Do *any* straight women apply to Wellesley or the 7 sisters any more?

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Anonymous wrote:It is not different from any other elite schools. Kids don’t date any more whether they go to ivies or Wellesley. They are all so career focused now. In co-ed schools, girls still hang out with girls, and boys hang out with boys. No one has time for relationships or even hookups.

True. I have a daughter in a large public uni. It’s really hard to find guys. She is funny and objectively attractive but has been wholly unsuccessful (despite a lot of effort about which I feel like I have heard every detail).

This is also my daughter's experience too at a large state school. She is pretty, smart, thin but no luck with attracting any male interest. She has a pack of 12 close friends and they are all the same--no dating , no hooking up, no attention from guys and they are all objectively beautiful. So they continue to live their best life and have a lot of fun together.

Have women not picked up yet that post "me-too" they are now on the hook for approaching and asking men out?

I agree. I have two sons at elite schools, and they have not dated. The perception is that females are hostile to a boy’s interest or only want to date boys with a car and money and/or who are ambitious about making a lot of money and have a plan to get there. I understand that money makes the world go round, but most 18-22 year olds have no idea what they want to do with their life. Basically, most boys feel like the threshold to date nowadays is so high that they’re better off focusing on themselves and their friends and revisiting dating in their mid- to late-20s when they have a better perspective on their life and they can “measure up” to a girls expectations. Ironically, by that time many women might have adjusted their expectations too.

So do they plan to be celibate until their mid to late 20s? Curious what the thinking is.

They would prefer not to be, but they feel like (whether true or not) they are one misinterpreted step from being called a rapist and expelled from school. That feeling is pervasive, even amongst kids from liberal homes. Basically, if a girl isn’t actively asking for sex, you best not touch.

Gently, it’s possible that they are not being completely transparent about their sex and dating life with their mother.

Uh, no. Talk to some guys at better schools and you’ll find this feeling pervasive.

Who exactly are YOU that multiple “guys at better schools” are talking to you about their sex lives?

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Anonymous wrote:It is not different from any other elite schools. Kids don’t date any more whether they go to ivies or Wellesley. They are all so career focused now. In co-ed schools, girls still hang out with girls, and boys hang out with boys. No one has time for relationships or even hookups.

True. I have a daughter in a large public uni. It’s really hard to find guys. She is funny and objectively attractive but has been wholly unsuccessful (despite a lot of effort about which I feel like I have heard every detail).

This is also my daughter's experience too at a large state school. She is pretty, smart, thin but no luck with attracting any male interest. She has a pack of 12 close friends and they are all the same--no dating , no hooking up, no attention from guys and they are all objectively beautiful. So they continue to live their best life and have a lot of fun together.

Have women not picked up yet that post "me-too" they are now on the hook for approaching and asking men out?

I agree. I have two sons at elite schools, and they have not dated. The perception is that females are hostile to a boy’s interest or only want to date boys with a car and money and/or who are ambitious about making a lot of money and have a plan to get there. I understand that money makes the world go round, but most 18-22 year olds have no idea what they want to do with their life. Basically, most boys feel like the threshold to date nowadays is so high that they’re better off focusing on themselves and their friends and revisiting dating in their mid- to late-20s when they have a better perspective on their life and they can “measure up” to a girls expectations. Ironically, by that time many women might have adjusted their expectations too.

So do they plan to be celibate until their mid to late 20s? Curious what the thinking is.

They would prefer not to be, but they feel like (whether true or not) they are one misinterpreted step from being called a rapist and expelled from school. That feeling is pervasive, even amongst kids from liberal homes. Basically, if a girl isn’t actively asking for sex, you best not touch.

Gently, it’s possible that they are not being completely transparent about their sex and dating life with their mother.

Bingo !

Unusual for a straight female to attend an all female school unless that female is ridiculed/made fun of by males and wants a safe environment.

All female schools are great for lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgender students. Not so great for straight females (due to both lack of males as well as risk of sexual assault by other students. Do research before dismissing the concern about sexual assault by females upon females.)

You are writing a response to a response about straight men, not about women.

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All female schools are great for lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgender students. Not so great for straight females (due to both lack of males as well as risk of sexual assault by other students. Do research before dismissing the concern about sexual assault by females upon females.)

What!? Oh yes, the epidemic of 'female upon female" sexual assault. If anyone needs to do research, it is YOU. So I guess these women's colleges are terribly unsafe places for women due to "female upon female" sexual assault!? Get a life.

"Sexual assault is defined as any unwanted sexual contact, including sexual grabbing, kissing, fondling, and rape (Criminal Code of Canada—Section 271—Sexual Assault, 2018). It is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females (National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, 2015) and predicated on power and control (Gravelin et al., 2019)."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136376/

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All female schools are great for lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgender students. Not so great for straight females (due to both lack of males as well as risk of sexual assault by other students. Do research before dismissing the concern about sexual assault by females upon females.)

What!? Oh yes, the epidemic of 'female upon female" sexual assault. If anyone needs to do research, it is YOU. So I guess these women's colleges are terribly unsafe places for women due to "female upon female" sexual assault!? Get a life.

"Sexual assault is defined as any unwanted sexual contact, including sexual grabbing, kissing, fondling, and rape (Criminal Code of Canada—Section 271—Sexual Assault, 2018). It is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females (National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, 2015) and predicated on power and control (Gravelin et al., 2019)."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136376/

For those in the back: sexual assault is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females

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All female schools are great for lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgender students. Not so great for straight females (due to both lack of males as well as risk of sexual assault by other students. Do research before dismissing the concern about sexual assault by females upon females.)

What!? Oh yes, the epidemic of 'female upon female" sexual assault. If anyone needs to do research, it is YOU. So I guess these women's colleges are terribly unsafe places for women due to "female upon female" sexual assault!? Get a life.

"Sexual assault is defined as any unwanted sexual contact, including sexual grabbing, kissing, fondling, and rape (Criminal Code of Canada—Section 271—Sexual Assault, 2018). It is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females (National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, 2015) and predicated on power and control (Gravelin et al., 2019)."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136376/

For those in the back: sexual assault is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females

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All female schools are great for lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgender students. Not so great for straight females (due to both lack of males as well as risk of sexual assault by other students. Do research before dismissing the concern about sexual assault by females upon females.)

What!? Oh yes, the epidemic of 'female upon female" sexual assault. If anyone needs to do research, it is YOU. So I guess these women's colleges are terribly unsafe places for women due to "female upon female" sexual assault!? Get a life.

"Sexual assault is defined as any unwanted sexual contact, including sexual grabbing, kissing, fondling, and rape (Criminal Code of Canada—Section 271—Sexual Assault, 2018). It is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females (National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, 2015) and predicated on power and control (Gravelin et al., 2019)."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136376/

For those in the back: sexual assault is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females

There is research that shows as many as 1 in 4 college women will be sexually assaulted or harassed. So the ~15 women’s colleges are the problem, but not the 2500+ co-ed colleges where sexual violence is rampant and often unchecked for perpetrators. Got it….

The thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia with a small veneer of fetishization of lesbians/bisexual women is odd. The topic always comes up even without women’s colleges. But, there’s no fear of their precious straight boys experimenting. If your son is in a frat he’s at high risk of sexual violence, too. Don’t worry if your kid is LGBTQ+ or not. Just love them and be proud of them for going to college and doing what they want in safe and healthy manner. THAT’S what you’re there for. Take off the training wheels instead of breathing down their necks for goodness sake. You people disgust me for talking about young adults this way.

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All female schools are great for lesbians, bi-sexual, and transgender students. Not so great for straight females (due to both lack of males as well as risk of sexual assault by other students. Do research before dismissing the concern about sexual assault by females upon females.)

What!? Oh yes, the epidemic of 'female upon female" sexual assault. If anyone needs to do research, it is YOU. So I guess these women's colleges are terribly unsafe places for women due to "female upon female" sexual assault!? Get a life.

"Sexual assault is defined as any unwanted sexual contact, including sexual grabbing, kissing, fondling, and rape (Criminal Code of Canada—Section 271—Sexual Assault, 2018). It is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females (National Sexual Violence Resource Centre, 2015) and predicated on power and control (Gravelin et al., 2019)."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9136376/

For those in the back: sexual assault is a gendered crime that is disproportionately perpetrated by males against females

No. Disproportionately perpetrated by males against males. Women only colleges has zero sexual assault crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are you really asking? Whether your daughter will be recruited to the other side by a butch lesbian?

Funnily enough, this is something that does happen and I'm sure it's a concern for mothers even though they'd never admit it. In an all female environment, there are straight identifying girls who will be attracted to and start experimenting with other girls, especially if those girls look a bit boyish. Most of the time this is a phase but sometimes it sticks.

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Anonymous wrote:I am interested in this, too. My DD loves the campus and academics but she's straight and wants a boyfriend.

I heard it used to be the best of both worlds with the bus that takes students to the MIT parties etc on the weekends, but I'm not sure that's as well attended anymore.

It seems like there are so many students that are either LGBTQ or international. If you have current info, please share!

Why does international matter?

lots of middle eastern/ asian people like the women's only college model- esp if kids going to be super far from home. unlike westerners they dont think anyone "turns" LGBTQ + and have already factored that in to their calculus but are pretty conservative otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:What are you really asking? Whether your daughter will be recruited to the other side by a butch lesbian?

Funnily enough, this is something that does happen and I'm sure it's a concern for mothers even though they'd never admit it. In an all female environment, there are straight identifying girls who will be attracted to and start experimenting with other girls, especially if those girls look a bit boyish. Most of the time this is a phase but sometimes it sticks.

Seems to be true.

Lots of reported cases of sexual assault at some of the all female schools (female assaulting female).

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DS is dating a girl who’s applying ED.

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Anonymous wrote:What are you really asking? Whether your daughter will be recruited to the other side by a butch lesbian?

Funnily enough, this is something that does happen and I'm sure it's a concern for mothers even though they'd never admit it. In an all female environment, there are straight identifying girls who will be attracted to and start experimenting with other girls, especially if those girls look a bit boyish. Most of the time this is a phase but sometimes it sticks.

Seems to be true.

Lots of reported cases of sexual assault at some of the all female schools (female assaulting female).

Lol, no. I'm talking about consensual experimentation, which there is lots of. You're beyond delusional if you genuinely believe that there's an epidemic of lesbians assaulting straight girls at all girls schools. Sexual assault is overwhelmingly a male on female crime. It's still the boys at the coed schools that you need to worry about around your daughters.

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Anonymous wrote:What are you really asking? Whether your daughter will be recruited to the other side by a butch lesbian?

Funnily enough, this is something that does happen and I'm sure it's a concern for mothers even though they'd never admit it. In an all female environment, there are straight identifying girls who will be attracted to and start experimenting with other girls, especially if those girls look a bit boyish. Most of the time this is a phase but sometimes it sticks.

Seems to be true.

Lots of reported cases of sexual assault at some of the all female schools (female assaulting female).

Lol, no. I'm talking about consensual experimentation, which there is lots of. You're beyond delusional if you genuinely believe that there's an epidemic of lesbians assaulting straight girls at all girls schools. Sexual assault is overwhelmingly a male on female crime. It's still the boys at the coed schools that you need to worry about around your daughters.

Certainly happened at Smith. So, believe what you want to believe, but others prefer to deal with reality.

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“I have been strongly considering Wellesley for my daughter“

Stopped reading after this. Land the helicopter.

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The women's colleges we looked at were all near coed collleges. My DD is happy at one, and she is dating a boy at nearby college. All her closest friends at her women's college are also straight. Yes there are many women for are LGBTQ and it's a great place for them, but they are by no means the only people there.