US News top 50 colleges grouped by region- the south rises!

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

There's no "formal" definition of what states are in what regions. The Census Bureau can define regions for it's purposes, but that doesn't make those regions "facts." That's not any of this works.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

Do you struggle with rigidity in general or just when it comes to the census?

Here is a reasonable grouping that makes sense to people who aren't working for the census bureau:

New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

Do you struggle with rigidity in general or just when it comes to the census?

Here is a reasonable grouping that makes sense to people who aren't working for the census bureau:

New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

I'd add the Minnesota schools to the Midwest.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at average enrollments by region...

T50 Avg Enrollment
Pacific 25,070
Midwest 24,008
South 18,340
Mid-Atlantic 15,277
New England 9,036

T25 Avg Enrollment
Midwest 8,217
Mid-Atlantic 7,416
New England 6,475
South 6,375
Pacific 4,294

Those enrollment numbers are skewed. Massive state schools like Michigan, Texas, Florida, UCLA, Rutgers, Georgia have nothing in common with the New England schools. That's why there should be a private school ranking and then the large, state schools. They have completely different missions.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

Do you struggle with rigidity in general or just when it comes to the census?

Here is a reasonable grouping that makes sense to people who aren't working for the census bureau:

New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

I'd add the Minnesota schools to the Midwest.

This is the top 50 list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at average enrollments by region...

T50 Avg Enrollment
Pacific 25,070
Midwest 24,008
South 18,340
Mid-Atlantic 15,277
New England 9,036

T25 Avg Enrollment
Midwest 8,217
Mid-Atlantic 7,416
New England 6,475
South 6,375
Pacific 4,294

Those enrollment numbers are skewed. Massive state schools like Michigan, Texas, Florida, UCLA, Rutgers, Georgia have nothing in common with the New England schools. That's why there should be a private school ranking and then the large, state schools. They have completely different missions.

Yes, the USNWR T50 is a mix of small (and medium) privates and XL publics.

There are a million "rankings" - I'm sure you can find one that meets your needs.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

Do you struggle with rigidity in general or just when it comes to the census?

Here is a reasonable grouping that makes sense to people who aren't working for the census bureau:

New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

PP here. Do you struggle with facts and prefer to go by your own opinions?
Seriously, I do think your groupings make sense.

[Anonymous]

The federal reserve districts (since 1913) have been official grouping for far long than the current census groupings (1950). How about we go with those? Or maybe the original colonies vs everyone else? Facts are facts, right?

[Anonymous]

From the Census Bureau's own website. The whole thing is interesting but let me call your attention to the second sentence

"The partition of the geographic regions of the United States goes back to the colonial period of American history. By the 18th century, New England, the Middle Atlantic, and the South were agreed to be the major sections of the Atlantic seaboard."

https://www.census.gov/about/history/historical-censuses-and-surveys/census-programs-surveys/geography/regions-and-divisions.html

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

Do you struggle with rigidity in general or just when it comes to the census?

Here is a reasonable grouping that makes sense to people who aren't working for the census bureau:

New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Facts are facts. From Wikipedia:
Historically, the South was defined as all states south of the 18th-century Mason–Dixon line, the Ohio River, and the 36°30′ parallel.[3] Within the South are different subregions such as the Southeast, South Central, Upper South, and Deep South. Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia have become more culturally, economically, and politically aligned in certain aspects with the Northeastern United States and are sometimes identified as part of the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic.[4] The U.S. Census Bureau continues to define all four places as formally being in the South.

Do you struggle with rigidity in general or just when it comes to the census?

Here is a reasonable grouping that makes sense to people who aren't working for the census bureau:

New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

Missing LACs

Lots of rankings out there. This is usnwr national top 50. Which ranking combines both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The federal reserve districts (since 1913) have been official grouping for far long than the current census groupings (1950). How about we go with those? Or maybe the original colonies vs everyone else? Facts are facts, right?

Newer facts are more relevant, right? Like updated history accounts?

[Anonymous]

"...Minnesota schools", "Missing SLACs"
Pay attention to the topic please.

[Anonymous]

California is on a different planet.