So sad for Wisconsin today

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that republicans do not issue death threats like this. And if they did it would be the topic of debate for 2 weeks of news cycles. It is funny how quickly democrats broke their own sanctimonious scolding and nagging civility rules. Where's Obama on this outrageous violation of civility?

Really. You believe that? These are just the

http://www.wane.com/dpps/news/national/south/tx-man-arrested-in-obama-death-threats_3745470
http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/88845/man-held-for-death-threats-to-npr-hosts
http://www.necn.com/03/18/11/Latest-Maine-New-Hampshire-and-Vermont-n/landing_nation.html?&blockID=3&apID=09f5bc0b1eb64c3aa35f9944f3fd7fec

those examples dont hold up, neither are GOP / tea party or anything political. Nothing like a direct response to a vote that doesnt go your way and multiple death treats from numerous Union sympethizers. This is unprecedented incivility and criminal behavior.

[jsteele]

Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

I haven't even read your posted article yet, but I'm really disappointed--actually, shocked, but obviously I don't know you other than through your forum and the items you've written--that you would post this comment. The person may be a Republican; but come on, Jeff. Many people who vote Republican--even if most of the time--wouldn't commit a crime like this. There are plenty of politicians, voters, and office holders in this country who think very differently than I do; but I wouldn't make this kind of accusation.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

I haven't even read your posted article yet, but I'm really disappointed--actually, shocked, but obviously I don't know you other than through your forum and the items you've written--that you would post this comment. The person may be a Republican; but come on, Jeff. Many people who vote Republican--even if most of the time--wouldn't commit a crime like this. There are plenty of politicians, voters, and office holders in this country who think very differently than I do; but I wouldn't make this kind of accusation.

Were you shocked by the above posts blaming Democrats for threats to Wisconsin Republicans?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

I haven't even read your posted article yet, but I'm really disappointed--actually, shocked, but obviously I don't know you other than through your forum and the items you've written--that you would post this comment. The person may be a Republican; but come on, Jeff. Many people who vote Republican--even if most of the time--wouldn't commit a crime like this. There are plenty of politicians, voters, and office holders in this country who think very differently than I do; but I wouldn't make this kind of accusation.

Were you shocked by the above posts blaming Democrats for threats to Wisconsin Republicans?

Absolutely. But they could be anyone. I really held you in much higher regard. Yes, it did shock me; and I'm offended that you would link such a brutal crime with Republicans. I usually vote for Republicans, but I admire President Obama and think he's an inspiring leader and a wonderful family man. Am I conservative on many issues? Yes. I also have many gay/lesbian friends from work, church, and my neighborhood. I have a cousin who's gay. Just the idea of someone stoning them is beyond heinous, much less committing the act.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

nice try 95% of registered violent criminals are democrat. In other words for every gop murderer, there are 10 democrat,

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
Absolutely. But they could be anyone. I really held you in much higher regard. Yes, it did shock me; and I'm offended that you would link such a brutal crime with Republicans. I usually vote for Republicans, but I admire President Obama and think he's an inspiring leader and a wonderful family man. Am I conservative on many issues? Yes. I also have many gay/lesbian friends from work, church, and my neighborhood. I have a cousin who's gay. Just the idea of someone stoning them is beyond heinous, much less committing the act.

All I did was point out that the guy was probably a Republican. Any implications of his political affiliation are things you deduced yourself. Do you think that it is not likely that he is a Republican? Personally, I don't think this individual's actions reflect on Republicans. Similarly, I don't think the actions of one unidentified individual reflects on Democrats or the Left (especially given the fact that we don't know the political leanings of the unidentified individual). However, there is a poster in this thread who puts great weight on the political leanings -- real or imagined -- of people who commit crimes. I would find your argument more persuasive if you had protested even one of his posts.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Absolutely. But they could be anyone. I really held you in much higher regard. Yes, it did shock me; and I'm offended that you would link such a brutal crime with Republicans. I usually vote for Republicans, but I admire President Obama and think he's an inspiring leader and a wonderful family man. Am I conservative on many issues? Yes. I also have many gay/lesbian friends from work, church, and my neighborhood. I have a cousin who's gay. Just the idea of someone stoning them is beyond heinous, much less committing the act.

All I did was point out that the guy was probably a Republican. Any implications of his political affiliation are things you deduced yourself. Do you think that it is not likely that he is a Republican? Personally, I don't think this individual's actions reflect on Republicans. Similarly, I don't think the actions of one unidentified individual reflects on Democrats or the Left (especially given the fact that we don't know the political leanings of the unidentified individual). However, there is a poster in this thread who puts great weight on the political leanings -- real or imagined -- of people who commit crimes. I would find your argument more persuasive if you had protested even one of his posts.

No, I didn't "deduce" anything. You said the "man" (if we can even think of him as a man) who stoned a gay person to death was probably a Republican. And I don't think it's "likely" that he's a Republican.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Absolutely. But they could be anyone. I really held you in much higher regard. Yes, it did shock me; and I'm offended that you would link such a brutal crime with Republicans. I usually vote for Republicans, but I admire President Obama and think he's an inspiring leader and a wonderful family man. Am I conservative on many issues? Yes. I also have many gay/lesbian friends from work, church, and my neighborhood. I have a cousin who's gay. Just the idea of someone stoning them is beyond heinous, much less committing the act.

All I did was point out that the guy was probably a Republican. Any implications of his political affiliation are things you deduced yourself. Do you think that it is not likely that he is a Republican? Personally, I don't think this individual's actions reflect on Republicans. Similarly, I don't think the actions of one unidentified individual reflects on Democrats or the Left (especially given the fact that we don't know the political leanings of the unidentified individual). However, there is a poster in this thread who puts great weight on the political leanings -- real or imagined -- of people who commit crimes. I would find your argument more persuasive if you had protested even one of his posts.

No, I didn't "deduce" anything. You said the "man" (if we can even think of him as a man) who stoned a gay person to death was probably a Republican. And I don't think it's "likely" that he's a Republican.

I disagree with the tactic as well, Jeff. At a minimum, it's like posting an article about drive-by shooting and saying, "How much do you want to bet the shooter was black?" You imply CAUSALITY with that kind of talk, which is unfair.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
Absolutely. But they
I disagree with the tactic as well, Jeff. At a minimum, it's like posting an article about drive-by shooting and saying, "How much do you want to bet the shooter was black?" You imply CAUSALITY with that kind of talk, which is unfair.

I think it absurd to impugn an entire group due to the actions of one loony individual. If you think that I believe that one crazy Old Testament reader represents all Republicans, you don't know me very well. Yet, a poster here has repeatedly done that to Democrats. Where were your objections then? I simply pointed out that this guy was probably Republican. The idea that he represents all Republicans is ridiculous and I made no such suggestion. It is just as ridiculous as blaming Democrats for a death threat in Wisconsin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The next rule they will try to break is the rules of mathematics. The budget numbers will destroy the fantasy world they live in. This time the rules will win. Math doesn't respect screaming, nagging, complaining, dressing up in sloppy clothes and protesting, whining, anger, lack of hygiene. could get ugly.

You can keep paying teachers less and less. Your children will get what they deserve. Eventually the janitor will be teaching history, which I guess is fine to you if he watches Glenn Beck.

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I love you, you sweet thing.
The Janitor has got to be more educated than Glenn Beck. Maybe the Janitor and Glenn Beck could exchange jobs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

I haven't even read your posted article yet, but I'm really disappointed--actually, shocked, but obviously I don't know you other than through your forum and the items you've written--that you would post this comment. The person may be a Republican; but come on, Jeff. Many people who vote Republican--even if most of the time--wouldn't commit a crime like this. There are plenty of politicians, voters, and office holders in this country who think very differently than I do; but I wouldn't make this kind of accusation.

I don't think Jeff was saying that if you are a Republican you kill gays, or that this particular person killed a gay because he is Republican. The point, if I understand, is that blaming Democrats, or union people, or those who oppose the Wisconsin action, is like blaming Republicans for the stoning.

Presumably, if Jeff thinks all Republicans are responsible for the murder, he will tell me I misunderstood, in which case I apologize to you and him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Here's a guy who stoned a gay man to death because of the Old Testament:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-70-Stoned-to-Death-for-Homosexuality-Police-118243719.html

How much do you want to bet the killer was a Republican?

nice try 95% of registered violent criminals are democrat. In other words for every gop murderer, there are 10 democrat,

80% of serial killers are Republican, though. Some of them worked in the Republican party. http://crime.about.com/od/serial/p/tedbundy.htm

[Anonymous]

Im just saying democrats murder at a rate astronomical to republicans. Not trying to nit pick.

[Anonymous]

And that doesn't even include abortion or accidental/aware transmission of aids.