and restaurants.

No, we are just going to have a bunch of broke seniors trucked in here instead of MGM to gamble their SS checks away out of boredom, and a bunch of gambling addicts pissing away their kids’ college funds. If you want an entertainment venue, build an entertainment value. If it’s not sustainable without cleaning out every person who enters, then don’t build it.
Anonymous
It’s a horrible idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


You are wrong. You either didn’t grow up by a casino or you had a blind eye towards its effects. I grew up by a casino and later moved to another area close to a casino. Didn’t want to but had to for other reasons. Both areas sucked. It doesn’t bring in the type of people that family oriented neighborhoods want, there is more crime, there will be prostitution. Sure there will be more revenue for the state, but the neighborhoods around it will get more problems than they bargained for. The benefits will not outweigh the negatives for the residents and community. It will benefit Richmond, the builders, lobbyists, and politicians the most. I enjoy going to some casinos like Vegas or the big ones for shows they might have, but living around one IS NOT GOOD. No one I know that has ever lived around one liked it. You are the first person I have heard that thinks a neighborhood won’t go to hell. You are wrong, I’m calling you out on that. Prove me wrong with resident testimonials that aren’t paid and not survey links. And if you get a resident saying they like casinos, I’m gonna bet they are a gambler.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


You are wrong. You either didn’t grow up by a casino or you had a blind eye towards its effects. I grew up by a casino and later moved to another area close to a casino. Didn’t want to but had to for other reasons. Both areas sucked. It doesn’t bring in the type of people that family oriented neighborhoods want, there is more crime, there will be prostitution. Sure there will be more revenue for the state, but the neighborhoods around it will get more problems than they bargained for. The benefits will not outweigh the negatives for the residents and community. It will benefit Richmond, the builders, lobbyists, and politicians the most. I enjoy going to some casinos like Vegas or the big ones for shows they might have, but living around one IS NOT GOOD. No one I know that has ever lived around one liked it. You are the first person I have heard that thinks a neighborhood won’t go to hell. You are wrong, I’m calling you out on that. Prove me wrong with resident testimonials that aren’t paid and not survey links. And if you get a resident saying they like casinos, I’m gonna bet they are a gambler.


Tysons already is a hot bed for prostitution (IYKYK)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


Casinos prey on the poor. Everyone thinks they are going to lure the whales, the high rollers, and with them the top entertainers and restaurants.

No, we are just going to have a bunch of broke seniors trucked in here instead of MGM to gamble their SS checks away out of boredom, and a bunch of gambling addicts pissing away their kids’ college funds. If you want an entertainment venue, build an entertainment value. If it’s not sustainable without cleaning out every person who enters, then don’t build it.


This. Nobody needs a few artsy seasonal displays and a couple more mediocre overpriced restaurants in exchange for the misery of others. unlike Vegas that sells itself as a a vacation destination, all of these "residential" casinos are simply bankrupting locals, they are no tourist destinations. Tysons already has plenty of hotels for conferences, 2 huge malls for any festive displays and plenty of space for additional eateries in its mixed use buildings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s a horrible idea.


+ infinity
If this actually goes through, I guess that will be our sign to look for a new place to live.
Anonymous
If the Democrats win, they'll get their casino and they won't care one bit what any of you think about it.

Because all their talk about "democracy" is gaslighting. They're about power and profit, nothing else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Research continues to show that casinos have no or negligible impacts on crime:

https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140717114935.htm

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343820663_Casino_Gambling_Impacts_on_Crime_and_Public_Safety_A_Review_of_30_Years_of_Research


Have you ever been to one? or is this the pro-casino lobbyist


Have I been to a casino? Of course. We had native-run casinos in Minnesota where I grew up. Been to Vegas and New Orleans. I'm not a regular gambler, though I might pop in to play a couple quick rounds of keno if there was a show that I'd be going to.

A casino is just an entertainment venue. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that you build a nice casino/hotel/venue in a place and it turns into Atlantic City. There aren't going to be prostitutes walking around Tyson's. If the argument is that we shouldn't promote gambling because it is an addictive vice, I understand that, but I'm not sure where you draw the line versus other ones. If your argument is that Tyson's will go to hell if someone builds a casino/hotel, that's not an informed opinion.


You have it the wrong way round- only places that are desperate usually want casinos built, because they are desperate for any jobs and for any tourism money coming in.

So you are saying that Tysons is in the same economic straits as West Virginia, PG County, Norfolk VA area or Danville VA?

Why does Tysons "need" a casino? Aren't there enough traffic and jobs there?

I found the casinos I have been too, New Orleans for example, to be super depressing. Filled with older smokers playing slot machines. That's the entertainment you want for younger people in NoVa?
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