So they got their because of their MS gpa and 2 years of work. There's a reason they did that--because their undergrad alone was not going to make them a viable candidate for medical school. Gonna goes they had a really good MCAT and excellent GPA for their MS and great recommendations for their internship specifically targetted for someone on path to med school. That is very different. Point still stands that most people are not getting into medical school with a sub 3.7GPA |
+1 The SAT score is just one of many factors. |
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It's an issue when you want in state and your in state isn't test optional. |
“travesty” 😝😝😝 |
1. You’re responding to me here. Obviously: Most people here with kids with SATs under 1400 either have a hard time getting information (because, for example, they’re from other countries) or their kids have the special situations. 2. An example of an area Jesuit college that’s hungry for students, has an 84% acceptance rate and has a cutoff of just 1267 for students to be in the top quarter and cutoff of 1100 for the bottom quarter: Loyola University Maryland — https://www.niche.com/colleges/loyola-university-maryland/ It has about 4,000 students and a lovely urban campus. Just the fact that it’s a Jesuit school means that it’s probably a great school either for a student who just wants a credential or for a student who enjoys the classes and wants to go deeper. Most kids with SATs over 1400 might not leap to go there, but it seems like a fine, accessible school. If a student who’s a good fit for that school wants to go there, that student doesn’t have to spend a lot of time going on DCUM to figure out what the admissions office will want. |
Loyola is a great school in many ways and the faculty is excellent (I was an adjunct tgere for a few years after attending grad school). It is pretty expensive. |
Loyola's list price is just under 70k per year |
Let's split the difference: what about a kid with 1400 at Walls or J-R? Definitely underresourced schools compared to Sidwell...but presumbably those kids are not going to get the same kind of "contextual" advantage, except they may only have a handful of kids applying from their school versus 30 from Sidwell. |
At our school (which is a very average -but considered good for our area- large public with a wide spectrum of students in terms of parental backgrounds) average is 1200 for SAT. I checked and Sidwell is 1450 average. I do hope colleges consider this! |
It depends on the average SAT score for Walls or J-R and also the socioeconomic status of the individual student. If a kid is low-income at Walls scores 1400, and the average score is 1100, that kid will get a contextual advantage compared to a student at Sidwell. For example, a Yale AO explained this in their admissions podcast. |
That makes sense...what if the average score at Walls is 110 but the 1400 kid there is upper income? I'm guessing that is actually a realistic scenario. |
1310. Tulane. She’s thrilled. No merit but was offered merit from other schools like Fordham, College of Charleston. She was deferred EA as TO and submitted scores late, accepted. I agree they just have to be in the range. And that’s still above 90th percentile!! Everyone needs to calm down. |
According to the YCBK, Yale, and Dartmouth podcasts, the UMC kid wouldn't have an advantage in that context because colleges also consider parent education, job titles, zip code, etc. Schools are looking for low-income/first-generation outliers. |
So the Ivies have only rich private school kids and poor public school kids. |