For those of you who believe that single motherhood is a serious problem that needs to addressed,

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look up how old most Mormon mothers are when they have their first kid (around age 21). Yet their kids excel.


Even the girls?


Yes, the girls go on to be excellent mothers.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lauren Boebert, former teen mom, announces that her 17 year old son is about to be a daddy.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/03/lauren-boebert-rails-against-sex-ed-now-her-teen-son-is-having-a-baby/

Wonder if he'll marry his baby momma?


What a blessing!


He will be 18 in a few weeks and the baby’s mother is 16. The age of consent in CO is 17. She was 15 at the time of conception. There’s no discussion about how he may have committed statutory rape. Boebert’s mother was 18 when B was born and dropped out of high school. Boebert herself was famously a teen mother and dropped out. Most decent people want their children to have better lives. Amazing that this woman can write our laws.


This is why red states don't want to ban child marriage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/11na1xz/us_we_have_to_stop_the_gays_from_converting_our/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look up how old most Mormon mothers are when they have their first kid (around age 21). Yet their kids excel.


Even the girls?


Yes, the girls go on to be excellent mothers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lauren Boebert, former teen mom, announces that her 17 year old son is about to be a daddy.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/03/lauren-boebert-rails-against-sex-ed-now-her-teen-son-is-having-a-baby/

Wonder if he'll marry his baby momma?


What a blessing!


He will be 18 in a few weeks and the baby’s mother is 16. The age of consent in CO is 17. She was 15 at the time of conception. There’s no discussion about how he may have committed statutory rape. Boebert’s mother was 18 when B was born and dropped out of high school. Boebert herself was famously a teen mother and dropped out. Most decent people want their children to have better lives. Amazing that this woman can write our laws.


This is why red states don't want to ban child marriage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/11na1xz/us_we_have_to_stop_the_gays_from_converting_our/


Why do we need to ban something that isn’t happening?
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Anonymous wrote:It's not so much single motherhood. It's absentee fathers.

I contend that so many young men have behavioral issues because they don't have a strong male role model.


Totally agree. Crime and poverty would diminish greatly if family structure and/or family support remained in place.


So many young men have behavioral problems because the developed world is increasingly not a place where men are adapted to thrive. Thus they must resort to misogyny to level and or stay on the playing field. Fatherless households don’t reap the benefits of misogyny; rather they are most punished by the effects of unchecked misogyny.

Misogyny has given us the current policies that at their root believe that if given the chance most deadbeat men want to step up. They just need to be incentivized with feel good social programs which much like anti domestic violence programs just teach them how to evade in a way much less likely to end up with them behind bars. The deadbeat thinks “So I just need to go to this parenting class and the you’ll cut my court ordered child support, my arrears and I show up for a few visits and then when the coast is clear I can go back spending all of my extra cash on Tito’s and trips to Vegas.”

Instead of asking how do we combat single motherhood ask how do we “combat” declare war on deadbeat dads. I say make it prohibitively expensive for men to have children that they don’t want to actively raise. Penalize them monetarily and did they don’t pay, no questions asked throw them in prison and make them work off their debts.

Much like with drunk driving i imagine men would be much more controlled in their beastly needs to do everything to excesses. They are perfectly capable of policing themselves when they don’t like the consequences of failing to do so.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not so much single motherhood. It's absentee fathers.

I contend that so many young men have behavioral issues because they don't have a strong male role model.


Totally agree. Crime and poverty would diminish greatly if family structure and/or family support remained in place.


So many young men have behavioral problems because the developed world is increasingly not a place where men are adapted to thrive. Thus they must resort to misogyny to level and or stay on the playing field. Fatherless households don’t reap the benefits of misogyny; rather they are most punished by the effects of unchecked misogyny.

Misogyny has given us the current policies that at their root believe that if given the chance most deadbeat men want to step up. They just need to be incentivized with feel good social programs which much like anti domestic violence programs just teach them how to evade in a way much less likely to end up with them behind bars. The deadbeat thinks “So I just need to go to this parenting class and the you’ll cut my court ordered child support, my arrears and I show up for a few visits and then when the coast is clear I can go back spending all of my extra cash on Tito’s and trips to Vegas.”

Instead of asking how do we combat single motherhood ask how do we “combat” declare war on deadbeat dads. I say make it prohibitively expensive for men to have children that they don’t want to actively raise. Penalize them monetarily and did they don’t pay, no questions asked throw them in prison and make them work off their debts.

Much like with drunk driving i imagine men would be much more controlled in their beastly needs to do everything to excesses. They are perfectly capable of policing themselves when they don’t like the consequences of failing to do so.


People are turning to gay sex and having vasectomies for hetero sex though. There are thousands of jobs available. For some reason this society is not appealing to them in a way that intrinsically motivates them. Maybe it's just too much money to raise kids? I don't know, but they seem unable to grasp that they can accomplish the basics of being married and having a family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lauren Boebert, former teen mom, announces that her 17 year old son is about to be a daddy.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/03/lauren-boebert-rails-against-sex-ed-now-her-teen-son-is-having-a-baby/

Wonder if he'll marry his baby momma?


What a blessing!


He will be 18 in a few weeks and the baby’s mother is 16. The age of consent in CO is 17. She was 15 at the time of conception. There’s no discussion about how he may have committed statutory rape. Boebert’s mother was 18 when B was born and dropped out of high school. Boebert herself was famously a teen mother and dropped out. Most decent people want their children to have better lives. Amazing that this woman can write our laws.


This is why red states don't want to ban child marriage.
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/11na1xz/us_we_have_to_stop_the_gays_from_converting_our/


Why do we need to ban something that isn’t happening?


Why lie?

300,000 minors were married between 2000 and 2018. Some as young as 10 years old.

https://www.unchainedatlast.org/united-states-child-marriage-problem-study-findings-april-2021/
Anonymous
Poor women in places like India and the Philippines are treated with sympathy by the U.S. media.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Poor women in places like India and the Philippines are treated with sympathy by the U.S. media.


I'll take non sequitur for $200, Alex.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Poor women in places like India and the Philippines are treated with sympathy by the U.S. media.


I'll take non sequitur for $200, Alex.


Why are poor domestic women looked down upon, then?
Anonymous
Nobody bats an eye when Elon Musk, Nick Cannon, Kate Winslet or Kate Hudson have 3 kids with 3 different partners.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Make men pay child support and if they don’t have a job, give them one improving our infrastructure then deduct child support. Do not let men skate. Do not let men skate.


While I completely agree, let me explain the real world policy barrier:

When women have a baby without a spouse, sometimes it’s difficult if not impossible to get them to identify the father on the birth certificate.

Why?

Because the woman knows if the father is equipped to pay or not, and they realize they are better off drawing public assistance when there’s no father in the picture.

When the office of child support knows who the dad is, they go after him when the mom and baby are receiving public assistance. This creates implications that the mother is trying to avoid.

And the cycle repeats itself with different baby daddies.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nobody bats an eye when Elon Musk, Nick Cannon, Kate Winslet or Kate Hudson have 3 kids with 3 different partners.


Because rich people can do whatever they want without involving public assistance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's not so much single motherhood. It's absentee fathers.

I contend that so many young men have behavioral issues because they don't have a strong male role model.


Totally agree. Crime and poverty would diminish greatly if family structure and/or family support remained in place.


So many young men have behavioral problems because the developed world is increasingly not a place where men are adapted to thrive. Thus they must resort to misogyny to level and or stay on the playing field. Fatherless households don’t reap the benefits of misogyny; rather they are most punished by the effects of unchecked misogyny.

Misogyny has given us the current policies that at their root believe that if given the chance most deadbeat men want to step up. They just need to be incentivized with feel good social programs which much like anti domestic violence programs just teach them how to evade in a way much less likely to end up with them behind bars. The deadbeat thinks “So I just need to go to this parenting class and the you’ll cut my court ordered child support, my arrears and I show up for a few visits and then when the coast is clear I can go back spending all of my extra cash on Tito’s and trips to Vegas.”

Instead of asking how do we combat single motherhood ask how do we “combat” declare war on deadbeat dads. I say make it prohibitively expensive for men to have children that they don’t want to actively raise. Penalize them monetarily and did they don’t pay, no questions asked throw them in prison and make them work off their debts.

Much like with drunk driving i imagine men would be much more controlled in their beastly needs to do everything to excesses. They are perfectly capable of policing themselves when they don’t like the consequences of failing to do so.


Forcing parenthood on teens and poor people who aren't prepared for it, aren't financially stable for it, aren't emotionally mature enough for it, isn't going to do anything to improve family values.

Typical right wing response is to just punish them. While at the same time, opposing sex ed, opposing contraceptive, opposing means of preventing pregnancies, opposing the social safety nets that would help provide stability in the event a couple did have an unexpected child and weren't prepared for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody bats an eye when Elon Musk, Nick Cannon, Kate Winslet or Kate Hudson have 3 kids with 3 different partners.


Because rich people can do whatever they want without involving public assistance.


Except people are nasty toward a lot of single mothers regardless of their wealth level. They just assume public assistance is in play.

Also Musk is a tax cheat.
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