PRO-LIFE March on Washington this Friday, March22

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A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

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I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.
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Anonymous wrote:NOBODY IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR CHOICE AWAY!

We are only talking about reasonable, common sense, safety measures. Trust us.


Unlike those advocation for responsible gun control measures those in power opposed to abortion are constantly chipping away at women's rights by imposing insurmountable legal and regulatory barriers on providers, not to mention attempting to defund PP at the state and federal level.


You seriously believe "those advocation for responsible gun control measures" are NOT "constantly chipping away at [gun owners] rights by imposing insurmountable legal and regulatory barriers . . . not to mention attempting [erode rights and raise costs] at the state and federal level." ??!

It is a perfect analogy.

I am pro-choice. But I am also pro-freedom, including protecting a woman's right to choose how to protect herself from rape and crime.


In the past 20 years it has become easier to own a gun in most states.

In those same years it is has become more challenging for women to access an abortion.

FACT

Which states are you referring to?


Which gun rights have been chipped away? What kind of waiting period did you have before buying your gun, after having an initial consultation? How many miles did you have to drive there? How many handicap parking spaces were there! Was there some sort of timelline that, after a certain point, you had to go to a different gun shop? What kind of gauntlet of "sidewalk counseling" did you face? Did the legislature force your gun seller to tell you a list of lies about guns? Analogy fail.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.

How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.


So the kids still feels unwanted/abandoned?

Why do the infertiles get the burden of unwanted kids? Probably no prenatal care, maybe drugs, perhaps not the best genetic material, etc.

How many kids have you adopted?
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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, you can follow you own beliefs, OP. Don't force them on others.


Then what are you doing? Every pro-choice person who argues about this is trying to force their beliefs on others who believe abortion is murder. You need to put that bullshit aside if you want to effectively argue your position.

I am pro-choice, BTW, but not as cavalier about it as some. Anyone who is cavalier about this and thinks it is ONLY about women's bodies is a bit of an ass. I find pro-choice people who hide behind the argument that abortion does not kill a human being to be cowardly. Once you are pregnant, this is about the rights of the baby vs. the rights of the woman. Pro-choice people think the rights of the woman trump the rights of the baby. Pro-life think the opposite. And never the twain shall meet.


The pro-choicers aren't trying to force anything on those who are anti-abortion. If they believe abortion is murder, then they are perfectly free to not have abortions.

Your murdered human child deserves right to life until she chooses otherwise. Not you.


See, there you go again, putting the rights of a non-viable fetus ahead of the rights of the mother.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.


Oh great. Outlawing abortion will make adoption cheaper and more convenient for adoptive parents to obtain babies. That's a great argument, keep going with that one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.

Does using suction and a scraper to rip a fetus limb from limb qualify as almost child abuse?


Doing that unwanted child a favor.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.


Plenty of brown babies here in America looking for loving adoptive parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Who are you to predict a person's life? Perhaps you regret being born?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.


Plenty of brown babies here in America looking for loving adoptive parents.

True. Adoption is an option.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.


Plenty of brown babies here in America looking for loving adoptive parents.

True. Adoption is an option.

Adoption is also an option when abortion is legal. No one is saying *everyone with an unwanted pregnancy must have an abortion!* Seriously, not one pro-choice person has ever suggested that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A Child is a Child is a Child....
no matter what stage of development.

My rights STOP where yours BEGIN....
no matter your age or stage of development.

If the father is obligated to support that child,
why shouldn't the mother at least refrain from
commiting the violent act of ending that child's life?

Whatever you want to call "it" makes no difference
to the child who IS a dependent life, as any minor child is.

Terminating the life of a child is a horror,
by knife, by needle, by gun, by suffocation.
It's the very painful termination of a life.



Forcing a mob of impressionable high schoolers to tromp around in the cold is not going to accomplish anything. It's bordering on child abuse.


Abortion is child abuse


Forcing a woman to give birth is also abuse.

How is abortion not abuse of mother AND child?
After the abortion, some women are infertile.


No, they aren't, at least not at any greater rate than any other woman who develops secondary infertility. You know what does cause infertility? Non-sterile abortions by unlicensed, non-skilled providers. You know, like pre Roe v Wade.

It's these boneheaded, demonstrably untrue statements that make anti-choicers look like big ol' liars.

+1

I've never had an abortion. I'm relatively sure I would never have an abortion (though I can't be 100% positive), but I'm damn sure not going to tell another woman what to do with her body. I'm pro-choice and pro-healthy medical options for all humans, not pro-abortion.


How is a painful death a healthy option for a child?


+10000 to bolded comments above.

I am pro-contraceptive/abstinence.

And to answer your question: it saves the child (and parents) a lifetime of being unwanted/unloved. Plenty of messed up people already in the world.

Plenty of infertile couples having to go across the globe to find a baby to adopt.


Plenty of brown babies here in America looking for loving adoptive parents.

True. Adoption is an option.


Yet there are so very many kids that end up in foster care and with a horrible upbringing because there aren't enough people who say "adoption is an option" who are actually willing to put their money where their mouths are.
Anonymous
I think people forget what an ordeal childbirth actually is. 150 years ago, one of the leading causes of death for women was dying in childbirth.
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