Lynne Harris: "People complain about Montgomery County Public Schools until they go somewhere else"

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Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


For sure. Look, Harris isn’t perfect, but geez, maybe if the other BOE members would be half as inquisitive as her we’d learn more at these meetings.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.


You need to provide a source if you’re going to say that they ousted McKnight. Otherwise it’s just false.
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Also if people come from a district that does not have so much violence and coverups it can be shocking to see.
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We came from another district and left mcps after 1 year. Would never send a child to mcps ever again.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.


You need to provide a source if you’re going to say that they ousted McKnight. Otherwise it’s just false.


There is no way McKnight would have been ouseted without the approval of at least Silvestre. But I agree with the PP that Harris and Silvestre as Board President and VP probably had a heavy hand in McKnight's ouster.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.


You need to provide a source if you’re going to say that they ousted McKnight. Otherwise it’s just false.


If you actually paid attention to what happens at the school district, you would know exactly who supported McKnight and who didn't, Rita.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


She doesn't mind the complaints. She just hopes people see the whole picture. And if people can't see the good work that many are doing in MCPS, then they should move.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.


You need to provide a source if you’re going to say that they ousted McKnight. Otherwise it’s just false.


McKnight herself said that she was asked to resign by the officers of the board. That's Silvestre and Harris.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


She doesn't mind the complaints. She just hopes people see the whole picture. And if people can't see the good work that many are doing in MCPS, then they should move.


So you see nothing wrong with her tone. Noted. Other people differ.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.


You need to provide a source if you’re going to say that they ousted McKnight. Otherwise it’s just false.


You need to provide a source if you're going to say it's false. Otherwise, with the action coming in closed session, we just don't know, but we do know there was support for her ouster from at least 4 of the 7 (I don't think the student member would get a vote on this action, though they may have had a voice), and reasonable conjecture is that Evans and Wolff, given their earlier support, were not in the majority if there was a 4-3 split. That would leave a 1 in 5 chance, at most, of Harris having been among those seeking to keep McKnight.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was 5-2, or even unanimous after the eventual tally was obvious. We likely will never know. Politics.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


She doesn't mind the complaints. She just hopes people see the whole picture. And if people can't see the good work that many are doing in MCPS, then they should move.


If we look at the clip the PP shared, what "whole picture" should we see?

I'll tell you what I see - outside of the CES programs and the various magnets, kids do not read an assigned novel in English class until high school, and they don't get differentiated English instruction until 11th grade.

Maybe we should ignore that because other things are fine, but as a parent I'm shocked that MCPS thinks it is appropriate for kids to just....not read, and I want my school board leadership to ask hard questions about how and why that decision was made.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


She doesn't mind the complaints. She just hopes people see the whole picture. And if people can't see the good work that many are doing in MCPS, then they should move.


So you see nothing wrong with her tone. Noted. Other people differ.


DP. I’m not commending her for it, but it’s not a dealbreaker either. The other candidates need to give me a reason to vote for them instead. They haven’t yet.
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


She doesn't mind the complaints. She just hopes people see the whole picture. And if people can't see the good work that many are doing in MCPS, then they should move.


If we look at the clip the PP shared, what "whole picture" should we see?

I'll tell you what I see - outside of the CES programs and the various magnets, kids do not read an assigned novel in English class until high school, and they don't get differentiated English instruction until 11th grade.

Maybe we should ignore that because other things are fine, but as a parent I'm shocked that MCPS thinks it is appropriate for kids to just....not read, and I want my school board leadership to ask hard questions about how and why that decision was made.


My two cents- if this issue is important to you (and it should be!) then I would:

a) keep emailing the BOE about this
b) specifically call out Harris’ dismissive tone in your messages to her
c) press the other candidates on this issue and find out what they propose to do about it (and if you could kindly report back and let us know, all the better)
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Anonymous wrote:Lynne Harris has a really nasty, condescending, dismissive attitude toward feedback and criticism about MCPS.

Here she is again, sarcastically mocking parents who tell her they're concerned that their kids aren't reading full novels or writing essays in fifth grade:



Starts at 54:19 where she says, "It's tough times in Montgomery County. Lots of people think they can criticize pretty much everything we do. And one of the things we've been hearing is 'We moved here for the great schools, our experience has been mediocre. For example, in fifth grade, my child wrote one essay the whole year.'"

She does not have the heart of a public servant. She is not humble.


Have you been smoking pot? She is perfectly repesctful and engaged in understanding the new curriculum. This is her doing the work of a public servant.


Yeah those are the kind of questions I want to see BOE members asking MCPS! Too often they don’t but I find Garris is willing to do so. Thanks for sharing PP.


I have no problems with her asking the follow-up questions. I have a problem with her whining and sarcastically mocking the fact that people have complaints about the school system and painting them as unreasonable, which she clearly did here. You can say you don't mind her tone but the tone is there and I don't like it.


I'm not any of the PPs, and in fact I clicked on that link thinking that I would find her asking the difficult question about why our kids are not reading full-length books. I was extending the benefit of the doubt. However, she very much seems to be trying to coach the central office person into a specific answer, and one that makes MCPS look good.

Look, I don't want an adversarial relationship between the central office and the Board of Education, which is why I'm not voting for folks like Hidayat and Mandel. But the Board of Education is the designated oversight body, which means it would be great to see a little bit less chumminess between them, and a little bit more pressing on questions that parents are actually concerned about.


Correct. Harris does not view herself or the BOE's role as an oversight body, but rather she sees herself as one with the system, hence her "us vs. them" defensiveness in her remarks.

If she wants to work for MCPS, she should apply for a job there. The BOE is supposed to be more critical, discerning and objective.


Harris is always the board member asking questions of staff, trying to get more information to make informed decisions. She is a leader in restructuring the school district power structure, so that the BOE is not so dependent on CO staff, who make word-salad responses a fine art, in order to get evidence-based information to advance the school system.


Then why is she upset and indignant that people complain about MCPS?


I guess it depends on the complaint. Not all are valid. Some are kind of crazy even. Overall MCPS does a good job and leaders like Lynne are trying to make it better.


+1. I can only imagine what her inbox is like.


The Harris campaign is working DCUM pretty hard. The current state of MCPS is abysmal no thanks to her apathy. You can try to sugar coat it, but Harris has been on the BOE during some of the systems darkest days (Damascus attack, Magruder shooting and the infamous WaPo article) and hasn’t done much to move the needle on safety, accountability or transparency. And now to disparage parents!? Seriously!? Vote No on Harris!


I'm sure it was Silvestre and Harris who said enough is enough and got rid of McKnight. And Harris started in Dec. 2020, well after the Damascus attack.


You need to provide a source if you’re going to say that they ousted McKnight. Otherwise it’s just false.


You need to provide a source if you're going to say it's false. Otherwise, with the action coming in closed session, we just don't know, but we do know there was support for her ouster from at least 4 of the 7 (I don't think the student member would get a vote on this action, though they may have had a voice), and reasonable conjecture is that Evans and Wolff, given their earlier support, were not in the majority if there was a 4-3 split. That would leave a 1 in 5 chance, at most, of Harris having been among those seeking to keep McKnight.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was 5-2, or even unanimous after the eventual tally was obvious. We likely will never know. Politics.


And that’s the problem- we don’t know. It was all closed door- no transparency or public discussion at all, which then gave McKnight leverage to threaten a lawsuit based on her “great performance”. We need more accountability and transparency from the BOE.
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