King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

Stone MS does not have the space to add all the students previously zoned to CHS and CVHS you are suggesting be moved to Westfield. Its unfortunate that one of the smallest middle school buildings feeds into one of the larger high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stone MS does not have the space to add all the students previously zoned to CHS and CVHS you are suggesting be moved to Westfield. Its unfortunate that one of the smallest middle school buildings feeds into one of the larger high schools.

Stone is 15% under capacity and projected to be 19% under capacity in a few years. It can absorb some more kids.

[Anonymous]

I think they will take one or two ES from each nearby HS.

Floris and either McNair or Coates (maybe Floris & Coates and move McNair to South Lakes?)
Fox Mill from South Lakes
Oak Hill and maaaaaybe Lees Corner
Crossfield and maaaaaaaybe Navy (does part of Navy go to Chantilly now or do they all go to Oakton?)

[Anonymous]

My question is will they rezone Franklin/Carson based on how they rezone the new high school?

[Anonymous]

There's a whole private minibus of transfer kids who get dropped off at Langley every morning. Its a little absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone MS does not have the space to add all the students previously zoned to CHS and CVHS you are suggesting be moved to Westfield. Its unfortunate that one of the smallest middle school buildings feeds into one of the larger high schools.

Stone is 15% under capacity and projected to be 19% under capacity in a few years. It can absorb some more kids.

Dumping 100+ more kids, most of them poor, into Stone, which is already regarded as an inferior and struggling school, so it can now be overcrowded as well? Fine with you because your kids won't go there, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they will take one or two ES from each nearby HS.

Floris and either McNair or Coates (maybe Floris & Coates and move McNair to South Lakes?)
Fox Mill from South Lakes
Oak Hill and maaaaaybe Lees Corner
Crossfield and maaaaaaaybe Navy (does part of Navy go to Chantilly now or do they all go to Oakton?)

Why move McNair to South Lakes and Fox Mill to KAA if they could just move McNair to KAA. That impacts fewer students.

It’s also far from clear KAA could take kids from more than 4 or 5 feeders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone MS does not have the space to add all the students previously zoned to CHS and CVHS you are suggesting be moved to Westfield. Its unfortunate that one of the smallest middle school buildings feeds into one of the larger high schools.

Stone is 15% under capacity and projected to be 19% under capacity in a few years. It can absorb some more kids.

Dumping 100+ more kids, most of them poor, into Stone, which is already regarded as an inferior and struggling school, so it can now be overcrowded as well? Fine with you because your kids won't go there, right?

You’re big on hyperbole. Most of these kids would not be poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone MS does not have the space to add all the students previously zoned to CHS and CVHS you are suggesting be moved to Westfield. Its unfortunate that one of the smallest middle school buildings feeds into one of the larger high schools.

Stone is 15% under capacity and projected to be 19% under capacity in a few years. It can absorb some more kids.

Dumping 100+ more kids, most of them poor, into Stone, which is already regarded as an inferior and struggling school, so it can now be overcrowded as well? Fine with you because your kids won't go there, right?

You’re big on hyperbole. Most of these kids would not be poor.

Sounds like you aren't familiar with the neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone MS does not have the space to add all the students previously zoned to CHS and CVHS you are suggesting be moved to Westfield. Its unfortunate that one of the smallest middle school buildings feeds into one of the larger high schools.

Stone is 15% under capacity and projected to be 19% under capacity in a few years. It can absorb some more kids.

Dumping 100+ more kids, most of them poor, into Stone, which is already regarded as an inferior and struggling school, so it can now be overcrowded as well? Fine with you because your kids won't go there, right?

You’re big on hyperbole. Most of these kids would not be poor.

Sounds like you aren't familiar with the neighborhoods.

Sounds like you have no handle on statistics or publicly available information.

[Anonymous]

I live in Centreville. PP is correct: the neighborhoods that go from BRES to Liberty are mostly low income and most of the low income kids at Liberty come from those decelopments. Without the AAP center, the FARMs rate at BRES would probably be more like 70-80+%. That's why they put the AAP center there originally.

There are a few small pockets of single family homes with a handful of kids but the rest are apartments and older townhomes. Specifically, the most kids come from the apartments off Trinity and Paddington and the townhomes by Sunoco and the Crofton Commons apartments and townhomes.

No one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/CVHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think they will take one or two ES from each nearby HS.

Floris and either McNair or Coates (maybe Floris & Coates and move McNair to South Lakes?)
Fox Mill from South Lakes
Oak Hill and maaaaaybe Lees Corner
Crossfield and maaaaaaaybe Navy (does part of Navy go to Chantilly now or do they all go to Oakton?)

Someone who does not know the area. Or, has a specific agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Centreville. PP is correct: the neighborhoods that go from BRES to Liberty are mostly low income and most of the low income kids at Liberty come from those decelopments. Without the AAP center, the FARMs rate at BRES would probably be more like 70-80+%. That's why they put the AAP center there originally.

There are a few small pockets of single family homes with a handful of kids but the rest are apartments and older townhomes. Specifically, the most kids come from the apartments off Trinity and Paddington and the townhomes by Sunoco and the Crofton Commons apartments and townhomes.

No one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/CVHS.

You say “no one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/Centreville” but what you are really saying is “Westfield doesn’t want more Bull Run kids.”

Just admit parents in the southern part of the Westfield district oppose the KAA purchase because you don’t want the likely consequence of more Bull Run kids at Westfield. You cannot pull three feeders out of Westfield if KAA opens and not move some other kids there, and the obvious kids would come from Bull Run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Centreville. PP is correct: the neighborhoods that go from BRES to Liberty are mostly low income and most of the low income kids at Liberty come from those decelopments. Without the AAP center, the FARMs rate at BRES would probably be more like 70-80+%. That's why they put the AAP center there originally.

There are a few small pockets of single family homes with a handful of kids but the rest are apartments and older townhomes. Specifically, the most kids come from the apartments off Trinity and Paddington and the townhomes by Sunoco and the Crofton Commons apartments and townhomes.

No one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/CVHS.

You say “no one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/Centreville” but what you are really saying is “Westfield doesn’t want more Bull Run kids.”

Just admit parents in the southern part of the Westfield district oppose the KAA purchase because you don’t want the likely consequence of more Bull Run kids at Westfield. You cannot pull three feeders out of Westfield if KAA opens and not move some other kids there, and the obvious kids would come from Bull Run.

It sounds like both things are true. People don't want their kids moved--especially "down"--and people don't want their kids current school situation to be made worse so other kids school situation can be made better. That's true across the entire county.

KAA boundaries need to be drawn in a way that moves the fewest kids around and doesn't negatively effect other schools or there will be a ton of community pushback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Centreville. PP is correct: the neighborhoods that go from BRES to Liberty are mostly low income and most of the low income kids at Liberty come from those decelopments. Without the AAP center, the FARMs rate at BRES would probably be more like 70-80+%. That's why they put the AAP center there originally.

There are a few small pockets of single family homes with a handful of kids but the rest are apartments and older townhomes. Specifically, the most kids come from the apartments off Trinity and Paddington and the townhomes by Sunoco and the Crofton Commons apartments and townhomes.

No one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/CVHS.

You say “no one is going to want their kids moved from Liberty/Centreville” but what you are really saying is “Westfield doesn’t want more Bull Run kids.”

Just admit parents in the southern part of the Westfield district oppose the KAA purchase because you don’t want the likely consequence of more Bull Run kids at Westfield. You cannot pull three feeders out of Westfield if KAA opens and not move some other kids there, and the obvious kids would come from Bull Run.

It sounds like both things are true. People don't want their kids moved--especially "down"--and people don't want their kids current school situation to be made worse so other kids school situation can be made better. That's true across the entire county.

KAA boundaries need to be drawn in a way that moves the fewest kids around and doesn't negatively effect other schools or there will be a ton of community pushback.

If they close on the purchase and commit that KAA will be a community school then later “pushback” won’t amount to a hill of beans.

KAA will logically take three current Westfield feeders further north (Floris, Coates, and McNair). Even if all three don’t end up at KAA, they’ll still need to move out of Westfield. And then Westfield will need to take some kids from Centreville, which in turn will allow families at Willow Springs who are currently zoned to Fairfax, even though Centreville is much closer, to move to Centreville.

If the future Westfield doesn’t appeal to you, you can move, try to pupil place, or try to block the KAA deal. Complaining because you think Westfield will end up with a somewhat higher FARMS rate that’s still well below the FARMS rate at Herndon and other schools further east won’t get you very far, as more kids will be able to attend schools closer to where they live.