2nd round options for Crown/Damascus HS?

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That's interesting. Does JW not have capacity for the RPES kids? One of the reasons Dufief is being told it was pulled from Wootton is that it would make Frost over capacity (only Frost, not Wootton).

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Anonymous wrote:That's interesting. Does JW not have capacity for the RPES kids? One of the reasons Dufief is being told it was pulled from Wootton is that it would make Frost over capacity (only Frost, not Wootton).

JWMS is not over capacity in any of the future projections, so this is a head scratcher.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/planning/fy2027/CIP27_Chapter4_Richard-Montgomery-Cluster.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:That's interesting. Does JW not have capacity for the RPES kids? One of the reasons Dufief is being told it was pulled from Wootton is that it would make Frost over capacity (only Frost, not Wootton).

JWMS is not over capacity in any of the future projections, so this is a head scratcher.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/planning/fy2027/CIP27_Chapter4_Richard-Montgomery-Cluster.pdf

Also, if this is about proximity, then they should have RPES going to Wootton as well because Frost is literally right next to Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:That's interesting. Does JW not have capacity for the RPES kids? One of the reasons Dufief is being told it was pulled from Wootton is that it would make Frost over capacity (only Frost, not Wootton).

Where did you get that information

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Anonymous wrote:That's interesting. Does JW not have capacity for the RPES kids? One of the reasons Dufief is being told it was pulled from Wootton is that it would make Frost over capacity (only Frost, not Wootton).

JWMS is not over capacity in any of the future projections, so this is a head scratcher.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/planning/fy2027/CIP27_Chapter4_Richard-Montgomery-Cluster.pdf

Also, if this is about proximity, then they should have RPES going to Wootton as well because Frost is literally right next to Wootton.

I'm sure they won't do that because of FARMS rates at RMHS.
14.3% Ritchie Park
31% Beall
34.2% College Gardens
40.6% Bayard Rustin
71.8% Twinbrook

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Anonymous wrote:That's interesting. Does JW not have capacity for the RPES kids? One of the reasons Dufief is being told it was pulled from Wootton is that it would make Frost over capacity (only Frost, not Wootton).

JWMS is not over capacity in any of the future projections, so this is a head scratcher.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/planning/fy2027/CIP27_Chapter4_Richard-Montgomery-Cluster.pdf

Also, if this is about proximity, then they should have RPES going to Wootton as well because Frost is literally right next to Wootton.

I'm sure they won't do that because of FARMS rates at RMHS.
14.3% Ritchie Park
31% Beall
34.2% College Gardens
40.6% Bayard Rustin
71.8% Twinbrook

I would agree with you, but then it makes no sense to move them to Frost for the same reason.

Also, I'm surprised that Fallsgrove is not moving to Crown in any of the options given that the maps show it as a walk zone to Crown.

[Anonymous]

Are these 4 options replacing the previous six, or just an addition. I hate the website because it only shows the new 4, not all 10 together.

[Anonymous]

Replacing the first round options. They are only considering these new options now because of the new regional plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Replacing the first round options. They are only considering these new options now because of the new regional plan.

No more surprises?

[Anonymous]

They said at the meeting last night they could tweak the options. Or the board or superintendent could come up with their own version.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out — one of your “horrendous” initial options was where Ritchie Park would split in half and then half would go to CJMS and then on to RMHS.

In the new options, one option is exactly like that, but swap CJMS for RFMS, and the other three are almost as bad in terms of split articulation. What they are proposing to do to RPES makes zero sense.

Write in the survey. Julius West is not overcrowded so not sure why they need to do this.

Yes, I'm confused with the new options for RMHS cluster.

It seems like no area in RM is being zoned for Crown in the new options. RM is over capacity. Are they assuming that more students will choose programs in other schools than students choosing programs at RM? Maybe I missed something here. Can someone explain the RMHS boundary change, if any?

And as you stated, JWMS is not over capacity. So, why are they moving RPES to Frost?

RM was supposed to get an addition years ago due to overcrowding - they had the architectural plans and everything and then BoE scrapped it because of the Crown study. It makes no sense to not move some students from RM to Crown or another school since there has been overcrowding and Crown was supposed to address it instead of building the expansion - there are 10 portables in the parking lot now.

This +1. RM is the one that's overcrowding, and I'm very confused why it's currently over-utilized, but then all 4 options reach "under-utilization" without moving out any of its ESs?

Currently, around 30-40% of students in RMIB are from home schools that are not in Region 4 under the new proposed model. I suspect they will reduce the size of the IB program now that all students outside of Region 4 will be ineligible to apply, which will help with utilization

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out — one of your “horrendous” initial options was where Ritchie Park would split in half and then half would go to CJMS and then on to RMHS.

In the new options, one option is exactly like that, but swap CJMS for RFMS, and the other three are almost as bad in terms of split articulation. What they are proposing to do to RPES makes zero sense.

Write in the survey. Julius West is not overcrowded so not sure why they need to do this.

Yes, I'm confused with the new options for RMHS cluster.

It seems like no area in RM is being zoned for Crown in the new options. RM is over capacity. Are they assuming that more students will choose programs in other schools than students choosing programs at RM? Maybe I missed something here. Can someone explain the RMHS boundary change, if any?

And as you stated, JWMS is not over capacity. So, why are they moving RPES to Frost?

RM was supposed to get an addition years ago due to overcrowding - they had the architectural plans and everything and then BoE scrapped it because of the Crown study. It makes no sense to not move some students from RM to Crown or another school since there has been overcrowding and Crown was supposed to address it instead of building the expansion - there are 10 portables in the parking lot now.

This +1. RM is the one that's overcrowding, and I'm very confused why it's currently over-utilized, but then all 4 options reach "under-utilization" without moving out any of its ESs?

Currently, around 30-40% of students in RMIB are from home schools that are not in Region 4 under the new proposed model. I suspect they will reduce the size of the IB program now that all students outside of Region 4 will be ineligible to apply, which will help with utilization

Oh, all the 180 Wootton and Churchill students in Blair are heading back, and they likely won’t choose Wootton STEM at least in the first few years as that’ll be built from scratch and Wootton is in trouble of staffing recent years. RMIB will be hot.

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out — one of your “horrendous” initial options was where Ritchie Park would split in half and then half would go to CJMS and then on to RMHS.

In the new options, one option is exactly like that, but swap CJMS for RFMS, and the other three are almost as bad in terms of split articulation. What they are proposing to do to RPES makes zero sense.

Write in the survey. Julius West is not overcrowded so not sure why they need to do this.

Yes, I'm confused with the new options for RMHS cluster.

It seems like no area in RM is being zoned for Crown in the new options. RM is over capacity. Are they assuming that more students will choose programs in other schools than students choosing programs at RM? Maybe I missed something here. Can someone explain the RMHS boundary change, if any?

And as you stated, JWMS is not over capacity. So, why are they moving RPES to Frost?

RM was supposed to get an addition years ago due to overcrowding - they had the architectural plans and everything and then BoE scrapped it because of the Crown study. It makes no sense to not move some students from RM to Crown or another school since there has been overcrowding and Crown was supposed to address it instead of building the expansion - there are 10 portables in the parking lot now.

This +1. RM is the one that's overcrowding, and I'm very confused why it's currently over-utilized, but then all 4 options reach "under-utilization" without moving out any of its ESs?

Currently, around 30-40% of students in RMIB are from home schools that are not in Region 4 under the new proposed model. I suspect they will reduce the size of the IB program now that all students outside of Region 4 will be ineligible to apply, which will help with utilization

OK, so if they are planning to shrink the program size, I guess that could make sense, however, the majority of the RMIB students actually are from in cluster.

Someone posted a chart of the magnet program break out by HS. Can someone post that here?

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out — one of your “horrendous” initial options was where Ritchie Park would split in half and then half would go to CJMS and then on to RMHS.

In the new options, one option is exactly like that, but swap CJMS for RFMS, and the other three are almost as bad in terms of split articulation. What they are proposing to do to RPES makes zero sense.

Write in the survey. Julius West is not overcrowded so not sure why they need to do this.

Yes, I'm confused with the new options for RMHS cluster.

It seems like no area in RM is being zoned for Crown in the new options. RM is over capacity. Are they assuming that more students will choose programs in other schools than students choosing programs at RM? Maybe I missed something here. Can someone explain the RMHS boundary change, if any?

And as you stated, JWMS is not over capacity. So, why are they moving RPES to Frost?

RM was supposed to get an addition years ago due to overcrowding - they had the architectural plans and everything and then BoE scrapped it because of the Crown study. It makes no sense to not move some students from RM to Crown or another school since there has been overcrowding and Crown was supposed to address it instead of building the expansion - there are 10 portables in the parking lot now.

This +1. RM is the one that's overcrowding, and I'm very confused why it's currently over-utilized, but then all 4 options reach "under-utilization" without moving out any of its ESs?

Currently, around 30-40% of students in RMIB are from home schools that are not in Region 4 under the new proposed model. I suspect they will reduce the size of the IB program now that all students outside of Region 4 will be ineligible to apply, which will help with utilization

OK, so if they are planning to shrink the program size, I guess that could make sense, however, the majority of the RMIB students actually are from in cluster.

Someone posted a chart of the magnet program break out by HS. Can someone post that here?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf

Majority RMIB students are in cluster from RM, Churchill, and Wootton. But fair amount are from other schools like WJ, Northwest, QO, Damascus, and Clarksburg. It was pointed out in another thread that WJ is the clear loser in the regional model because those kids will essentially lose access to IB (i.e. they will only have access to Kennedy)

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out — one of your “horrendous” initial options was where Ritchie Park would split in half and then half would go to CJMS and then on to RMHS.

In the new options, one option is exactly like that, but swap CJMS for RFMS, and the other three are almost as bad in terms of split articulation. What they are proposing to do to RPES makes zero sense.

Write in the survey. Julius West is not overcrowded so not sure why they need to do this.

Yes, I'm confused with the new options for RMHS cluster.

It seems like no area in RM is being zoned for Crown in the new options. RM is over capacity. Are they assuming that more students will choose programs in other schools than students choosing programs at RM? Maybe I missed something here. Can someone explain the RMHS boundary change, if any?

And as you stated, JWMS is not over capacity. So, why are they moving RPES to Frost?

RM was supposed to get an addition years ago due to overcrowding - they had the architectural plans and everything and then BoE scrapped it because of the Crown study. It makes no sense to not move some students from RM to Crown or another school since there has been overcrowding and Crown was supposed to address it instead of building the expansion - there are 10 portables in the parking lot now.

This +1. RM is the one that's overcrowding, and I'm very confused why it's currently over-utilized, but then all 4 options reach "under-utilization" without moving out any of its ESs?

Currently, around 30-40% of students in RMIB are from home schools that are not in Region 4 under the new proposed model. I suspect they will reduce the size of the IB program now that all students outside of Region 4 will be ineligible to apply, which will help with utilization

OK, so if they are planning to shrink the program size, I guess that could make sense, however, the majority of the RMIB students actually are from in cluster.

Someone posted a chart of the magnet program break out by HS. Can someone post that here?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf

Majority RMIB students are in cluster from RM, Churchill, and Wootton. But fair amount are from other schools like WJ, Northwest, QO, Damascus, and Clarksburg. It was pointed out in another thread that WJ is the clear loser in the regional model because those kids will essentially lose access to IB (i.e. they will only have access to Kennedy)

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