King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

It makes sense to YOU, on paper. But Bull Run families likely want to stay at CVHS and WS families likely want to stay at FHS. People overwhelmingly want to stay at their current high schools, across the whole county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

If the most important factor for boundaries is driving distance and not any other consideration? I was not aware that distance was FCPS's number one priority. Someone better tell those Herndon families zoned to Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

If the most important factor for boundaries is driving distance and not any other consideration? I was not aware that distance was FCPS's number one priority. Someone better tell those Herndon families zoned to Langley.

Oh. I think they've been told....

And, the Willow Springs people I know would be happy to move.

[Anonymous]

There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

If the most important factor for boundaries is driving distance and not any other consideration? I was not aware that distance was FCPS's number one priority. Someone better tell those Herndon families zoned to Langley.

Oh. I think they've been told....

And, the Willow Springs people I know would be happy to move.

Lots of WS families have older siblings at FHS and want to stay, I'm sure. Maybe you only know families with small children. MOST people across the county want to stay at their current schools. As someone else pointed out, that was pretty much the only thing almost everyone at the meetings agreed on.

[Anonymous]

I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

Oh for sure. 100%. I mean I'm not going to lie, smart trying to rile up the Poplar Tree crowd and Kathy--- shows a very nuanced understanding of local politics. But very transparent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

No. But, it is desirable. A lot of people being bused to Oakton used to live in Chantilly boundary--and most did not want to move to Oakton because of the distance. Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly, for example. It's far and away the closest and they would still be there if there were room.

But, Bull Run is mostly equidistant. And, there is a neighborhood right next door to CVHS.

It is one thing if there is only a mile difference. But, when the distance rises to the Willow Springs and the Crossfield neighborhoods that go to Oakton, the bus expense enters in. (And, yes, the Langley people, too. Eventually, they won't have a choice because of Tyson's expansion.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

It makes sense to YOU, on paper. But Bull Run families likely want to stay at CVHS and WS families likely want to stay at FHS. People overwhelmingly want to stay at their current high schools, across the whole county.

I think the KAA plan is most likely to succeed if there are the fewest disruptions and moves in the area. No point moving kids here and there unnecessarily, all that does is create more opposition frankly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

Oh for sure. 100%. I mean I'm not going to lie, smart trying to rile up the Poplar Tree crowd and Kathy--- shows a very nuanced understanding of local politics. But very transparent.

You are not a Chantilly parent, or you would know Poplar Tree is not moving. I doubt they are "riled up."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

Oh for sure. 100%. I mean I'm not going to lie, smart trying to rile up the Poplar Tree crowd and Kathy--- shows a very nuanced understanding of local politics. But very transparent.

You are not a Chantilly parent, or you would know Poplar Tree is not moving. I doubt they are "riled up."

Well, she did say she suspected the GF trolls were trying, not that they succeeded. Why so defensive about Poplar Tree? You sound...riled up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

It makes sense to YOU, on paper. But Bull Run families likely want to stay at CVHS and WS families likely want to stay at FHS. People overwhelmingly want to stay at their current high schools, across the whole county.

I think the KAA plan is most likely to succeed if there are the fewest disruptions and moves in the area. No point moving kids here and there unnecessarily, all that does is create more opposition frankly.

I agree. A bunch of Karens sitting in their houses in McLean suggesting moving kids---not their kids, other people's kids--- around like chess pieces to make the map pretty. No need for unnecessary disruptions. Fill KAA up to 1800 or so in a way that makes sense, and then see who is left everywhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

No. But, it is desirable. A lot of people being bused to Oakton used to live in Chantilly boundary--and most did not want to move to Oakton because of the distance. Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly, for example. It's far and away the closest and they would still be there if there were room.

But, Bull Run is mostly equidistant. And, there is a neighborhood right next door to CVHS.

It is one thing if there is only a mile difference. But, when the distance rises to the Willow Springs and the Crossfield neighborhoods that go to Oakton, the bus expense enters in. (And, yes, the Langley people, too. Eventually, they won't have a choice because of Tyson's expansion.)

Again, its not. Many of the BR families are much closer to CVHS. That doesn't matter to you, though, for some reason, even though you claim distance should be one of the most important factors.

[Anonymous]

I just think its interesting how quick people are to move other people's kids around, it is hugely disruptive to move ES from one MS/HS to another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

Oh for sure. 100%. I mean I'm not going to lie, smart trying to rile up the Poplar Tree crowd and Kathy--- shows a very nuanced understanding of local politics. But very transparent.

You are not a Chantilly parent, or you would know Poplar Tree is not moving. I doubt they are "riled up."

Nobody knows anything until we see what the SB is secretly drawing up as far as KAA boundaries. Literally not one thing can be said to be definite. Everything in that area is on the table to create a new HS zone.