Parent advocates who lobbied for Away All Day phone policy feel blindsided, ignored by new MCPS phone policy

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Raise your kids to pay attention in class, people. Or sufficiently so that they get good grades. We're an ADHD family, and even my kid with severe ADHD was able to tear himself away from his phone, listen to his teachers and do the actual work. He graduated with a 4.67 weighted GPA and a dozen APs.

Public schools do a lot for students, but at some point you need to live with system-wide decisions you won't like. Pull yourself together and deal with it.

Your kid doesn’t have severe ADHD.

PP you replied to. You want to see his neuropsychological results? You are being extremely offensive and have no clue about the hard work we put in, as a family, and the hard work he put in, plus the judicious use of Adderall.

Shame on you. Don't you dare minimize other people's struggles just because they have pushed themselves to achieve.

You actually minimize other people’s struggles when you claim that your kid has a “severe” neurodevelopmental disorder yet can get a 4.9 with multiple APs … and has no problem with distractions like cell phones. Lol.

DP.

It was a 4.67 and "severe" case of the zoomies, not level 3 autism.

As someone with severe adhd who went to Yale that PP should STFU—they clearly don’t know that people with adhd can have high IQ. I’m very dependent on my phone as an adult professional with adhd. It was recommended to my kid as part of their accommodations.

I totally believe you, since you clearly couldn’t get focused enough to read that 504 plans are not affected by the new policy. If you child has a 504 plan that includes use of a phone, your child can use it in class. I’m also saddened that a presumed graduate of Yale would write so poorly to not agree the introductory phrase with the subject.

No 504 plan should include use of a phone. FFS.

seriously...what disability requires that a personal cell phone must be used during school hours?

Glucose monitoring, for one. Medication reminders. Visual assistance for low vision and blind students.

How did students manage these things...oh... 15 years ago? Or children without a smart phone?

Sometimes they ended up in a hospital or even dead because their glucose was too low or too high. At the very least, they often had worse and delayed information that meant worse control of conditions like diabetes. By chance, are you Maurice Ronald?

Growing up our school had a few pay phones to call parents. My kid was fed food by a teacher they thought they should not eat and asked and teacher said it was fine. Kid asked to go to the nurse as they thought they were having a reaction and teacher said no because it was too close to pick up. When I picked my child up they were having a full on reaction and it was a long night at the ER getting it under control. So, yes, my kid has a watch to call me.

At my kid's ES, we don't have food at school parties, school birthday treats, or any outside food distributed to kids by teachers to avoid any issues with allergies etc. A HS kid should absolutely know not to accept food that causes an issue for a health condition rather than accepting to be "fed food" by a teacher. If your kid's food issue is so severe, many kids with allergies have 504s allowing for accommodations. No reason why your kid couldn't get a 504, rather than insisting that all kids use phones, just because your kid needs one due to their specific health condition.

The teacher bought the food and gave it to my child who expressed concern and she said they can eat it. In hs, we’ve had other emergencies. We had a 504 at the time. We dropped it as it was useless. You need to monitor your kid. If my kid abuses the phone or for other reasons we take it and lock it away. They have a watch to contact us. Try parenting.

You need to monitor an elementary school kid. By high school, anyone with a life-threatening allergy needs to be able to advocate and fend for themselves. Why should a kid that age be calling you on their cellphone to tell you they need to use an epi pen? By the time you were able to help them, it would be too late.

That’s great but not all kids of any age can advocate for themselves and I was to know asap. Don’t trust mcps.

Why don't you "try parenting" as you told people upthread? You're telling parents to monitor how kids use of an electronic device when they're not around their kids, and you aren't able to teach your kid to be careful when eating potential life threatening allergens.

You do realize some kids have special needs, espeially in the younger grades and cannot advocate for themselves. Stay blessed.

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My HS kid uses her phone throughout the day in class for class outside of class during lunch. Teachers don't care at all and occasionally reprimand. MCPS scores reflect this and a new study showed improvement elsewhere were they were banned.

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Raise your kids to pay attention in class, people. Or sufficiently so that they get good grades. We're an ADHD family, and even my kid with severe ADHD was able to tear himself away from his phone, listen to his teachers and do the actual work. He graduated with a 4.67 weighted GPA and a dozen APs.

Public schools do a lot for students, but at some point you need to live with system-wide decisions you won't like. Pull yourself together and deal with it.

Your kid doesn’t have severe ADHD.

PP you replied to. You want to see his neuropsychological results? You are being extremely offensive and have no clue about the hard work we put in, as a family, and the hard work he put in, plus the judicious use of Adderall.

Shame on you. Don't you dare minimize other people's struggles just because they have pushed themselves to achieve.

You actually minimize other people’s struggles when you claim that your kid has a “severe” neurodevelopmental disorder yet can get a 4.9 with multiple APs … and has no problem with distractions like cell phones. Lol.

DP.

It was a 4.67 and "severe" case of the zoomies, not level 3 autism.

As someone with severe adhd who went to Yale that PP should STFU—they clearly don’t know that people with adhd can have high IQ. I’m very dependent on my phone as an adult professional with adhd. It was recommended to my kid as part of their accommodations.

I totally believe you, since you clearly couldn’t get focused enough to read that 504 plans are not affected by the new policy. If you child has a 504 plan that includes use of a phone, your child can use it in class. I’m also saddened that a presumed graduate of Yale would write so poorly to not agree the introductory phrase with the subject.

No 504 plan should include use of a phone. FFS.

seriously...what disability requires that a personal cell phone must be used during school hours?

Glucose monitoring, for one. Medication reminders. Visual assistance for low vision and blind students.

How did students manage these things...oh... 15 years ago? Or children without a smart phone?

Sometimes they ended up in a hospital or even dead because their glucose was too low or too high. At the very least, they often had worse and delayed information that meant worse control of conditions like diabetes. By chance, are you Maurice Ronald?

Growing up our school had a few pay phones to call parents. My kid was fed food by a teacher they thought they should not eat and asked and teacher said it was fine. Kid asked to go to the nurse as they thought they were having a reaction and teacher said no because it was too close to pick up. When I picked my child up they were having a full on reaction and it was a long night at the ER getting it under control. So, yes, my kid has a watch to call me.

At my kid's ES, we don't have food at school parties, school birthday treats, or any outside food distributed to kids by teachers to avoid any issues with allergies etc. A HS kid should absolutely know not to accept food that causes an issue for a health condition rather than accepting to be "fed food" by a teacher. If your kid's food issue is so severe, many kids with allergies have 504s allowing for accommodations. No reason why your kid couldn't get a 504, rather than insisting that all kids use phones, just because your kid needs one due to their specific health condition.

The teacher bought the food and gave it to my child who expressed concern and she said they can eat it. In hs, we’ve had other emergencies. We had a 504 at the time. We dropped it as it was useless. You need to monitor your kid. If my kid abuses the phone or for other reasons we take it and lock it away. They have a watch to contact us. Try parenting.

You need to monitor an elementary school kid. By high school, anyone with a life-threatening allergy needs to be able to advocate and fend for themselves. Why should a kid that age be calling you on their cellphone to tell you they need to use an epi pen? By the time you were able to help them, it would be too late.

That’s great but not all kids of any age can advocate for themselves and I was to know asap. Don’t trust mcps.

Why don't you "try parenting" as you told people upthread? You're telling parents to monitor how kids use of an electronic device when they're not around their kids, and you aren't able to teach your kid to be careful when eating potential life threatening allergens.

You do realize some kids have special needs, espeially in the younger grades and cannot advocate for themselves. Stay blessed.

Elementary and middle schools have the away all day policy for phones-this is a discussion on high school. Stay focused on the topic.

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Go look up the definition of need. No one needs a cell phone. Humans need food water and shelter. We need rules enforced in a civilized society. Teachers need support to do their jobs. No one needs cell phones.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look up the definition of need. No one needs a cell phone. Humans need food water and shelter. We need rules enforced in a civilized society. Teachers need support to do their jobs. No one needs cell phones.

And yet here you are on your phone or device.

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Society needs to know about the crime and violence as well as the retaliation motives in mcps if we are to attracted more teachers to a corrupted profession

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Anonymous wrote:Go look up the definition of need. No one needs a cell phone. Humans need food water and shelter. We need rules enforced in a civilized society. Teachers need support to do their jobs. No one needs cell phones.

You aren’t very bright. Need is determined relative to some assumed goal. So do you need a phone to live? No. Do you need one to be able to do do certain jobs? Yes! Do you need a phone under certain conditions if your goal is to track and monitor them to some specificity and with some notifications? Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look up the definition of need. No one needs a cell phone. Humans need food water and shelter. We need rules enforced in a civilized society. Teachers need support to do their jobs. No one needs cell phones.

You aren’t very bright. Need is determined relative to some assumed goal. So do you need a phone to live? No. Do you need one to be able to do do certain jobs? Yes! Do you need a phone under certain conditions if your goal is to track and monitor them to some specificity and with some notifications? Yes.

DP - very rarely do children *need* phones at school. That’s the issue here.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look up the definition of need. No one needs a cell phone. Humans need food water and shelter. We need rules enforced in a civilized society. Teachers need support to do their jobs. No one needs cell phones.

Do the teachers really need to be showing kids multiple videos per day on the giant screens in their classrooms?

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Do parents really need to harass teachers for manipulating higher grades and working with admin to smear teachers who are challenging students?

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Extra extra. Parents commonly manipulate teachers who have no support and no tenure and low wages,(they can't afford not to play parent psych ball)

Now all parents know the unwritten rules. Jerks

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Good. I’m glad they feel blind sided. Stupid policy. Parents don’t know what goes on in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look up the definition of need. No one needs a cell phone. Humans need food water and shelter. We need rules enforced in a civilized society. Teachers need support to do their jobs. No one needs cell phones.

You aren’t very bright. Need is determined relative to some assumed goal. So do you need a phone to live? No. Do you need one to be able to do do certain jobs? Yes! Do you need a phone under certain conditions if your goal is to track and monitor them to some specificity and with some notifications? Yes.

DP - very rarely do children *need* phones at school. That’s the issue here.

So, why do your kids have phones. Mine need to communicate with me. If they abuse it, it gets taken away and they have a watch. Plans change.

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Anonymous wrote:Extra extra. Parents commonly manipulate teachers who have no support and no tenure and low wages,(they can't afford not to play parent psych ball)

Now all parents know the unwritten rules. Jerks

Teachers need to take charge of their classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:Extra extra. Parents commonly manipulate teachers who have no support and no tenure and low wages,(they can't afford not to play parent psych ball)

Now all parents know the unwritten rules. Jerks

Teachers need to take charge of their classrooms.

Can you please tell us how? When admin gives ZERO support? I had two winners try out the newest TikTok challenge in my classroom and almost caused a fire. Why? They wanted to record it for clout. They were back after a “talk” with admin! So what’s the point when all these kids just do what they want.

Tell me why kids need phones while they are supposed to be putting their efforts towards their education??? I hate this job now. I really hate it. Having to police 30+ phones while teaching? It’s horrible. Phones are a BIG part of the problem. If you REALLY need to have 24/7 contact with your child keep them home. Please. You are just hurting everyone with your lack of awareness. We aren’t babysitters. We are trying to help your children. The LEAST you could do is think about the big picture and how this policy benefits the school system as a whole.