Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

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Anonymous wrote:Can the playing down grade guy stick to one thread at this point? I don't want to have to report all your posts, but it's incredibly annoying how you've messed up several threads.

I think they're right which would make you wrong. So please stop messing up the threads.

Trying to sandbag kids that aren't yours by trying to shame them into playing up and then inventing some special recruiting process that doesn't exist to help your DD is horrible.

Fighting against SY with players playing up (not down) on teams that are their grade in school is the sandbag/dirtbag way to get GY Showcaases.

For parents that dont know GY means grade in school as the only qualifier for eligibility. This guy wants club soccer showcases to be like HS soccer where players might be 2+ years older all playing on the same teams in front of college coaches.

You made a leap. And PP mentioned showcases aren't what you think they are. For the record, could care less about how they run showcases or IDs.

You will when your kid gets older and you're paying for showcases.

Here's what will happen if ECNL implemented GY showcases. Coaches would have their hands out and certain players who's parernts pay the troll toll will get to pay on Sophmore GY teams 3 years in a row in front of college scouts.

Or coaches will use Showcase attendance/roster spots as recruitment tools. Which you get to pay for but your kid may or may not be able to attend. GY shocases are a scam waiting to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Bunch of PPs illustrated how you are misunderstanding actual recruitment.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Bunch of PPs illustrated how you are misunderstanding actual recruitment.

He's wearing obtuse as a badge of honor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about creating your own special thread that is exclusively about Aug-Sept grade-related issues?

This thread was/is? aiming for people to share what's actually happening, not what should or should not happen, based on opinions.

yeah it is turning into the ECNL SY thread. Just use that one y'all. Near me VRSC:

VRSC: https://varevolution.com/age-groups/
"What if my son or daughter wants to stay with their current teammates?

The default placement for 2026/27 will be for all players to align to their new age group. Exceptions will be limited and handled on a case-by-case basis in coordination with the player's Age Group Director and the Technical Director."

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

Correct!

But with BY you cant play down. Its just not possible.

With GY you can play down but youd need to be held back a grade (or two) in school.

With SY if you're a certain grade but born Aug/Sept on the young side you might potentially play on a grade down team.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

Correct!

But with BY you cant play down. Its just not possible.

With GY you can play down but youd need to be held back a grade (or two) in school.

With SY if you're a certain grade but born Aug/Sept on the young side you might potentially play on a grade down team.

Its not playing down if the age cutoff dictates your August birthday plays U-Whatever

That aside, your mental gymnastics is a waste of time

College Coaches are going after the best players that suit their program's needs and have already been contacted by the interested players. They know exactly who the players are and when they graduate and have already deemed their skillset good enough for them.

Your hypotheticals are nonsense to type during your lunchbreak

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about creating your own special thread that is exclusively about Aug-Sept grade-related issues?

This thread was/is? aiming for people to share what's actually happening, not what should or should not happen, based on opinions.

yeah it is turning into the ECNL SY thread. Just use that one y'all. Near me VRSC:

VRSC: https://varevolution.com/age-groups/
"What if my son or daughter wants to stay with their current teammates?

The default placement for 2026/27 will be for all players to align to their new age group. Exceptions will be limited and handled on a case-by-case basis in coordination with the player's Age Group Director and the Technical Director."

Case-by-case ... That makes sense, similar to Arlington. Thanks for sharing.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

Correct!

But with BY you cant play down. Its just not possible.

With GY you can play down but youd need to be held back a grade (or two) in school.

With SY if you're a certain grade but born Aug/Sept on the young side you might potentially play on a grade down team.

Its not playing down if the age cutoff dictates your August birthday plays U-Whatever

That aside, your mental gymnastics is a waste of time

College Coaches are going after the best players that suit their program's needs and have already been contacted by the interested players. They know exactly who the players are and when they graduate and have already deemed their skillset good enough for them.

Your hypotheticals are nonsense to type during your lunchbreak

Yea you're right college coaches definitely want to recruit a player thats playing a grade down while ignoring the 100s of other players in the same grade playing on a team thats their grade in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

Correct!

But with BY you cant play down. Its just not possible.

With GY you can play down but youd need to be held back a grade (or two) in school.

With SY if you're a certain grade but born Aug/Sept on the young side you might potentially play on a grade down team.

Its not playing down if the age cutoff dictates your August birthday plays U-Whatever

That aside, your mental gymnastics is a waste of time

College Coaches are going after the best players that suit their program's needs and have already been contacted by the interested players. They know exactly who the players are and when they graduate and have already deemed their skillset good enough for them.

Your hypotheticals are nonsense to type during your lunchbreak

Yea you're right college coaches definitely want to recruit a player thats playing a grade down while ignoring the 100s of other players in the same grade playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Though this is waste of time to tell you, college coaches are recruiting trapped players today and have been for years

A 2010 November player is a grade lower than a February 2010 player in school today

The college coaches know that and they will recruit both based on their graduating year.

This is above your IQ obviously but you'll survive, maybe

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

Correct!

But with BY you cant play down. Its just not possible.

With GY you can play down but youd need to be held back a grade (or two) in school.

With SY if you're a certain grade but born Aug/Sept on the young side you might potentially play on a grade down team.

Its not playing down if the age cutoff dictates your August birthday plays U-Whatever

That aside, your mental gymnastics is a waste of time

College Coaches are going after the best players that suit their program's needs and have already been contacted by the interested players. They know exactly who the players are and when they graduate and have already deemed their skillset good enough for them.

Your hypotheticals are nonsense to type during your lunchbreak

Yea you're right college coaches definitely want to recruit a player thats playing a grade down while ignoring the 100s of other players in the same grade playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Though this is waste of time to tell you, college coaches are recruiting trapped players today and have been for years

A 2010 November player is a grade lower than a February 2010 player in school today

The college coaches know that and they will recruit both based on their graduating year.

This is above your IQ obviously but you'll survive, maybe

Might want to check your own IQ

In BY trapped players are playing up a grade.

In SY trapped players (if you want to call them that) are playing down a grade.

The difference is with SY "trapped players" can play up on a team their grade in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about creating your own special thread that is exclusively about Aug-Sept grade-related issues?

This thread was/is? aiming for people to share what's actually happening, not what should or should not happen, based on opinions.

https://arlingtonsoccer.com/programs/travel/age-group-transition

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group.

If English isn't your first language, note that may can be replaced with may not making the statement pointless or unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Does ecnl going from BY to SY age cutoff change my DC's HS graduation year?

If not, why would college recruiters be confused about when they're graduating?

There is no confusion. Recruiters deal with mixed grad years now. Recruiters already know which players they plan to watch before they even get to the game. It’s a non issue.

Currently mixed team (trapped) players are playing up. With SY mixed team players will be playing down. Which is not desirable and why college coaches will ignore them.

Trapped players are playing their Birth Year, not up.

College coaches only care about the year players graduate HS so yea, from their perspective BY trapped players are playing up.

The college coach knows exactly who they're coming to watch

Been repeated here at nauseum

Which is why clubs playing players on a grade down team screws up their ability to get recruited.

You make absolutely no sense whatsoever

The coach comes out to watch specific recruiting targets based on information they already have
The main one being Graduation Year

It does not matter which club team they are on

You think you can sneak it by a college coachs atrention that you're playing on a grade down level? They'll figure it out quickly and move on to a different player thats playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Clubs don't go by grade level and have nothing to do with school

The coaches know exactly who they're their to watch and when they're graduating

What about this fact is lost on you?

What dont you understand. College coaches arent going to accommodate a player thats X grade in school but playing down a level in club.

If you're playing down in club, then college coaches wouldn't be recruiting you anyway

BY or SY or GY

Correct!

But with BY you cant play down. Its just not possible.

With GY you can play down but youd need to be held back a grade (or two) in school.

With SY if you're a certain grade but born Aug/Sept on the young side you might potentially play on a grade down team.

Its not playing down if the age cutoff dictates your August birthday plays U-Whatever

That aside, your mental gymnastics is a waste of time

College Coaches are going after the best players that suit their program's needs and have already been contacted by the interested players. They know exactly who the players are and when they graduate and have already deemed their skillset good enough for them.

Your hypotheticals are nonsense to type during your lunchbreak

Yea you're right college coaches definitely want to recruit a player thats playing a grade down while ignoring the 100s of other players in the same grade playing on a team thats their grade in school.

Though this is waste of time to tell you, college coaches are recruiting trapped players today and have been for years

A 2010 November player is a grade lower than a February 2010 player in school today

The college coaches know that and they will recruit both based on their graduating year.

This is above your IQ obviously but you'll survive, maybe

Might want to check your own IQ

In BY trapped players are playing up a grade.

In SY trapped players (if you want to call them that) are playing down a grade.

The difference is with SY "trapped players" can play up on a team their grade in school.

You're assuming that the level of play at MLSN/GA/ECNL is that much different between age groups.