VA residents - how do you know if UVA is the right fit?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do folks worry about fit before even getting accepted? And if kid doesn’t get accepted or doesn’t have the stats, and the excuse is “the school was not a good fit”. Get accepted first then actually go visit the school and attend some live classes.

This precisely. But EA not ED if you are unsure, obviously. But OP sounds pretty new to all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:The DCUM college forum has been taken over by our grandmothers. All the talk about drinking is laughable. Kids drink in college. Period. They always have. UVA is no different.

Do they do big time coke at all colleges?

The schools with big social scenes have the same amount of drinking and drugs.

Do you have a cite for this claim?

DP here. What is your source that only UVA students use drugs?

Cite where that claim was made. Then cite the drug use is the same at all big colleges.

I think YOU on are drugs.

You must not have a cite. At least we know you were making shit up.

No one needs a cite that most large colleges (and plenty of the small ones too) are going to have some kids using alcohol and drugs. You are the one trying to claim otherwise.

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I think you compare the stats of what you and he would like to have in a college. Decide what is most important. Besides that, it’s a feel from the visit. It’s not uncommon to hear about transfers if the first semester in college if it wasn’t a fit.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do folks worry about fit before even getting accepted? And if kid doesn’t get accepted or doesn’t have the stats, and the excuse is “the school was not a good fit”. Get accepted first then actually go visit the school and attend some live classes.

They worry about fit when talking about ED. If you get in, you are going so you better feel comfortable with the school environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years.

That sounds freaking miserable. Why do this to yourself?

Means to an end.

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Much smarter to go to a good school, even if it's not the "top fit" and graduate debt free (or minimal debt) than spend the next 10 years paying back massive debt. That is literally what most kids attending college do---they attend where they can afford, which is often in-state at the best option their state offers and they can gain admission to

But why can’t students look at options that cost about the same as UVA if they really just don’t like UVA?

My friend’s daughter just wanted to get out of VA and applied to state flagships and similar size schools elsewhere and the cost after merit was very similar.

Who said they can't?

The people who think you should just ignore fit and be forced to go somewhere because mommy and daddy deem it your best choice

Saying you should go in-state or find merit does not mean "ignoring fit" (which is way over-hyped anyway.)

you're still using the argument that fit is overblown, when the original post I objected to was "Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years."

I think in the end, this kid doesn't like UVA. Then kid doesn't need to apply there. Maybe W&M or Tech would be better if it HAS to be an in-state school.

I know plenty of kids who went to Pitt or OH State or UMass or the like with merit when they didn't like their VA choices/needed out, and they were perfectly happy with their choices.

W&M is definitely a better fit if your child is one of the DMV “introvert” types. You know what I mean.

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if you worry about fit for ED .. then don't apply ED ... easy peasy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:if you worry about fit for ED .. then don't apply ED ... easy peasy!

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If you’re not sure, just don’t do ED. You can worry about it after you get in.

Also, it’s strange that people bash the party scene at UVA, because that’s pretty much the scene at most state schools and some private universities, not something exclusive to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:if you worry about fit for ED .. then don't apply ED ... easy peasy!

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If you’re not sure, just don’t do ED. You can worry about it after you get in.

Also, it’s strange that people bash the party scene at UVA, because that’s pretty much the scene at most state schools and some private universities, not something exclusive to UVA.

HA - just another thing UVA boosters will say they are better at!?

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I mean, "we call ourselves Wahoos because that's a fish that drinks twice its weight every day" was a thing UVA students said even 30 years ago. They've been proud of their party culture for a while now, and far more than any other school my kids toured, or that I toured when I was looking at schools back in the day. I don't believe all students at UVA are into the party scene, but I also think it's disingenuous to deny that it's a part of the UVA brand that a lot of students lean into.

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Anonymous wrote:if you worry about fit for ED .. then don't apply ED ... easy peasy!

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If you’re not sure, just don’t do ED. You can worry about it after you get in.

Also, it’s strange that people bash the party scene at UVA, because that’s pretty much the scene at most state schools and some private universities, not something exclusive to UVA.

HA - just another thing UVA boosters will say they are better at!?

You are free to dislike UVA. But why are you so obsessed with disliking it? I dislike olives. But I don’t need to obsessively post about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years.

That sounds freaking miserable. Why do this to yourself?

Means to an end.

+1

Much smarter to go to a good school, even if it's not the "top fit" and graduate debt free (or minimal debt) than spend the next 10 years paying back massive debt. That is literally what most kids attending college do---they attend where they can afford, which is often in-state at the best option their state offers and they can gain admission to

But why can’t students look at options that cost about the same as UVA if they really just don’t like UVA?

My friend’s daughter just wanted to get out of VA and applied to state flagships and similar size schools elsewhere and the cost after merit was very similar.

Who said they can't?

The people who think you should just ignore fit and be forced to go somewhere because mommy and daddy deem it your best choice

Saying you should go in-state or find merit does not mean "ignoring fit" (which is way over-hyped anyway.)

you're still using the argument that fit is overblown, when the original post I objected to was "Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years."

I think in the end, this kid doesn't like UVA. Then kid doesn't need to apply there. Maybe W&M or Tech would be better if it HAS to be an in-state school.

I know plenty of kids who went to Pitt or OH State or UMass or the like with merit when they didn't like their VA choices/needed out, and they were perfectly happy with their choices.

W&M is definitely a better fit if your child is one of the DMV “introvert” types. You know what I mean.

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Why do UVA boosters have to attack every other school in the process of talking about what makes UVA great?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, "we call ourselves Wahoos because that's a fish that drinks twice its weight every day" was a thing UVA students said even 30 years ago. They've been proud of their party culture for a while now, and far more than any other school my kids toured, or that I toured when I was looking at schools back in the day. I don't believe all students at UVA are into the party scene, but I also think it's disingenuous to deny that it's a part of the UVA brand that a lot of students lean into.

uh, no, you are mistaken. A drunken fish is not the historical background of the term Wahoo: https://www.virginia.edu/about-uva/#:~:text=In%20the%201890s%2C%20fans%20of,students%20and%20find%20voice%20in

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Anonymous wrote:Why do UVA boosters have to attack every other school in the process of talking about what makes UVA great?

No one did that on this thread. UVA has been under attack the entire thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, "we call ourselves Wahoos because that's a fish that drinks twice its weight every day" was a thing UVA students said even 30 years ago. They've been proud of their party culture for a while now, and far more than any other school my kids toured, or that I toured when I was looking at schools back in the day. I don't believe all students at UVA are into the party scene, but I also think it's disingenuous to deny that it's a part of the UVA brand that a lot of students lean into.

Yep, my kid - who didn't go to UVA but has classmates who did - said "UVA is a school for smart kids who like to party"