Troll. That’s not a major. Find something else to do on a sat other than bumping up old posts. Lame. |
This is a huge underestimate. Much more than that got in a T20. |
Cal and UCLA are T20 so there's that as well. . . |
| 35 ACT and 3.7 UW GPA from a strong Boston private, average ECs, full pay girl - overshot ED, then did not get into any T 50 schools. Ended up at St Andrews |
Yikes. Major? |
| Numbers alone won’t do it at the most highly-ranked schools. Maybe it’s time for parents to de-emphasize rankings, since the top schools with some exceptions are de-emphasizing stats? I know several kids with high 1500’s, perfect grades, great EC’s who didn’t get into a T-20. (Not my kid- my kid was not in that top stats pool and that probably made the process easier for them). I was shocked and disappointed for those top kids. Things are really screwed up if college admissions is less stressful and disappointing for not-top kids. |
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About 50% of 1500+ sat applicants go to a t20
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1kygeez/at_least_48_of_1500_sat_applicants_go_to_a_t20/ About 80% of 1540+ sat applicants go to a t20 University 1500+ Class size % who submitted SAT #1500+ Brown 75%+ 1700 61 778 Caltech 75%+ 200 79 119 Carnegie Mellon 75%+ 1800 53 716 Columbia 75%+ 1500 40 450 Cornell 75%+ 3500 45 1182 Dartmouth 50%+ 1200 43 258 Duke 75%+ 1700 47 599 Emory 25%+ 1400 42 147 Georgetown 25%+ 1600 78 312 Harvard 75%+ 1600 52 624 Johns Hopkins 75%+ 1400 50 525 MIT 75%+ 1100 83 685 Northwestern 75%+ 2100 50 788 Notre Dame 50%+ 2000 31 310 NYU 50%+ 5800 27 783 Princeton 75%+ 1400 56 588 Rice 75%+ 1100 50 413 Stanford 75%+ 1700 50 638 UC Berkeley 25%+ 9100 21 478 UChicago 75%+ 1600 46 552 UCLA 25%+ 6600 18 297 UMich 25%+ 7300 18 329 UPenn 75%+ 2400 51 918 USC 50%+ 3600 32 576 UVirginia 25%+ 3900 46 449 Vanderbilt 75%+ 1600 25 300 WashU 75%+ 1800 29 392 Yale 75%+ 1500 61 686 |
Is that where they did get in, or where they didn’t get in when they expected to? I feel like OP asked two different questions. Title is where they didn’t get in, but the body says where they ended up, which is presumably a place they got in. |
Which T50s did she apply to? |
This is very very surprising. |
Depends, GPA doesn't tell us about course rigor or class rank. Those both matter a lot more than the raw numbers |
I am guessing counselor recommendation went wrong. Did you listen to counselor’s advice on ED school? If you insisted on overshooting, the counselor cannot support you on the recommendation. The consequence is that the same recommendation letter is sent to your ED school and RD schools. The 3.7 gpa at a rigorous school always guarantees a T50, sometimes a T20, absent grade inflation and when supported by counselor. |
this is the st Andrews basher. or she had terrible essays |
Recall that Cal and UCLA have other metrics that indicate high SAT scores despite being test blind, so the percentage is probably higher than just the percentage who submitted them for scholarship consideration. |
| It’s the joint/collective responsibility of the CC, parents and students to manage expectations. This crazy admissions environment has been around long enough now, for most people to know that is not as easy as it once was and that the old metrics/formulas don’t work. It’s really hard to tell your high achieving kid that there are thousands and thousands out there with the same or stronger profiles because you don’t want to take away from what they’ve accomplished. There’s that fine line between holding someone back and gently re-directing. I feel for all the parents out there as they navigate this strange new world of college admissions. |