Massive home addition causes confusion in Fairfax County neighborhood

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

I think you're misunderstanding. The addition is not a 4 bedroom, 2 bath addition. I haven't seen the floor plans, but each floor has a kitchen, bath, and multiple bedrooms. The original home is 4 bedrooms, 2 baths.

^this. The original home was 4 bed/2 bath.

[Anonymous]

County search system https://plus.fairfaxcounty.gov/CitizenAccess/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Enforcement&capID1=REC25&capID2=00000&capID3=02IUG&agencyCode=FFX

enter the address under Enforcement. That shows some complaints directed to LDS which is under site and you have to search again for the address.
All state no violation after review. Under building enter the address to get info - FX County approved this monstrosity! And the estimated cost of work is only $200,000 which includes demolishing the 4bd/2 bath section house kitchen and putting one in the tower.

Schools are Rocky Run/Chantilly so if I was the neighbor I'd sell and buy in a strong HOA. If you read FX County zoning it appears this never should have been approved and the 4210 Marble owner should have then gone to BZA-Board of zoning appeals because on p 359 of this
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/planning-development/sites/planning-development/files/assets/documents/zmod/zmod-adopted-ordinance-footnotes.pdf

4. The total gross floor area resulting from an addition to an existing single-family
detached dwelling may be up to 150 percent of the total gross floor area of the
dwelling that existed at the time of the first expansion request. Thing was 2028 so the addition could be 3042 for total structure size 5070. Plumbing adds 6 toilets, 8 sinks, 6 showers, W/D and estimated cost of work by a plumber is on ly $7000

5. The BZA determines that the proposed addition is in character with the
existing on-site development in terms of the location, height, bulk, and scale of
the existing structure(s) on the lot.
6. The BZA determines that the location, height, bulk, and scale of the proposed
addition is harmonious with the surrounding off-site uses and structures, and
its development preserves existing vegetation and significant trees, as
determined by the Director, characteristic of surrounding off-site uses and
structures.
8. The BZA determines that the proposed addition will not adversely impact the
use and enjoyment of any adjacent property with regard to issues such as
noise, light, air, safety, erosion, and stormwater runoff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m Asian. While this addition may be 100% legal, just don’t agree with doing this to the neighbors (and the neighborhood in general). Really feeling sorry for that woman next door. Sadly this is where HOAs are appreciated.

Another Asian here. Can we not discuss race in this story? It opens the way for xenophobic people to attack us. I am a stickler for harmonious proportions and would never build anything too large for my property: it just doesn't never looks good.

[Anonymous]

^ doesn't ever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

It is indeed hypocritical that rich white ladies want their cheap mani/pedis but don't want to gaze upon the servants quarters.

But these aren't servants' quarters. This is a neighborhood of $800K houses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

It is indeed hypocritical that rich white ladies want their cheap mani/pedis but don't want to gaze upon the servants quarters.

But these aren't servants' quarters. This is a neighborhood of $800K houses.

they arent 800K anymore, once the transients start arriving, cars parked illegally, noise and increase in rodents. this guy will singlehandedly destroy the entire neighborhood and will almost certainly move himself and his wife to a neighborhood that doesnt allow what he built

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

No, your post is the dog whistle. Making up an accusation of racism and inventing a story about white people complaining about Asians over overcrowded conditions. There is a long history of people complaining about overcrowding, including Italian and Irish immigrants in the tenements of NYC back in the day but what you alleging is a gross distortion so you can claim racism! If a white family was building this three floor extension, the outcry would be exactly the same.

This house is an atrocity. County should be sued for failing to do proper due diligence. Neighbor has easily lost hundreds of thousands in house value.

+1
But yelling "racism" about something that clearly is not, is currently the classic way to divert attention to what is really happening.
The man who is building this monstrosity is an absolute swindler and jerk based on HIS actions. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

I think you're misunderstanding. The addition is not a 4 bedroom, 2 bath addition. I haven't seen the floor plans, but each floor has a kitchen, bath, and multiple bedrooms. The original home is 4 bedrooms, 2 baths.

That's an apartment building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

I think you're misunderstanding. The addition is not a 4 bedroom, 2 bath addition. I haven't seen the floor plans, but each floor has a kitchen, bath, and multiple bedrooms. The original home is 4 bedrooms, 2 baths.

That's an apartment building.

Plumbing adds 6 toilets, 8 sinks, 6 showers, so it seems like this is 2 bathrooms, 1 kitchen per floor. Wild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

It is indeed hypocritical that rich white ladies want their cheap mani/pedis but don't want to gaze upon the servants quarters.

But these aren't servants' quarters. This is a neighborhood of $800K houses.

they arent 800K anymore, once the transients start arriving, cars parked illegally, noise and increase in rodents. this guy will singlehandedly destroy the entire neighborhood and will almost certainly move himself and his wife to a neighborhood that doesnt allow what he built

I live in a neighborhood which was recently rezoned to allow multifamily buildings up to five stories within a certain proximity to the metro or bus line. Already, a small home is slated to be demolished and a building planned that will block the sun from adjacent homes. No extra parking is required due to proximity to transit so there will be more traffic and people parking in the neighborhood. It is very concerning and the only question is whether we plan to move now or wait until one of these monstrosities are built next door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

I think you're misunderstanding. The addition is not a 4 bedroom, 2 bath addition. I haven't seen the floor plans, but each floor has a kitchen, bath, and multiple bedrooms. The original home is 4 bedrooms, 2 baths.

That's an apartment building.

Plumbing adds 6 toilets, 8 sinks, 6 showers, so it seems like this is 2 bathrooms, 1 kitchen per floor. Wild.

And it all will flow into the main sewer. There will be a line of overflowing trash cans in front of the house since the owner will be too cheap to pay for extras. Expect more cars to be parked in front of adjacent houses and, of course, more noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homeowner gave an interview to some instagrammer that I can't find now or else I would post it. He said that he started permit process in January, took 7 months to get it, had told his neighbor he was putting on an addition (didn't specify if he told her how big) and everything seemed fine until the third story was started. Once the third story had begun construction the problems started.

He is standing in front of the addition in the driveway and the quality looks awful. I hope that is just the basic beginning because it looks like it will fall apart in the wind.

PP here. I found the interview so am posting insta link below. Another point that seemed strange was that he claims the addition is for his children and their families. But then he also says his son was harassed playing in the yard by someone complaining about the addition. So how old exactly are his kids? And they have families? Doesn’t make sense.

Here is link. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRK7bIRCdgb/?igsh=c3cxdWlyOWhlejF2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homeowner gave an interview to some instagrammer that I can't find now or else I would post it. He said that he started permit process in January, took 7 months to get it, had told his neighbor he was putting on an addition (didn't specify if he told her how big) and everything seemed fine until the third story was started. Once the third story had begun construction the problems started.

He is standing in front of the addition in the driveway and the quality looks awful. I hope that is just the basic beginning because it looks like it will fall apart in the wind.

PP here. I found the interview so am posting insta link below. Another point that seemed strange was that he claims the addition is for his children and their families. But then he also says his son was harassed playing in the yard by someone complaining about the addition. So how old exactly are his kids? And they have families? Doesn’t make sense.

Here is link. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRK7bIRCdgb/?igsh=c3cxdWlyOWhlejF2

PP again. At the end he states the problem now if that the back corner is 7.4 feet from property line when it should be at least 8.5. The front is 8.5 but the back is 7.4. He can be surprised and claim it’s an honest mistake but it’s over a foot too close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And these poor neighbors can’t even sell because no one wants to live in the shadow of a shoddy apartment building in the suburbs.

It’s ugly, but there are plenty of 4 bedroom, 2 bath houses nearby that no one is calling an apartment building.

I’m not Asian, but this feels like dog whistle. White people in the U.S. have been accusing Asians of living in overcrowded conditions since the mid-1800s, even when whites lived in similar density.

It is indeed hypocritical that rich white ladies want their cheap mani/pedis but don't want to gaze upon the servants quarters.

But these aren't servants' quarters. This is a neighborhood of $800K houses.

they arent 800K anymore, once the transients start arriving, cars parked illegally, noise and increase in rodents. this guy will singlehandedly destroy the entire neighborhood and will almost certainly move himself and his wife to a neighborhood that doesnt allow what he built

I live in a neighborhood which was recently rezoned to allow multifamily buildings up to five stories within a certain proximity to the metro or bus line. Already, a small home is slated to be demolished and a building planned that will block the sun from adjacent homes. No extra parking is required due to proximity to transit so there will be more traffic and people parking in the neighborhood. It is very concerning and the only question is whether we plan to move now or wait until one of these monstrosities are built next door.

In Fairfax County?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homeowner gave an interview to some instagrammer that I can't find now or else I would post it. He said that he started permit process in January, took 7 months to get it, had told his neighbor he was putting on an addition (didn't specify if he told her how big) and everything seemed fine until the third story was started. Once the third story had begun construction the problems started.

He is standing in front of the addition in the driveway and the quality looks awful. I hope that is just the basic beginning because it looks like it will fall apart in the wind.

PP here. I found the interview so am posting insta link below. Another point that seemed strange was that he claims the addition is for his children and their families. But then he also says his son was harassed playing in the yard by someone complaining about the addition. So how old exactly are his kids? And they have families? Doesn’t make sense.

Here is link. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRK7bIRCdgb/?igsh=c3cxdWlyOWhlejF2

PP again. At the end he states the problem now if that the back corner is 7.4 feet from property line when it should be at least 8.5. The front is 8.5 but the back is 7.4. He can be surprised and claim it’s an honest mistake but it’s over a foot too close.

I assume the zoning required setback is 8', so the front is 6" more and the back is 6" less, likely because the house is not parallel to the property line. They should have done a property line survey