So sad for Wisconsin today

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Im just saying democrats murder at a rate astronomical to republicans. Not trying to nit pick.

Actually that is not true either. Most murders are between friends or family/spouses. And that is a nonpartisan crime. But don't let the facts get in the way of your beliefs.

[Anonymous]

True, especially among broken families and high drug/alcohol abuse. Still mostly democrat by far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

I haven't even read your posted article yet, but I'm really disappointed--actually, shocked, but obviously I don't know you other than through your forum and the items you've written--that you would post this comment. The person may be a Republican; but come on, Jeff. Many people who vote Republican--even if most of the time--wouldn't commit a crime like this. There are plenty of politicians, voters, and office holders in this country who think very differently than I do; but I wouldn't make this kind of accusation.

I don't think Jeff was saying that if you are a Republican you kill gays, or that this particular person killed a gay because he is Republican. The point, if I understand, is that blaming Democrats, or union people, or those who oppose the Wisconsin action, is like blaming Republicans for the stoning.

Presumably, if Jeff thinks all Republicans are responsible for the murder, he will tell me I misunderstood, in which case I apologize to you and him.

I appreciate your trying to explain, but you and Jeff are posting additional comments and implications that I never assumed. I don't think Jeff thinks all Republicans are responsible for the murder. I don't think he was saying that if you are a Republican you kill gays, or that this particular person killed a gay because he is Republican. I'm objecting to the posting of a link to a heinous murder--stoning of a gay person-- and then posing the question--"How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?" It's a very offensive association, and I have no doubt others on this forum would be jumping all over this if a different group had been associated with this crime.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
I appreciate your trying to explain, but you and Jeff are posting additional comments and implications that I never assumed. I don't think Jeff thinks all Republicans are responsible for the murder. I don't think he was saying that if you are a Republican you kill gays, or that this particular person killed a gay because he is Republican. I'm objecting to the posting of a link to a heinous murder--stoning of a gay person-- and then posing the question--"How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?" It's a very offensive association, and I have no doubt others on this forum would be jumping all over this if a different group had been associated with this crime.

There is a poster repeatedly arguing that Democrats and violent crime go hand-in-hand. You have not made a single objection to that poster. Those posts existed long before mine, yet you offered not one word in opposition. I would be more concerned about your being offended if it were not so obviously purely partisan in nature.

My post was quite obviously in the context of the other posts regarding Democrats and crime. Only by ignoring that context can you even begin to find offense in my post. But, since you obviously ignored the anti-Democratic posts in the first place, it is not surprising that you ignore them as context as well.

Selected reading leads to selective offense. It's not surprising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that republicans do not issue death threats like this. And if they did it would be the topic of debate for 2 weeks of news cycles. It is funny how quickly democrats broke their own sanctimonious scolding and nagging civility rules. Where's Obama on this outrageous violation of civility?

Really. You believe that? These are just the

http://www.wane.com/dpps/news/national/south/tx-man-arrested-in-obama-death-threats_3745470
http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/88845/man-held-for-death-threats-to-npr-hosts
http://www.necn.com/03/18/11/Latest-Maine-New-Hampshire-and-Vermont-n/landing_nation.html?&blockID=3&apID=09f5bc0b1eb64c3aa35f9944f3fd7fec

those examples dont hold up, neither are GOP / tea party or anything political. Nothing like a direct response to a vote that doesnt go your way and multiple death treats from numerous Union sympethizers. This is unprecedented incivility and criminal behavior.

Well it is a very interesting observation about you, that you do not consider a death threat on the President to be a political issue. Sigh. But since you asked for death threats in response to specific vote that doesn't go your way, I have to dig way way back to 2010...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/health/policy/25health.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8586716.stm
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2726511

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I appreciate your trying to explain, but you and Jeff are posting additional comments and implications that I never assumed. I don't think Jeff thinks all Republicans are responsible for the murder. I don't think he was saying that if you are a Republican you kill gays, or that this particular person killed a gay because he is Republican. I'm objecting to the posting of a link to a heinous murder--stoning of a gay person-- and then posing the question--"How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?" It's a very offensive association, and I have no doubt others on this forum would be jumping all over this if a different group had been associated with this crime.

There is a poster repeatedly arguing that Democrats and violent crime go hand-in-hand. You have not made a single objection to that poster. Those posts existed long before mine, yet you offered not one word in opposition. I would be more concerned about your being offended if it were not so obviously purely partisan in nature.

My post was quite obviously in the context of the other posts regarding Democrats and crime. Only by ignoring that context can you even begin to find offense in my post. But, since you obviously ignored the anti-Democratic posts in the first place, it is not surprising that you ignore them as context as well.

Selected reading leads to selective offense. It's not surprising.

Here's my last comment on this thread because I'm really not trying to be in an argument with you. I enjoy reading the DCUM posts and interacting. I think you operate a great site and like the freedom you offer here for people to discuss, argue, share parenting tips, etc. Jeff, my objection is that you, the forum moderator, would post such a link. I get that there are posters who post ugly, crazy, mean, biased, etc. comments about Democrats and other groups. Some sound unstable. I'm trying to share my thoughts as to why I object to YOUR writing this particular post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that republicans do not issue death threats like this. And if they did it would be the topic of debate for 2 weeks of news cycles. It is funny how quickly democrats broke their own sanctimonious scolding and nagging civility rules. Where's Obama on this outrageous violation of civility?

Really. You believe that? These are just the

http://www.wane.com/dpps/news/national/south/tx-man-arrested-in-obama-death-threats_3745470
http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/88845/man-held-for-death-threats-to-npr-hosts
http://www.necn.com/03/18/11/Latest-Maine-New-Hampshire-and-Vermont-n/landing_nation.html?&blockID=3&apID=09f5bc0b1eb64c3aa35f9944f3fd7fec

those examples dont hold up, neither are GOP / tea party or anything political. Nothing like a direct response to a vote that doesnt go your way and multiple death treats from numerous Union sympethizers. This is unprecedented incivility and criminal behavior.

Well it is a very interesting observation about you, that you do not consider a death threat on the President to be a political issue. Sigh. But since you asked for death threats in response to specific vote that doesn't go your way, I have to dig way way back to 2010...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/health/policy/25health.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8586716.stm
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2726511

none of those are specific death threats like in Wisconsin and the article balances with threats on republicans as well. The Wisconsin death threats are to all of the senators and appears to be organized and specific threats to kill and terrorize families as well. Much worse. Not quite as bad as the stage production about GW Bushes assassination that liberal artists put on but the GOP could never compete with that level of incivility. We are just more civil, loving and hygenic.

[Anonymous]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-mind-set-that-survived-the-triangle-shirtwaist-fire/2011/03/22/ABh20rEB_story.html

[Anonymous]

09:26 you only see what you want to see. Death threats against republicans are an outrage. But for every death threat against a democrat, there in some excuse for why it is not serious.

You are the worst kind of hypocrite and now you have actually put yourself in the position of defending people who make death threats against our government. That is a new low for you.

[Anonymous]

That was for 09:27 not 09:26.

[jsteele]

A Republican Deputy Prosecutor in Indiana has been forced to resign after it was revealed that he had "e-mailed [Scott] Walker's office and recommended that they conduct a 'false flag operation' -- to fake an assault or assassination attempt on Walker in order to discredit the unions and protesters."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/indiana-prosecutor-encouraged-false-flag-assault-on-walker-to-discredit-wisconsin-unions.php

Apparently, the "union thugs" were not thuggish enough so this guy wanted to fake thuggishness.

I wonder what is going on in Indiana. Not long ago, Indiana Deputy Attorney General Jeff Cox was forced to resign after tweeting that protesters in Wisconsin should be dealt with using "live ammunition" and advocating "deadly force."

It seems like the real thugs are not union members, but employees in Indiana's justice system.

[Anonymous]

Crap, well given that, how do we know the other threats weren't phoned in by conservatives attempting to discredit the union?

[Anonymous]

Oddly, I cannot find this story on Foxnews.com I guess Rupert Murdoch has not yet told them what to say about it.

[Anonymous]

90% of registered, convicted violent criminals are democrat. Just not as civil as us superior humans.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:90% of registered, convicted violent criminals are democrat. Just not as civil as us superior humans.

99% of DCUM trolls are Republican.