Doctors who went to Caribbean medical schools or DOs

[Anonymous]

You are wrong. Only step 1 is pass/fail, and has only been pass/fail for one year. Steps 2&3 are graded with numerical scores. However of these two only the score on step 2 actually has any ability to affect a trajectory since people are already matched when they do step 3.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We spend much time researching a $20 Amazon purchase or where to get our car repaired. I spend much more time researching credentials of anyone providing medical care to me and family members. Yes…I avoid Caribbean docs - and it dies not matter one bit where they completed the residency. Almost everyone I know does the same.

That’s nice, but the best doctor I ever encountered in 50 years went to St. George’s, the worst went to Johns Hopkins.

Yes this thread and PPs who are against Caribbean med graduates is insane. My DH, a graduate of a Caribbean med school is a respected dr who is top in his specialty in our area. He just didn’t get into a US med school.

It is really just rank snobbery and (ironically) an inability to think critically in the judgment of another person’s competence and intelligence. If someone has graduated, passed boards and completed a US residency, what is the problem?

There is a world of difference between passing and excelling. There’s a stigma associated with Caribbean schools whether you like it or not. You can keep working and try to surmount it, but institutions that rely on prestige for their brand are not required to accommodate your wishful thinking.

How does someone “excel, not just pass” pass/fail board exams? I think that you should probably just stay in your lane. Lol.

[Anonymous]

https://www.usmle.org/common-questions/scores

These stats also show, by the way, that the fail rate for grads of non-US schools (“repeaters”) is 2-3x that of US medical school grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are wrong. Only step 1 is pass/fail, and has only been pass/fail for one year. Steps 2&3 are graded with numerical scores. However of these two only the score on step 2 actually has any ability to affect a trajectory since people are already matched when they do step 3.

Step 2 is also now pass/fail, so I guess you are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.usmle.org/common-questions/scores

These stats also show, by the way, that the fail rate for grads of non-US schools (“repeaters”) is 2-3x that of US medical school grads.

And what does that have to do with the discussion of whether to see a doctor who has already passed these exams?

[Anonymous]

My doctor attended Mahatma Ghandi Missions Medical School. Is that any good? Very good doctor. Probably one of the better ones I had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are wrong. Only step 1 is pass/fail, and has only been pass/fail for one year. Steps 2&3 are graded with numerical scores. However of these two only the score on step 2 actually has any ability to affect a trajectory since people are already matched when they do step 3.

Step 2 is also now pass/fail, so I guess you are wrong.

I’ll just wait here while you admit your mistake. 💅🏻

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My doctor attended Mahatma Ghandi Missions Medical School. Is that any good? Very good doctor. Probably one of the better ones I had.

I don’t know. There’s a wide variety of medical schools in India. And so so many people trying to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:We spend much time researching a $20 Amazon purchase or where to get our car repaired. I spend much more time researching credentials of anyone providing medical care to me and family members. Yes…I avoid Caribbean docs - and it dies not matter one bit where they completed the residency. Almost everyone I know does the same.

That’s nice, but the best doctor I ever encountered in 50 years went to St. George’s, the worst went to Johns Hopkins.

Yes this thread and PPs who are against Caribbean med graduates is insane. My DH, a graduate of a Caribbean med school is a respected dr who is top in his specialty in our area. He just didn’t get into a US med school.

Your hubby is late bloomer....how's that for a consolation prize?

Wow, you are a nasty piece of work. Maybe you should see a psychiatrist. Oh, but make sure they are “high performing” and we to a T-5 med school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately the very top academic medical centers take care of this problem for you. They don’t hire graduates of Caribbean schools, or DOs either. Lower tier places will but not the top echelon.

Sorry / not sorry if this offends all the advocates of mediocrity here who think that they know more about high performers in medicine than the top academic medical centers do.

So now DOs are “mediocre?” Wow, who the hell do you think you are? Please tell us what illustrious medical school you graduated from since you are so obsessed with this. You probably aren’t even a doctor, but even if you were, I would rather see a DO anyway.

I don’t think that DOs are inferior clinicians necessarily but there is no question that many fewer of them go on to become successful academic physicians. So it’s a self-fulfilling prophesy on both sides.

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Anonymous wrote:We spend much time researching a $20 Amazon purchase or where to get our car repaired. I spend much more time researching credentials of anyone providing medical care to me and family members. Yes…I avoid Caribbean docs - and it dies not matter one bit where they completed the residency. Almost everyone I know does the same.

That’s nice, but the best doctor I ever encountered in 50 years went to St. George’s, the worst went to Johns Hopkins.

Yes this thread and PPs who are against Caribbean med graduates is insane. My DH, a graduate of a Caribbean med school is a respected dr who is top in his specialty in our area. He just didn’t get into a US med school.

Your hubby is late bloomer....how's that for a consolation prize?

Wow, you are a nasty piece of work. Maybe you should see a psychiatrist. Oh, but make sure they are “high performing” and we to a T-5 med school.

That wasn’t me actually. I’m the one who supplied the factual data you still haven’t acknowledged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:board certified and where residency/fellowship completed ultimately more important.

Wait, what? Aren't all doctors board certified in their specialty?

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Anonymous wrote:board certified and where residency/fellowship completed ultimately more important.

Wait, what? Aren't all doctors board certified in their specialty?

Not necessarily. Some right out of training aren't yet. Some of the older ones failed the test and because of shortages just kept on practicing. There are some who are bad at testing or are not too smart and take multiple attempts to pass.

[Anonymous]

Stop with the med school snobbery, if your doctor is board carted. I'm in healthcare (not a doc). I am a snob when it comes to board certs. They are good in my book then. Board certs is public to check online. Forget the website but you can Google it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are wrong. Only step 1 is pass/fail, and has only been pass/fail for one year. Steps 2&3 are graded with numerical scores. However of these two only the score on step 2 actually has any ability to affect a trajectory since people are already matched when they do step 3.

Step 2 is also now pass/fail, so I guess you are wrong.

Step 2 is not pass fail!!