Test results came back positive

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Anonymous wrote:New poster and I haven't read all 13 pages, but my DH and I have never been with anyone else in our lives, and a couple of years ago, I had an abnormal pap and positive for HPV. It is rare, but it happened to me.

You think so. You'd be surprised. Many, many people who have sworn 'no way', 'he has zero time', 'he loves me', 'he WAH', 'he's not attractive'...take your pic..guy put it in someone else.

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Let's be really clear about this -- there is a theoretic risk of passing this by something like a shared wet towel, but that his vanishingly rare, if at all.

It has never even been proven that transmission that way can happen.

https://www.uptodate.com/contents/trichomoniasis-clinical-manifestations-and-diagnosis?topicRef=139046&source=see_link#H770851

Microbiology and transmission —
... Humans are the only natural host, and it is the most common nonviral sexually transmitted infection (STI) worldwide [1,5,6]. ...

Trichomoniasis is virtually always sexually transmitted [8]. Although survival on fomites has been reported [9], transmission by fomites has not been directly proven [10]. Females can acquire the disease from both females and males, while males typically acquire the infection from females and do not usually transmit the infection to other males [11-13]. The incubation period is unknown; however, in vitro studies suggest an incubation period of 4 to 28 days in approximately 50 percent of patients [14]. Coexistence of T. vaginalis and bacterial vaginosis (BV) is common; coinfection rates ranging from 20 to 60 to 80 percent have been reported [15,16].

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, OP said it was TV, not HPV

Which isn't even always sexually transmitted.

Given the medical literature on this, I'd love to see an actual case report or medical account of this happening.

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I've always been fascinated by the theoretical risk of pregnancy via sperm surviving in warm water. Is tv similar

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- already talked with my doctor. Talking to another doctor later this week. Only real probability was a recent partner. I don't know why the type of std matters.

It matters because HPV can be in your system for years and then reactivate.

Not really. Usually your body completely clears an hpv infection or you will continue to test positive for it. By “laying dormant,” it means the hpv infection isn’t causing any precancerous cells, not that it’s undetectable. If someone tests negative for hpv and then tests positive, it almost always means they have a new infection.

That is completely wrong.

No, it’s not. As long as the hpv is in your system, even if you have no symptoms of infection and no cellular changes, you will test positive for it. For most people, hpv clears itself COMPLETELY in about two years, but in some people it can last decades. If you tested negative and then test positive a few years later, you have a new infection. FACTS.

No. It does not mean it is a new infection. It can recur years later: the same one.

Not 10 years later though.

Yes, 10 years later. Lag period is not the same as latency.

Alos, Trichomoniasis is NOT like a viral infection such as HPV, which can and does sometimes establish latency.

The incorporation of HPV DNA testing into cervical screening programs has shown that many HPV-positive women are cytologically normal, with HPV-positivity fluctuating throughout life. Such results suggest that papillomaviruses may persist in a latent state after disease clearance, with sporadic recurrence.
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Viral latency is well recognised as a phase in the life cycle of some viruses, where after initial infection, the production of new virus particles ceases, without the eradication of the virus from the body. In these situations, latency is linked to the possibility of future reactivation and renewed virus particle production as the host immune response changes over time. One of the best characterised example of this is Shingles, which is a re-emergence of a productive Varicella Zoster infection of the skin, which can occur many years after the resolution of chicken pox [1,2]. Our current concepts of papillomavirus latency and reactivation have to a large extent been derived from studies carried out in animal infection models, and appear to fit this definition of ‘viral latency’
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It is clear however, that in some situations, the genetic background of the host affects the course of disease following HPV infection, with defects in the EVER genes [34] or CD28 (amongst others [14,35]) predisposing to the proliferation of cutaneous lesions in EV and Tree man syndrome patients, or CXCR4 mutation which contributes to HPV susceptibility in WHIMS individuals [36]. ... with different HPV types having inherently different persistence probabilities that are linked to the genetics and immune status of the host.
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In addition, several studies have shown that HPV positivity can fluctuate over a woman’s lifetime and that the re-occurrence, often after repeated negative HPV tests, shows no apparent correlation with the acquisition of a new sex partner, but can occur in women who are not sexually active at the time of HPV testing, or who are in a stable partner relationship [46]. Given our knowledge of chronic viral infections, and our understanding of the basal cell reservoir where HPV genomes can persist, the simplest explanation is that HPV infections can persist subclinically, and that the levels of HPV DNA at the cervix can sometimes rise above the clinical detection threshold, and can in some individuals, oscillate above and below this threshold throughout life.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666679023000150

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, OP said it was TV, not HPV

Which isn't even always sexually transmitted.

Given the medical literature on this, I'd love to see an actual case report or medical account of this happening.

Me too I figure it's mostly college age students getting at it all day and all night and never showing in between. But what do I know. Or people who don't clean their toys after each time.

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been fascinated by the theoretical risk of pregnancy via sperm surviving in warm water. Is tv similar

No, it lives on a surface (like a towel) then you have sex, he wipes with the towel, go for round 2 and viola, it gets inside you.

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Anonymous wrote:The STD is TV.

Oh dear. I’ve had that when celibate. Had it once when a virgin. It’s not just sexually transmitted.

Do you know how you got it? Please share more as this may save OPs marriage.

I have no idea how I got it. And it was wild. I was a teenager and my mom had to take me to the doctor. It was very embarrassing. Also remember thinking the word trichomoniasis was awful.

Were you swimming frequently in dirty pools? Or remember using dirty wet towels? That is pretty much the only other means of transmission. It also doesn't have to just be PIV....other types of sex also pass it along. I'm sorry but this is just really hard to believe!

No. And my mom and I were really confused too. I was NOT a sexually active 15 year old. It was mortifying.

What sort of sexual activity had you engaged in? Kissing? Touching? Oral?

NONE

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been fascinated by the theoretical risk of pregnancy via sperm surviving in warm water. Is tv similar

No, it lives on a surface (like a towel) then you have sex, he wipes with the towel, go for round 2 and viola, it gets inside you.

It doesn’t live that long in a towel (5-10 min) and one wipe if his stick isn’t passing it. My god.

And who put it on the towel ??? The affair partner that showered there ?

Is he taking other peoples towels at the gym and rubbing it on his D for a good 5 minutes, and even then.

Lmaof as a microbiologist/parasitologist who has done tons of shelf life experiments with bugs.

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When I found out I had genital herpes, I told the doctor that I had been tested many times for STDs and most recently when I had my second child. And I had never had an outbreak.

She told me the standard screenings don't test for herpes because unless you are having an outbreak, the test is really inaccurate and results in mostly false negatives. She said when pregnant, unless the OB sees symptoms, it's not included then either.

She asked if either me or my husband ever had a cold sore or given/received oral sex over the past 20 years? Of course I said yes. She said that's all it takes so don't go reading him the riot act when you get home.

He already new I was having symptoms and I have no reason to suspect him of anything, he didn't act weird or cagey and he's not that good of a liar, so I wasn't worried about cheating. She said it wasn't worth it to test him unless he gets symptoms as well.

She said so many people have it and never even know it. It just sits and waits at the base of your spinal cord. I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means, but I've only had two outbreaks in my entire lfe and they were both about a month after receiving Covid shots. Maybe correlated, maybe not.

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been fascinated by the theoretical risk of pregnancy via sperm surviving in warm water. Is tv similar

No, it lives on a surface (like a towel) then you have sex, he wipes with the towel, go for round 2 and viola, it gets inside you.

It doesn’t live that long in a towel (5-10 min) and one wipe if his stick isn’t passing it. My god.

And who put it on the towel ??? The affair partner that showered there ?

Is he taking other peoples towels at the gym and rubbing it on his D for a good 5 minutes, and even then.

Lmaof as a microbiologist/parasitologist who has done tons of shelf life experiments with bugs.

Just like immaculate conception from sitting on a toilet seat.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly raising a child in this area is so expensive and time consuming and the amount of men available that you'd want around you with a 5 year old are so small. Some woman was just killed meeting up with someone on OLD this week. I would just stay married and not sleep with him anymore. Raise your daughter and just have a platonic relationship. There doesn't seem to be a reason to divorce other than this idea that you could remarry and it's just not worth it with a kid that young. When they are driving age maybe.

This is no way to live.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly raising a child in this area is so expensive and time consuming and the amount of men available that you'd want around you with a 5 year old are so small. Some woman was just killed meeting up with someone on OLD this week. I would just stay married and not sleep with him anymore. Raise your daughter and just have a platonic relationship. There doesn't seem to be a reason to divorce other than this idea that you could remarry and it's just not worth it with a kid that young. When they are driving age maybe.

This is horrible advice. She should not stay with him.

Can she afford not to for another 15 years of her child's life? How about daughter issues with not having a dad around or the teen years when it's just mom and her? She doesn't need to stay with him as a complete married couple with sex, but losing a husband and dad and having no control over raising your daughter half the time or the money in raising and living is no joke.

You have obviously never been betrayed like this. Stop giving advice where you don’t have experience.

That is OP's husband.

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So…. What’s the update?

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I'm OP. I spoke with my OB today who said I likely got it in last 3-6 mos...my PCP on the other hand thinks its possible i could have been asymptomatic for awhile. I think I'm going with OPs assessment since they see it alot more. Planning to broach topic tonight after DC goes to bed. Regardless, good PSA here that this STI exists. Maybe I'm naive, but I've never even heard of it until now.