US News top 50 colleges grouped by region- the south rises!

[Anonymous]

OK. How about these geographic regions for the top 50?


New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. How about these geographic regions for the top 50?


New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

Using these regions and assuming that the enrollment #s from chatgpt are correct...there are almost a million students enrolled in T50 universities.

Here is where the T50 students are enrolled:
Pacific 27%
Midwest 24%
Mid-Atlantic 20%
South 20%
New England 9%

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

!1 Thank you!

[Anonymous]

And drilling down a little more...there are ~250k students enrolled in the T25 universities.

Here's where the T25 students are enrolled:
Pacific 29%
Midwest 25%
Mid-Atlantic 24%
New England 12%
South 10%

[Anonymous]

Looking at average enrollments by region...

T50 Avg Enrollment
Pacific 25,070
Midwest 24,008
South 18,340
Mid-Atlantic 15,277
New England 9,036

T25 Avg Enrollment
Midwest 8,217
Mid-Atlantic 7,416
New England 6,475
South 6,375
Pacific 4,294

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

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The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

!1 Thank you!

Are any of you Southerners? Because I am, and no Southerner I know would call Georgetown, UMD or Johns Hopkins Southern schools. They're Northern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. How about these geographic regions for the top 50?


New England (CT, RI, MA, NH) -- 9
2 MIT
3 Harvard
4 Yale
13 Brown
13 Dartmouth
36 BC
36 Tufts
42 BU
46 Northeastern

Mid-Atlantic (MD, DC, PA, NJ, NY) -- 12
1 Princeton
7 Johns Hopkins
7 UPenn
12 Cornell
15 Columbia
20 Carnegie Mellon
24 Georgetown
32 NYU
42 Maryland
42 Rutgers
46 URochester
46 Lehigh

South (VA, NC, TN, GA, FL, TX) -- 10
7 Duke
17 Vanderbilt
17 Rice
24 Emory
26 UVA
26 UNC
30 UF
30 UT Austin
32 GA Tech
46 UGeorgia

Midwest (IN, IL, MI, MO, WI, OH) -- 9
6 UChicago
7 Northwestern
20 Notre Dame
20 UMich
20 WashU
36 UIUC
36 U Wisconsin
41 Ohio State
46 Perdue

West (CA, WA) -- 10
4 Stanford
11 Caltech
15 UC Berkeley
17 UCLA
28 USC
29 UCSD
32 UC Davis
32 UC Irvine
40 UCSB
42 UWashington

This is more sensible to me although NY stretches all the way to Canada and Rochester is way up there.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

As I stated - it's definitely more mid-Atlantic, but is absolutely not northeastern, if that's what you're trying to claim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

OP's "the south rises" wasn't in ANY way referring to the Civil War, you twit. She was talking about the rise of southern universities - and she's absolutely correct.

It's a phrase that refers to the post civil war tensions. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with American history, tw@t.

Wow. Your post speaks volumes about you. And yes, of course I'm familiar with our Civil War history and post-Civil War tensions. Grouping universities by geographical region has *zero* to do with that, as much as you would love to argue otherwise. It's too bad you're utterly triggered over a silly expression.

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Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

As I stated - it's definitely more mid-Atlantic, but is absolutely not northeastern, if that's what you're trying to claim.

We are claiming that it's mid-atlantic.

Unless you are tallying up various populations, which we aren't, the census regions aren't relevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.

LOL. No. And while "south" on a map, I would not count JHU, Gtown, UVA, UD, W&M as "southern" schools. If you're saying they are, you've obv never been to a true southern school.

I wouldn’t consider Duke a southern school either. It's a great school that geographically is in the south but in no way is it a "southern school."

It's amazing how hard some of you are teying to pretend certain schools aren't southern. Yes, like it or not, Duke and Emory are southern universities.

+1
The pretzel-twisting is comical. If a school is geographically in the south, it is a southern school. And to the PPP: UVA, W&M, VT and yes - Georgetown, are all considered southern schools. Georgetown is more mid-Atlantic but in no way is it considered the northeast.

There is no planet but yours where Georgetown is considered a southern school.

Assuming you live on the same planet as the federal workers at the census bureau, you need to accept the fact that Washington DC is considered to be located in the south, as is the state of Maryland. When those responsible for that information change their minds, then we can all reconsider Georgetown's location. For now, it's in the south.

Exactly.

Please go to Alabama and explain to them how Delaware is part of the South because government bureaucrat says so. You definitely won't be laughed at.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m from the Deep South and my kid looked at William and Mary. It didn’t feel so southern to us. We got a more mid-Atlantic suburban vibe from it. It’s all relative I guess.

We can all pick up on different vibes when we visit schools; but for purposes of OP's list, it's a southern school.

There is a difference between being “southern” and being in the south region of the US census.

Most people use cultural attributes to define “southern”, not just how the government rallies up the population. e.g. no one considers Delaware to be “southern”.

OP even makes reference to the civil war “south” which makes the census grouping even less relevant.

OP's "the south rises" wasn't in ANY way referring to the Civil War, you twit. She was talking about the rise of southern universities - and she's absolutely correct.

It's a phrase that refers to the post civil war tensions. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with American history, tw@t.

Wow. Your post speaks volumes about you. And yes, of course I'm familiar with our Civil War history and post-Civil War tensions. Grouping universities by geographical region has *zero* to do with that, as much as you would love to argue otherwise. It's too bad you're utterly triggered over a silly expression.

Stop being obtuse, tw@t. The phrase "the south rises" refers to the post civil war tensions.