So many friends on GLPs

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish we knew how we got here. Maybe these drugs can drastically improve the health of more well to do Americans but they were not needed 50 years ago. What did we do to our food and lifestyle that drug companies get this boon?

There is obesity and extreme weight due to overconsumption of junk, our horrible food supply, and the use of glp to really help counterbalance all this.

But I think the middle aged women who are 15lbs overweight now were 15lbs overweight in the 50s too, in the 19th century…we just don’t have pics in fashion mags showing us these women, but i certainly have these pics of the women in my family, as many others do: women who worked hard and ate simple foods but were not thin and gained weight in peri. So is the solution to try and conform to the new standards thanks to glp, try with great effort to lose weight other ways, or just accept some weight gain while not neglecting general health? I’m struggling with that myself. So much of it is society and misogyny at play and it’s both hard to ignore and shitty on some level to cater to.

I agree with this. I think this highlights the hormonal nature of this weight gain and how the glps are helpful with that. I only started a few weeks ago and I am tracking my eating now as I have done for years - I am eating literally exactly the same as I was before (very healthily and in the 1200-1500 range) and now I am dropping a couple of pounds a week. My body was just holding onto it all before and now it is not. I am excited that I am finally on the road to losing these extra 20lb! And for me, no side effects at all.

Isn’t that an unusual response, though? For most people it curbs appetite and thus reduces overall calorie intake?

DP - Those two things are not mutually exclusive. And no, it is not unusual, my experience was also quite similar. Insulin resistance is a real thing.

I’m not following. The first PP said she is eating literally exactly the same. How is that not mutually exclusive with reducing calories?

Have you ever heard of somebody taking a drug like prednisone and eating the exact same food but gaining weight?

No, because steroids increase fluid retention and appetite. People actually eat more.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish we knew how we got here. Maybe these drugs can drastically improve the health of more well to do Americans but they were not needed 50 years ago. What did we do to our food and lifestyle that drug companies get this boon?

There is obesity and extreme weight due to overconsumption of junk, our horrible food supply, and the use of glp to really help counterbalance all this.

But I think the middle aged women who are 15lbs overweight now were 15lbs overweight in the 50s too, in the 19th century…we just don’t have pics in fashion mags showing us these women, but i certainly have these pics of the women in my family, as many others do: women who worked hard and ate simple foods but were not thin and gained weight in peri. So is the solution to try and conform to the new standards thanks to glp, try with great effort to lose weight other ways, or just accept some weight gain while not neglecting general health? I’m struggling with that myself. So much of it is society and misogyny at play and it’s both hard to ignore and shitty on some level to cater to.

I agree with this. I think this highlights the hormonal nature of this weight gain and how the glps are helpful with that. I only started a few weeks ago and I am tracking my eating now as I have done for years - I am eating literally exactly the same as I was before (very healthily and in the 1200-1500 range) and now I am dropping a couple of pounds a week. My body was just holding onto it all before and now it is not. I am excited that I am finally on the road to losing these extra 20lb! And for me, no side effects at all.

Isn’t that an unusual response, though? For most people it curbs appetite and thus reduces overall calorie intake?

DP - Those two things are not mutually exclusive. And no, it is not unusual, my experience was also quite similar. Insulin resistance is a real thing.

I’m not following. The first PP said she is eating literally exactly the same. How is that not mutually exclusive with reducing calories?

I am unsure why you are not able to follow. Are you suggesting that GLPs can’t both reduce appetite and change metabolism? Or are you suggesting that people can’t eat the same amount of calories they did before despite a reduced appetite? That used to be called “dieting”.

It’s not that complicated.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish we knew how we got here. Maybe these drugs can drastically improve the health of more well to do Americans but they were not needed 50 years ago. What did we do to our food and lifestyle that drug companies get this boon?

There is obesity and extreme weight due to overconsumption of junk, our horrible food supply, and the use of glp to really help counterbalance all this.

But I think the middle aged women who are 15lbs overweight now were 15lbs overweight in the 50s too, in the 19th century…we just don’t have pics in fashion mags showing us these women, but i certainly have these pics of the women in my family, as many others do: women who worked hard and ate simple foods but were not thin and gained weight in peri. So is the solution to try and conform to the new standards thanks to glp, try with great effort to lose weight other ways, or just accept some weight gain while not neglecting general health? I’m struggling with that myself. So much of it is society and misogyny at play and it’s both hard to ignore and shitty on some level to cater to.

I agree with this. I think this highlights the hormonal nature of this weight gain and how the glps are helpful with that. I only started a few weeks ago and I am tracking my eating now as I have done for years - I am eating literally exactly the same as I was before (very healthily and in the 1200-1500 range) and now I am dropping a couple of pounds a week. My body was just holding onto it all before and now it is not. I am excited that I am finally on the road to losing these extra 20lb! And for me, no side effects at all.

Isn’t that an unusual response, though? For most people it curbs appetite and thus reduces overall calorie intake?

DP - Those two things are not mutually exclusive. And no, it is not unusual, my experience was also quite similar. Insulin resistance is a real thing.

I’m not following. The first PP said she is eating literally exactly the same. How is that not mutually exclusive with reducing calories?

Calories were already reduced. Most women I know restrict their intake as a matter of habit. Never seen a woman take a second helping of dessert.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish we knew how we got here. Maybe these drugs can drastically improve the health of more well to do Americans but they were not needed 50 years ago. What did we do to our food and lifestyle that drug companies get this boon?

There is obesity and extreme weight due to overconsumption of junk, our horrible food supply, and the use of glp to really help counterbalance all this.

But I think the middle aged women who are 15lbs overweight now were 15lbs overweight in the 50s too, in the 19th century…we just don’t have pics in fashion mags showing us these women, but i certainly have these pics of the women in my family, as many others do: women who worked hard and ate simple foods but were not thin and gained weight in peri. So is the solution to try and conform to the new standards thanks to glp, try with great effort to lose weight other ways, or just accept some weight gain while not neglecting general health? I’m struggling with that myself. So much of it is society and misogyny at play and it’s both hard to ignore and shitty on some level to cater to.

I agree with this. I think this highlights the hormonal nature of this weight gain and how the glps are helpful with that. I only started a few weeks ago and I am tracking my eating now as I have done for years - I am eating literally exactly the same as I was before (very healthily and in the 1200-1500 range) and now I am dropping a couple of pounds a week. My body was just holding onto it all before and now it is not. I am excited that I am finally on the road to losing these extra 20lb! And for me, no side effects at all.

Isn’t that an unusual response, though? For most people it curbs appetite and thus reduces overall calorie intake?

DP - Those two things are not mutually exclusive. And no, it is not unusual, my experience was also quite similar. Insulin resistance is a real thing.

I’m not following. The first PP said she is eating literally exactly the same. How is that not mutually exclusive with reducing calories?

Calories were already reduced. Most women I know restrict their intake as a matter of habit. Never seen a woman take a second helping of dessert.

Not in front of you, sure.

Lots of people are secret eaters.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wish we knew how we got here. Maybe these drugs can drastically improve the health of more well to do Americans but they were not needed 50 years ago. What did we do to our food and lifestyle that drug companies get this boon?

There is obesity and extreme weight due to overconsumption of junk, our horrible food supply, and the use of glp to really help counterbalance all this.

But I think the middle aged women who are 15lbs overweight now were 15lbs overweight in the 50s too, in the 19th century…we just don’t have pics in fashion mags showing us these women, but i certainly have these pics of the women in my family, as many others do: women who worked hard and ate simple foods but were not thin and gained weight in peri. So is the solution to try and conform to the new standards thanks to glp, try with great effort to lose weight other ways, or just accept some weight gain while not neglecting general health? I’m struggling with that myself. So much of it is society and misogyny at play and it’s both hard to ignore and shitty on some level to cater to.

I agree with this. I think this highlights the hormonal nature of this weight gain and how the glps are helpful with that. I only started a few weeks ago and I am tracking my eating now as I have done for years - I am eating literally exactly the same as I was before (very healthily and in the 1200-1500 range) and now I am dropping a couple of pounds a week. My body was just holding onto it all before and now it is not. I am excited that I am finally on the road to losing these extra 20lb! And for me, no side effects at all.

Isn’t that an unusual response, though? For most people it curbs appetite and thus reduces overall calorie intake?

DP - Those two things are not mutually exclusive. And no, it is not unusual, my experience was also quite similar. Insulin resistance is a real thing.

I’m not following. The first PP said she is eating literally exactly the same. How is that not mutually exclusive with reducing calories?

Calories were already reduced. Most women I know restrict their intake as a matter of habit. Never seen a woman take a second helping of dessert.

What a naive post.

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The only way I've successfully lost weight (I'm 55 now) in the last few years is by eating twice a day within an 8 hr window. I gain a few pounds every school year and every summer I get rid of those pounds by time restricted eating (ends up being fewer calories in a day) and eating higher fats and protein. Breakfast is avocado toast or an omelet with a bit of berries and nuts. I'm stuffed after these because they are full of healthy fat. I don't snack because breakfast fills me up. Dinner is done by 6pm and then I don't eat again until 10am. Works every year and fairly quickly too. I'm down 6 pounds in the last three weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:I just reconnected with a group of college friends and we met up for dinner. Every single one looks fantastic - maybe even better in their mid 40s than their 20s. I came to find out that 3 of the 4 women are on GLPs which helped them lose 10-20 lbs (none were overweight) and now they are just micro dosing to maintain. They all said they feel better then they have in years, didn’t have bad side effects, and focus on eating protein so they don’t lose muscle.

Anyway, here I am struggling to lose 10-15 lbs like always - restricting my calories, working out a ton, etc, and barely seeing the scale move. Every time I do lose it it ends up coming back again.

Just wondering why I don’t take the easier route like so many others. I would need to find a doctor to prescribe it since my PCP won’t (despite telling me my BMI is too high and I need to focus on losing 10-15 lbs).

This is why no one talks to you about it. You are a judgey friend. No one needs that in their life.

Not OP but it’s true. It is the easier route. Exercising hard annd regularly at the same time as restricting calories when you work full time and are raising kids is hard. Injecting yourself with weight-loss drugs that work = easy.

Ok I'm going to blow your mind here. I've been getting up at 5am to exercise 5 days/week (3 days lifting, 2 days cardio) and walking at least 8k+ steps per day for 3 years. I've dutifully tracked macros nearly every single day. I meal prepped breakfast and lunch and thoughtfully planned dinners. I lost 12 pounds and then got stuck for 2 years+.

I'm on Zepbound now and I still do all of those things. But now, I've dropped 14 pounds in 2.5 months-- on a "starter"-- not even therapeutic dose. I'm sure there are people who use it to suppress their appetite and when they do eat, eat like shit and don't exercise. But my point is for those of us trying to make lasting changes that support health its STILL hard, albeit admittedly not as frustrating as it used to be.