But we haven’t been getting Covid yearly. |
Is there any current (as in past year) research on the relative risk of vaccination (myocarditis) vs. COVID specific to teen boys? This was the hot topic years ago with some European countries not recommending the vaccine for that age group, but I am curious about current research given COVID fatalities are less than they used to be (albeit yes, still worse than the flu). There was evidence at the time that Pfizer was less risky than Moderna and that spacing out the two shots helped to mitigate the impact.
Looking for an actual recently published study, not opinions, on the current risk comparison with recent COVID data. Last I found on CDC was published in 2022 and based on 2021 data so I think that risk calculation is now out of date. |
Ugh because they trust their doctor? My doc doesn’t recommend it for my kids either, boys and girl. They’ve been vaxxed and have had Covid already. |
I don't believe anyone would run a properly controlled trial on this at this point, because the US has never shown any interest in seriously studying this issue, and the rest of the world has already decided that the vaccine is not necessary for young people, so to them it's a moot point. |
Everyone with a low immunity should get the vaccine and hopefully the vaccination will work. It doesn’t always. The comment is about adults who should be getting vaccinated and don’t. Coughing and sniveling on public transportation, you can’t get up land move on planes. No thought to anyone but themselves. |
Are you still under the impression that an annual booster prevents infection in anyone? It's not a matter of the vaccine sometimes working and sometimes not, and that people should just get it on the off-chance that it "works" and they might protect someone. That's not the situation with this vaccine, and it's not how decisions about medical interventions should be made, because you always have to balance risks vs. benefits. It is well established that at best, the vaccine raises your antibody titer for a few weeks or months, which will briefly lower your risk of infection. The real purpose of the vaccine has always been to lessen disease severity, but now that everyone has some form of immunity, we don't have evidence that annual boosters provide *further* benefits in this direction, because cellular immunity doesn't wane like antibodies. The reality is that booster or not, you are going to catch Covid (again) at some point. There is no evidence boosted people (or for that matter those who mask in "high risk" situations) catch it less often than others. There also is no evidence that boosted people are less likely to transmit the virus to others. I know this goes against the 2021 messaging which I also believed, but it is now widely accepted (certainly outside the US) that the public health benefit from the vaccine is close to zero. So please stop with the selfishness rants. Others getting boosted has no impact on your individual risk of getting infected. Going out in public when you are actively sick with any virus is a different matter, but sometimes people have no choice. Fortunately, most of the time, most people have immunity against most circulating respiratory viruses, including Covid. That's why you don't see "superspreader" events anymore. Most people don't get sick every time someone coughs next to them. |
Your 2020 bully tactics aren’t working anymore. Never voted for trump and won’t, but nice binary thinking. “The whole vaccine situation” is more than the initial development. Note my family got the first 2 shots, including my 2 low risk kids, as I did believe in the community good in regards to this vaccine (as we believed it would prevent transmission at the time). When it became clear that the capitalist agenda was going to to try to stretch this situation through eternity, I stepped out of it. It’s amusing that some of you are still being manipulated lol. I love that for you. |
I think the number of teens and young men getting boosted is so small it would be difficult to do new research. |
I’m glad you have the courage to ask. You have some homework to do. What are the ingredients of the Covid vaccines? How do they differ from normal vaccines? What are the side effects? |
What did you take for it? |
It has less to do with the vaccine itself than with the different ways in which the flu and Covid mutate. Paul Offit, who is a highly credentialed vaccine expert, has explained this well. Here is a short post on the issue: https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/does-everyone-need-a-yearly-covid "By likening SARS-CoV-2 to influenza, we have created the false perception that healthy young people who have already been vaccinated or naturally infected or both will be protected against severe disease only if they receive the updated vaccine." He also notes, as I have noted before in this thread, the US is now an outlier. Teens don't need Covid boosters, and that is not an anti-vax position, unless you want to call Paul Offit an anti-vaxxer. In which case, no one can help you. |
No, we only get flu shot. |
No my DS and I are both behind at least two Covid boosters. Got the original first two shots + the next couple of boosters but done now for both of us.
Get the flu, all other shots. Not a Trumper at all. I think that covers it. |
Left wing extremist media is still lulling this song to them |
No. We do flu shots but haven't done covid shots (for any of us) since the initial 2 shot series and then one subsequent booster. We have all gotten covid twice since then and it has been extremely mild.
The real reason, for me, that I am not excited about the covid vaccine is that covid isn't seasonal. So, with the flu shot, it only gives about 5 months of protection, but if you take it in October or November it protects you through flu season. Covid is prevalent year round and so it doesn't make sense to me to have guidance to take it with the flu shot. And getting a vaccine every 4 month (that's about the max efficacy of the covid vaccine) seems insane when the actual virus has been very mild for our family multiple times. If they had clear guidance that made sense, I'd be more willing. But as it stands, I don't think there's a consensus within the medical community for how the vaccine should be administered, who should take it, and how frequently. FWIW, I am a super liberal who has never voted for anyone but the bluest candidate in all elections and will continue to do so. |