Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true

I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?

It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.

Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.

Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.

I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?

Jeff - this happens every year. The only time it makes the post is when someone is actually shot or stabbed severely enough to make local news. Those of us who live (or lived) anywhere near Woodley or Cleveland Park know to stay away from CT Ave the say after Easter.

Let's just be clear on what "this" is. "This" is not shootings or stabbings. Yes, there are big crowds. Yes, sometimes those crowds are not well-behaved. I wouldn't choose to go to the zoo that day because of the crowds. Shootings and stabbings, thankfully, are rare.

I call BS. If those of us who think there is a pattern of violence or unruly behavior are wrong, you should put your money where your mouth is and go to the zoo next year on Easter Monday with your children in the afternoon/early evening. Spend a little time around the entrance and take some pictures by the zoo sign. Then you can tell us all about how we were wrong! Wouldn't that be the best argument against all those people who take "glee" in these events? (Not buying the crowd thing. I'm sure your children have been in crowds before if you judge it's worthwhile.)

Exactly. BS time is over. Let's see who among the "its just another day at the zoo" crowd takes their family and kids to the zoo next AA family day. Words are cheap, deeds are not.

Life as a blowhard must be fun. Just say whatever you want and never have to worry about facts. It seems like half of you can't even read. What I said is that there haven't been shootings or stabbings every year. If you are claiming there are -- as some posters have -- you are either misinformed or lying. I only go to the zoo a couple of times a year. Why would I pick one of the busiest days of the year? Plus, I have the luxury of being able to go during the week. Why would I go on any weekend?

It is amazing that simply expecting people to be accurate about an event is enough to provoke a 10 page plus thread and this kind of anger. You guys seriously need to take a valium.

Yes, Valium would have been a great defense against these "four spent 9mm casings"
http://m.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-search-for-suspects-motive-in-shooting-outside-national-zoo/2014/04/22/725a0e2a-ca23-11e3-93eb-6c0037dde2ad_story.html

Jeff, what can I say, you are a disgrace.

Another idiot that can't read and doesn't care about facts. Those cartridges were not from this shooting. Are you a habitual liar or is that something new you just started?

What's really disturbing about the article is that it seems that gang members and wannabes are playing out their grudge-matches on new territory, family-friendly Connecticut Avenue and Woodley Park. This is the sort of development that needs to be taken very seriously by the neighborhood, the police and city authorities, with an overwhelming response called for to stop this problem before it continues.

[Anonymous]

http://m.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-search-for-suspects-motive-in-shooting-outside-national-zoo/2014/04/22/725a0e2a-ca23-11e3-93eb-6c0037dde2ad_story.html
shington Post)

For Woodley Park residents, the shooting was the culmination of a week of disturbances that forced the zoo to close its gates early on consecutive Mondays. On April 14, a man unloading groceries saw a youth fire shots into the air as he and friends ran through an alley off Connecticut Avenue, according to a D.C. police report. Police detained three people, including one hiding in a garbage can, but made no arrests. Officers found four spent 9mm casings near the Marriott Wardman Park on Woodley Road, three blocks southwest of the zoo...Zoo guest services staff member Robin Ballard said the teens who were kicked out had been there April 14. She said managers told her that the teens had posted on Facebook that they would be returning. “They were stealing stuff, and they were fighting,” Ballard said.

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You know, Starbucks has been attracting people carrying guns due to the company's position on the Second Amendment. Perhaps that is why the guns were in the area. And how do we know the shooter wasn't from the neighborhood when they have not identified him/her?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true

I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?

It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.

Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.

Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.

I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?

Jeff - this happens every year. The only time it makes the post is when someone is actually shot or stabbed severely enough to make local news. Those of us who live (or lived) anywhere near Woodley or Cleveland Park know to stay away from CT Ave the say after Easter.

Let's just be clear on what "this" is. "This" is not shootings or stabbings. Yes, there are big crowds. Yes, sometimes those crowds are not well-behaved. I wouldn't choose to go to the zoo that day because of the crowds. Shootings and stabbings, thankfully, are rare.

I call BS. If those of us who think there is a pattern of violence or unruly behavior are wrong, you should put your money where your mouth is and go to the zoo next year on Easter Monday with your children in the afternoon/early evening. Spend a little time around the entrance and take some pictures by the zoo sign. Then you can tell us all about how we were wrong! Wouldn't that be the best argument against all those people who take "glee" in these events? (Not buying the crowd thing. I'm sure your children have been in crowds before if you judge it's worthwhile.)

Exactly. BS time is over. Let's see who among the "its just another day at the zoo" crowd takes their family and kids to the zoo next AA family day. Words are cheap, deeds are not.

Life as a blowhard must be fun. Just say whatever you want and never have to worry about facts. It seems like half of you can't even read. What I said is that there haven't been shootings or stabbings every year. If you are claiming there are -- as some posters have -- you are either misinformed or lying. I only go to the zoo a couple of times a year. Why would I pick one of the busiest days of the year? Plus, I have the luxury of being able to go during the week. Why would I go on any weekend?

It is amazing that simply expecting people to be accurate about an event is enough to provoke a 10 page plus thread and this kind of anger. You guys seriously need to take a valium.

I'm not saying there are stabbings and shootings every year. But it gets really dicey. If I'm wrong, why don't you go next year with your kids? Take pics by the entrance and tell us how your family had no issues. I live in the neighborhood with my daughter, so I will be around here next year. If you don't think there is anything to fear, please tell us how we were wrong. I am open to reevaluating. How am I a blowhard? (But if you have extra Valium...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://m.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-search-for-suspects-motive-in-shooting-outside-national-zoo/2014/04/22/725a0e2a-ca23-11e3-93eb-6c0037dde2ad_story.html
shington Post)

For Woodley Park residents, the shooting was the culmination of a week of disturbances that forced the zoo to close its gates early on consecutive Mondays. On April 14, a man unloading groceries saw a youth fire shots into the air as he and friends ran through an alley off Connecticut Avenue, according to a D.C. police report. Police detained three people, including one hiding in a garbage can, but made no arrests. Officers found four spent 9mm casings near the Marriott Wardman Park on Woodley Road, three blocks southwest of the zoo...Zoo guest services staff member Robin Ballard said the teens who were kicked out had been there April 14. She said managers told her that the teens had posted on Facebook that they would be returning. “They were stealing stuff, and they were fighting,” Ballard said.

There's a school and at least two churches located between the zoo and the Wardman Marriott. What a lovely area it's becoming.

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Anonymous wrote:You know, Starbucks has been attracting people carrying guns due to the company's position on the Second Amendment. Perhaps that is why the guns were in the area. And how do we know the shooter wasn't from the neighborhood when they have not identified him/her?

Maybe next year the neighbors should arm themselves.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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Another idiot that can't read and doesn't care about facts. Those cartridges were not from this shooting. Are you a habitual liar or is that something new you just started?

Read the article, monster.

Here, you probably will have to move your lips while you read this:

On April 14, a man unloading groceries saw a youth fire shots into the air as he and friends ran through an alley off Connecticut Avenue, according to a D.C. police report. Police detained three people, including one hiding in a garbage can, but made no arrests. Officers found four spent 9mm casings near the Marriott Wardman Park on Woodley Road, three blocks southwest of the zoo.

Hey Jeff, it seems you forgot to include the other part of the article PP quoted. You think we can't read? And, you think 4 spent casings support your case?

[Anonymous]

This AA family goes to six flags on Easter Monday. We've seen enough lions, tigers and bears (in my Jasmine Sullivan voice).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This AA family goes to six flags on Easter Monday. We've seen enough lions, tigers and bears (in my Jasmine Sullivan voice).

Wise indeed. But be careful, someone may call you racist for what you just said.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Another idiot that can't read and doesn't care about facts. Those cartridges were not from this shooting. Are you a habitual liar or is that something new you just started?

Read the article, monster.

Here, you probably will have to move your lips while you read this:

On April 14, a man unloading groceries saw a youth fire shots into the air as he and friends ran through an alley off Connecticut Avenue, according to a D.C. police report. Police detained three people, including one hiding in a garbage can, but made no arrests. Officers found four spent 9mm casings near the Marriott Wardman Park on Woodley Road, three blocks southwest of the zoo.

Hey Jeff, it seems you forgot to include the other part of the article PP quoted. You think we can't read? And, you think 4 spent casings support your case?

Don't talk about yourself in the third person. Even without doing that you've caused me to question your sanity. Can you point out which part of that article says those shell casings came from the April 21 shooting?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true

I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?

It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.

Except those aren't facts. Shootings and stabbings don't happen every year. In fact, it appears that in 2000 there was a shooting, in 2011 a stabbing, and the latest event which has still not been connected to the zoo.

Bullshit. Read the post by the Starbucks employee in the other thread. Attend the police community meeting tomorrow to discuss last week's harassment and shots. It is essentially every year, in one shape or another.

I read that post. It didn't say anything about shootings and stabbings every year. What purpose do you have to spread misinformation?

Jeff - this happens every year. The only time it makes the post is when someone is actually shot or stabbed severely enough to make local news. Those of us who live (or lived) anywhere near Woodley or Cleveland Park know to stay away from CT Ave the say after Easter.

Let's just be clear on what "this" is. "This" is not shootings or stabbings. Yes, there are big crowds. Yes, sometimes those crowds are not well-behaved. I wouldn't choose to go to the zoo that day because of the crowds. Shootings and stabbings, thankfully, are rare.

I call BS. If those of us who think there is a pattern of violence or unruly behavior are wrong, you should put your money where your mouth is and go to the zoo next year on Easter Monday with your children in the afternoon/early evening. Spend a little time around the entrance and take some pictures by the zoo sign. Then you can tell us all about how we were wrong! Wouldn't that be the best argument against all those people who take "glee" in these events? (Not buying the crowd thing. I'm sure your children have been in crowds before if you judge it's worthwhile.)

Exactly. BS time is over. Let's see who among the "its just another day at the zoo" crowd takes their family and kids to the zoo next AA family day. Words are cheap, deeds are not.

Life as a blowhard must be fun. Just say whatever you want and never have to worry about facts. It seems like half of you can't even read. What I said is that there haven't been shootings or stabbings every year. If you are claiming there are -- as some posters have -- you are either misinformed or lying. I only go to the zoo a couple of times a year. Why would I pick one of the busiest days of the year? Plus, I have the luxury of being able to go during the week. Why would I go on any weekend?

It is amazing that simply expecting people to be accurate about an event is enough to provoke a 10 page plus thread and this kind of anger. You guys seriously need to take a valium.

You would go on one of the busiest days of the year with your kids to prove us racists and glee takers wrong. If you really do think there are tons of people who are taking glee in these events, this would be a great way to defeat us. It's not worth venturing a crowd to defeat racists? That's disappointing.

[Anonymous]

^^^This person has gone from idiotic to downright crazy. Time to cut the cord. Creepy!

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Another idiot that can't read and doesn't care about facts. Those cartridges were not from this shooting. Are you a habitual liar or is that something new you just started?

Read the article, monster.

Here, you probably will have to move your lips while you read this:

On April 14, a man unloading groceries saw a youth fire shots into the air as he and friends ran through an alley off Connecticut Avenue, according to a D.C. police report. Police detained three people, including one hiding in a garbage can, but made no arrests. Officers found four spent 9mm casings near the Marriott Wardman Park on Woodley Road, three blocks southwest of the zoo.

Hey Jeff, it seems you forgot to include the other part of the article PP quoted. You think we can't read? And, you think 4 spent casings support your case?

Don't talk about yourself in the third person. Even without doing that you've caused me to question your sanity. Can you point out which part of that article says those shell casings came from the April 21 shooting?

Joking much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true

I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?

It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.

Yes. And let's hear from the AA community about how outraged they are that a few hoodlums have ruined their family event, what they plan to do about it, and how they intend to take it back as a safe family day.

Right after we hear from the white community about how outraged they are that a few hoodlums have ruined the peace of mind and safety students should have in school without fear of a mass school shooting.

What say you, white people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand posters like poster 21:20. To make you argument, you embellish the truth or outright lie. There has not been annual violence at this event, but I guess if you say it and write it often enough it becomes your reality.

Also, throughout this thread and the original thread there have been overt racist posts regarding the event. However, when the poster responded in kind to remind you of violence committed by white youth, you assert that that stuff is out of bounds. So is it safe to believe that at least in DCUM world, there are no limits to what can be said and/ or imputed to the Black community. The same cannot and should not be mentioned about he white community.

Please. Who defends school shooters? Or military base shooters? I can't even remember what their races have been. But what we should, as a society be doing about mental health treatment and serious gun control, We need to take practical steps to make the "family day" event safer. Some have suggested a ticketed event or one strictly for young kids and their families. If you only want to consider security measures, how about stop and frisk?

Hmmm, was this not a gun-related incident? Why no calls to tackle gun control? Why is that RARELY mentioned when the guns are held by black perps?