Where do unconnected, top academic kids from a feeder private go to college?

[Anonymous]

For top kid like this, is ED to WASP wasted? Mine has fallen in love with Williams. Sigh.
#1 in competitive private. Also robotics, honor council, lots of sports with sportsmanship awards but not recruitable. But most kids who go to WASP from school are recruited athletes, so hard to gauge for non athlete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know where connected/legacy/big donors’ kids go. How about academic superstars who are unconnected and full pay with top teachers’ recs? This is a kid loved by teachers in the toughest most advanced subjects, asked to be TA where 95% of classes don’t have a student TA, who has 3.9 GPA where no one gets a 4.0. Otherwise unconnected, no sport, not URM, nothing special ECs (head of robotics club, part-time job type stuff). We know it won’t be Ivies, Stanford, MIT, but where? School sends at least 20% to top 10 schools each year, 50% to top 25; we imagine they are mostly legacy.

UNconnected true TOP kids from feederish privates go to ivies, 5-15% depending on level of feederish (up to 30% counting hooks--over half are usually hooked). Ours sends only 2-3 (3%)kids a year who are unconnected, 3-4 more who are hooked. The 2-3 are superstars though, academically top rigor all 5s etc and they have impactful ECs, usually two big things they are involved in and can speak about intelligently. The rigor and grades matter more than ECs but they need ECs.
You know if your kid is in the very top group: the college dean at the private makes it clear, as do teachers, often "off the record". No idea why you would say it won't be ivies at a school that sends so many to T10: even with weaker ECs he should have a decent shot with that many who go. That is a huge feeder school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For top kid like this, is ED to WASP wasted? Mine has fallen in love with Williams. Sigh.
#1 in competitive private. Also robotics, honor council, lots of sports with sportsmanship awards but not recruitable. But most kids who go to WASP from school are recruited athletes, so hard to gauge for non athlete.

#1 top kids get into WASP in RD all the time at our school (top kids usually ED to an ivy if they have a favorite or ED no where and take their shot with RD), and some from top 5 or so. For ED one can get in a little below that. Your kid should be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know where connected/legacy/big donors’ kids go. How about academic superstars who are unconnected and full pay with top teachers’ recs? This is a kid loved by teachers in the toughest most advanced subjects, asked to be TA where 95% of classes don’t have a student TA, who has 3.9 GPA where no one gets a 4.0. Otherwise unconnected, no sport, not URM, nothing special ECs (head of robotics club, part-time job type stuff). We know it won’t be Ivies, Stanford, MIT, but where? School sends at least 20% to top 10 schools each year, 50% to top 25; we imagine they are mostly legacy.

UNconnected true TOP kids from feederish privates go to ivies, 5-15% depending on level of feederish (up to 30% counting hooks--over half are usually hooked). Ours sends only 2-3 (3%)kids a year who are unconnected, 3-4 more who are hooked. The 2-3 are superstars though, academically top rigor all 5s etc and they have impactful ECs, usually two big things they are involved in and can speak about intelligently. The rigor and grades matter more than ECs but they need ECs.
You know if your kid is in the very top group: the college dean at the private makes it clear, as do teachers, often "off the record". No idea why you would say it won't be ivies at a school that sends so many to T10: even with weaker ECs he should have a decent shot with that many who go. That is a huge feeder school.

Anyone familiar with feeder schools knows that. OP is a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For top kid like this, is ED to WASP wasted? Mine has fallen in love with Williams. Sigh.
#1 in competitive private. Also robotics, honor council, lots of sports with sportsmanship awards but not recruitable. But most kids who go to WASP from school are recruited athletes, so hard to gauge for non athlete.

not wasted if it's their favorite.

if you're not "gaming" ed - then there's no real boost at most tip tops. SCEA at HYP not a boost. Not at MIT. Not at Stanford. Not at WASP.

but that also means your RD odds are no better or worse.

ED is best used for your top pick. So do Williams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For top kid like this, is ED to WASP wasted? Mine has fallen in love with Williams. Sigh.
#1 in competitive private. Also robotics, honor council, lots of sports with sportsmanship awards but not recruitable. But most kids who go to WASP from school are recruited athletes, so hard to gauge for non athlete.

Williams flat out says at the admissions session no advantage for unhooked allying early but of truly first choice, why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know where connected/legacy/big donors’ kids go. How about academic superstars who are unconnected and full pay with top teachers’ recs? This is a kid loved by teachers in the toughest most advanced subjects, asked to be TA where 95% of classes don’t have a student TA, who has 3.9 GPA where no one gets a 4.0. Otherwise unconnected, no sport, not URM, nothing special ECs (head of robotics club, part-time job type stuff). We know it won’t be Ivies, Stanford, MIT, but where? School sends at least 20% to top 10 schools each year, 50% to top 25; we imagine they are mostly legacy.

UNconnected true TOP kids from feederish privates go to ivies, 5-15% depending on level of feederish (up to 30% counting hooks--over half are usually hooked). Ours sends only 2-3 (3%)kids a year who are unconnected, 3-4 more who are hooked. The 2-3 are superstars though, academically top rigor all 5s etc and they have impactful ECs, usually two big things they are involved in and can speak about intelligently. The rigor and grades matter more than ECs but they need ECs.
You know if your kid is in the very top group: the college dean at the private makes it clear, as do teachers, often "off the record". No idea why you would say it won't be ivies at a school that sends so many to T10: even with weaker ECs he should have a decent shot with that many who go. That is a huge feeder school.

I think the ecs don’t sound T10 ish but can’t hurt to try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know where connected/legacy/big donors’ kids go. How about academic superstars who are unconnected and full pay with top teachers’ recs? This is a kid loved by teachers in the toughest most advanced subjects, asked to be TA where 95% of classes don’t have a student TA, who has 3.9 GPA where no one gets a 4.0. Otherwise unconnected, no sport, not URM, nothing special ECs (head of robotics club, part-time job type stuff). We know it won’t be Ivies, Stanford, MIT, but where? School sends at least 20% to top 10 schools each year, 50% to top 25; we imagine they are mostly legacy.

UNconnected true TOP kids from feederish privates go to ivies, 5-15% depending on level of feederish (up to 30% counting hooks--over half are usually hooked). Ours sends only 2-3 (3%)kids a year who are unconnected, 3-4 more who are hooked. The 2-3 are superstars though, academically top rigor all 5s etc and they have impactful ECs, usually two big things they are involved in and can speak about intelligently. The rigor and grades matter more than ECs but they need ECs.
You know if your kid is in the very top group: the college dean at the private makes it clear, as do teachers, often "off the record". No idea why you would say it won't be ivies at a school that sends so many to T10: even with weaker ECs he should have a decent shot with that many who go. That is a huge feeder school.

Anyone familiar with feeder schools knows that. OP is a troll.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For top kid like this, is ED to WASP wasted? Mine has fallen in love with Williams. Sigh.
#1 in competitive private. Also robotics, honor council, lots of sports with sportsmanship awards but not recruitable. But most kids who go to WASP from school are recruited athletes, so hard to gauge for non athlete.

If it is their favorite give it a go. Our Val went to Williams last year, really smart girl, good ECs but not athletic. We send several to other top SLACs (top NESCAC, Wellesley, Pomona, etc.) but they all tend to fit the same profile which is top 20% ancademics and athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For top kid like this, is ED to WASP wasted? Mine has fallen in love with Williams. Sigh.
#1 in competitive private. Also robotics, honor council, lots of sports with sportsmanship awards but not recruitable. But most kids who go to WASP from school are recruited athletes, so hard to gauge for non athlete.

If it is their favorite give it a go. Our Val went to Williams last year, really smart girl, good ECs but not athletic. We send several to other top SLACs (top NESCAC, Wellesley, Pomona, etc.) but they all tend to fit the same profile which is top 20% ancademics and athletes.

AND or OR?