VA residents - how do you know if UVA is the right fit?

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years.

That sounds freaking miserable. Why do this to yourself?

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Much smarter to go to a good school, even if it's not the "top fit" and graduate debt free (or minimal debt) than spend the next 10 years paying back massive debt. That is literally what most kids attending college do---they attend where they can afford, which is often in-state at the best option their state offers and they can gain admission to

But why can’t students look at options that cost about the same as UVA if they really just don’t like UVA?

My friend’s daughter just wanted to get out of VA and applied to state flagships and similar size schools elsewhere and the cost after merit was very similar.

Who said they can't?

The people who think you should just ignore fit and be forced to go somewhere because mommy and daddy deem it your best choice

Saying you should go in-state or find merit does not mean "ignoring fit" (which is way over-hyped anyway.)

you're still using the argument that fit is overblown, when the original post I objected to was "Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years."

I think in the end, this kid doesn't like UVA. Then kid doesn't need to apply there. Maybe W&M or Tech would be better if it HAS to be an in-state school.

I know plenty of kids who went to Pitt or OH State or UMass or the like with merit when they didn't like their VA choices/needed out, and they were perfectly happy with their choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years.

That sounds freaking miserable. Why do this to yourself?

Means to an end.

+1

Much smarter to go to a good school, even if it's not the "top fit" and graduate debt free (or minimal debt) than spend the next 10 years paying back massive debt. That is literally what most kids attending college do---they attend where they can afford, which is often in-state at the best option their state offers and they can gain admission to

But why can’t students look at options that cost about the same as UVA if they really just don’t like UVA?

My friend’s daughter just wanted to get out of VA and applied to state flagships and similar size schools elsewhere and the cost after merit was very similar.

Who said they can't?

The people who think you should just ignore fit and be forced to go somewhere because mommy and daddy deem it your best choice

Saying you should go in-state or find merit does not mean "ignoring fit" (which is way over-hyped anyway.)

you're still using the argument that fit is overblown, when the original post I objected to was "Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years."

I think in the end, this kid doesn't like UVA. Then kid doesn't need to apply there. Maybe W&M or Tech would be better if it HAS to be an in-state school.

I know plenty of kids who went to Pitt or OH State or UMass or the like with merit when they didn't like their VA choices/needed out, and they were perfectly happy with their choices.

I agree. I’m not sure what you think I’m arguing.

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Anonymous wrote:The DCUM college forum has been taken over by our grandmothers. All the talk about drinking is laughable. Kids drink in college. Period. They always have. UVA is no different.

Do they do big time coke at all colleges?

The schools with big social scenes have the same amount of drinking and drugs.

Do you have a cite for this claim?

DP here. What is your source that only UVA students use drugs?

Cite where that claim was made. Then cite the drug use is the same at all big colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA insiders know there is a two tier social system. The top tier is the popular, rich kids that come to UVA because it feels like an Ivy. There is a second tier that doesn’t really fit in that are the Nova strivers and kids from rural parts of VA that tend to be nerdier and honestly didn’t know what they were getting into when they enrolled at UVA. It’s sad, but the exclusive two tier system is real. Not all high stat kids should choose UVA if the social fit isn’t right.

It does not feel like an Ivy. wtf?

My Ivy had 6,000 total students. UVA feels like a big state school.

Somebody has a fragile ego lol the point stands regardless. UVA has a two tier system that is very exclusive

Why the need to always compare it to an Ivy? Who has the fragile ego?

But UVA IS an Ivy.

Just stop. that's getting old.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA insiders know there is a two tier social system. The top tier is the popular, rich kids that come to UVA because it feels like an Ivy. There is a second tier that doesn’t really fit in that are the Nova strivers and kids from rural parts of VA that tend to be nerdier and honestly didn’t know what they were getting into when they enrolled at UVA. It’s sad, but the exclusive two tier system is real. Not all high stat kids should choose UVA if the social fit isn’t right.

It does not feel like an Ivy. wtf?

My Ivy had 6,000 total students. UVA feels like a big state school.

Somebody has a fragile ego lol the point stands regardless. UVA has a two tier system that is very exclusive

Why the need to always compare it to an Ivy? Who has the fragile ego?

Technically, the Ivy League is an athletic conference. UVA is not in that conference. But it is widely considered to be a public Ivy.


But UVA IS an Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:Relax. Every college has the same alcohol and drug scenes if that is what you want. Don’t be naive. Even Harvard as well as our precious UVA.

This is not true at all.

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Anonymous wrote:The DCUM college forum has been taken over by our grandmothers. All the talk about drinking is laughable. Kids drink in college. Period. They always have. UVA is no different.

Do they do big time coke at all colleges?

The schools with big social scenes have the same amount of drinking and drugs.

Do you have a cite for this claim?

DP here. What is your source that only UVA students use drugs?

Cite where that claim was made. Then cite the drug use is the same at all big colleges.

I think YOU on are drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:Relax. Every college has the same alcohol and drug scenes if that is what you want. Don’t be naive. Even Harvard as well as our precious UVA.

This is not true at all.

Of course it's true and my kid went to UVA, I went to Harvard, and a SLAC. Another DS went to GMU. They all have the same problem. Interestingly, UVA kid is now at Oxford, where they have a REAL drinking problem. The problem is your own kid and their susceptibility, as well as how you raised them to make good adulting decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:The DCUM college forum has been taken over by our grandmothers. All the talk about drinking is laughable. Kids drink in college. Period. They always have. UVA is no different.

Do they do big time coke at all colleges?

The schools with big social scenes have the same amount of drinking and drugs.

Do you have a cite for this claim?

DP here. What is your source that only UVA students use drugs?

Cite where that claim was made. Then cite the drug use is the same at all big colleges.

I think YOU on are drugs.

You must not have a cite. At least we know you were making shit up.

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Why do folks worry about fit before even getting accepted? And if kid doesn’t get accepted or doesn’t have the stats, and the excuse is “the school was not a good fit”. Get accepted first then actually go visit the school and attend some live classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do folks worry about fit before even getting accepted? And if kid doesn’t get accepted or doesn’t have the stats, and the excuse is “the school was not a good fit”. Get accepted first then actually go visit the school and attend some live classes.

This precisely. But EA not ED if you are unsure, obviously. But OP sounds pretty new to all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:The DCUM college forum has been taken over by our grandmothers. All the talk about drinking is laughable. Kids drink in college. Period. They always have. UVA is no different.

Do they do big time coke at all colleges?

The schools with big social scenes have the same amount of drinking and drugs.

Do you have a cite for this claim?

DP here. What is your source that only UVA students use drugs?

Cite where that claim was made. Then cite the drug use is the same at all big colleges.

I think YOU on are drugs.

You must not have a cite. At least we know you were making shit up.

No one needs a cite that most large colleges (and plenty of the small ones too) are going to have some kids using alcohol and drugs. You are the one trying to claim otherwise.

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I think you compare the stats of what you and he would like to have in a college. Decide what is most important. Besides that, it’s a feel from the visit. It’s not uncommon to hear about transfers if the first semester in college if it wasn’t a fit.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do folks worry about fit before even getting accepted? And if kid doesn’t get accepted or doesn’t have the stats, and the excuse is “the school was not a good fit”. Get accepted first then actually go visit the school and attend some live classes.

They worry about fit when talking about ED. If you get in, you are going so you better feel comfortable with the school environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years.

That sounds freaking miserable. Why do this to yourself?

Means to an end.

+1

Much smarter to go to a good school, even if it's not the "top fit" and graduate debt free (or minimal debt) than spend the next 10 years paying back massive debt. That is literally what most kids attending college do---they attend where they can afford, which is often in-state at the best option their state offers and they can gain admission to

But why can’t students look at options that cost about the same as UVA if they really just don’t like UVA?

My friend’s daughter just wanted to get out of VA and applied to state flagships and similar size schools elsewhere and the cost after merit was very similar.

Who said they can't?

The people who think you should just ignore fit and be forced to go somewhere because mommy and daddy deem it your best choice

Saying you should go in-state or find merit does not mean "ignoring fit" (which is way over-hyped anyway.)

you're still using the argument that fit is overblown, when the original post I objected to was "Sometimes schools aren't a great "fit". Work through it. Get your degree and get out. Its only 4 years."

I think in the end, this kid doesn't like UVA. Then kid doesn't need to apply there. Maybe W&M or Tech would be better if it HAS to be an in-state school.

I know plenty of kids who went to Pitt or OH State or UMass or the like with merit when they didn't like their VA choices/needed out, and they were perfectly happy with their choices.

W&M is definitely a better fit if your child is one of the DMV “introvert” types. You know what I mean.