Florida abortion issue about to blow up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

Great. Let’s get it on the ballot for every state to legislate with a simple majority.
I think the pro choice side will be very satisfied with that result.

Without Roe being overturned we never would have had this opportunity.

I would rather have the protections of Roe, but the Republicans demagogued this issue for decades. So if this where we are, this is where we are. I want this completely out of politicians hands and placed in the doctor’s office with the patient. The end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

Great. Let’s get it on the ballot for every state to legislate with a simple majority.
I think the pro choice side will be very satisfied with that result.

Without Roe being overturned we never would have had this opportunity.

And if the Republicans get a trifecta they can make all 50 of those opportunities disappear.

Sure. That’s the point. They are liars. They lie about the science. They lie about the data. They lie about the laws they write. They lie about the consequences of their ignorant decisions. They lie about giving the power to states. They lie about letting each state’s citizens decide. They lie about public opinion supporting women’s health. And most of all they lie about caring about babies, children, and women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

Great. Let’s get it on the ballot for every state to legislate with a simple majority.
I think the pro choice side will be very satisfied with that result.

Without Roe being overturned we never would have had this opportunity.

And if the Republicans get a trifecta they can make all 50 of those opportunities disappear.

Sure. That’s the point. They are liars. They lie about the science. They lie about the data. They lie about the laws they write. They lie about the consequences of their ignorant decisions. They lie about giving the power to states. They lie about letting each state’s citizens decide. They lie about public opinion supporting women’s health. And most of all they lie about caring about babies, children, and women.

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The ability to decide what happens to your own body is like the key point of liberty. Without that, women are enslaved. This is not something that Republicans should be able to lie about but they do and will continue to do so as a mass media that is beholden to Republican viewpoints will not meaningfully tell the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

Great. Let’s get it on the ballot for every state to legislate with a simple majority.
I think the pro choice side will be very satisfied with that result.

Without Roe being overturned we never would have had this opportunity.

And if the Republicans get a trifecta they can make all 50 of those opportunities disappear.

Sure. That’s the point. They are liars. They lie about the science. They lie about the data. They lie about the laws they write. They lie about the consequences of their ignorant decisions. They lie about giving the power to states. They lie about letting each state’s citizens decide. They lie about public opinion supporting women’s health. And most of all they lie about caring about babies, children, and women.

The simplest explanation for the above is that you’re defining any information at odds with your world view as a “lie”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

Great. Let’s get it on the ballot for every state to legislate with a simple majority.
I think the pro choice side will be very satisfied with that result.

Without Roe being overturned we never would have had this opportunity.

And if the Republicans get a trifecta they can make all 50 of those opportunities disappear.

Sure. That’s the point. They are liars. They lie about the science. They lie about the data. They lie about the laws they write. They lie about the consequences of their ignorant decisions. They lie about giving the power to states. They lie about letting each state’s citizens decide. They lie about public opinion supporting women’s health. And most of all they lie about caring about babies, children, and women.

The simplest explanation for the above is that you’re defining any information at odds with your world view as a “lie”.

Is it a lie that republicans say Americans don’t support choice when the majority do?
Is it a lie that republicans have tried to block states amendments on ballots in every state that’s voted on the issue? Republicans are lying about maternal mortality rates post Roe.
They’re lying about women getting exceptions for rape, incest, health, and now even life of the mother. All of these lie have been exposed many times over on this thread and the other Roe thread. Your ignorance is inexcusable but entirely predictable.
But it doesn’t matter, “ women are not without electoral or political power”
November is coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

You understand that women don’t get to advanced stages of pregnancy, then suddenly change their minds about having a baby, right? The vast majority of abortions happening after roughly 18-20 weeks or so are due to fatal fetal anomalies or health/life of the mother. This business that forced-brothers cooked up (and Trump very happily parrots) regarding women terminating up to and “after” the moment of birth is a disgusting scare-tactic and isn’t actually A Thing.
Good Lord, have some of you really gone your entire lives without knowing a woman who received devastating news about her pregnancy? How very fortunate for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Does voting on who can control my body freak me out? Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Does voting on who can control my body freak me out? Yes.

Good news! If the GOP wins and gets to accomplish all their Project 2025 goals and gets to ban abortion and birth control and kicks out all the brown people (even the ones who voted for the Republican Party), women won’t get to vote anymore!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

I sincerely hope you or someone you care about finds themselves in a situation where you “just” have to fly across the country to get a medical procedure on a doomed pregnancy, spending money you don’t have, and experience antiabortionist extremists screaming at you in your state of grief. It’s the only way absolutists like you will ever recognize the trauma of difficult pregnancies.

—one who knows

PS FU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the US today. In 2024. WTAF.




I hate Republicans.

That map must be upsetting to Democrats who for years have convinced each other that they’re on the winning side of this political argument.

Anyway, if it’s really that important, and not just a political hammer to keep your side from thinking about straying to the other side, why not set up a charity that flies women to Chicago, Denver, or New York and offer free “medical care”?

Every woman in the US should have the right to have accessible healthcare.

Ds underestimated the decades-long crusade by the far-right extremists against women. There will be a reckoning though.

You know it’s not that simple, right? There is more than one life to consider. Thus the decades of debate and wide range of limitations that states have placed on abortion. The good news for abortion absolutists is that you have 8 states to choose from if you really want to go through with it at 39 weeks.

I sincerely hope you or someone you care about finds themselves in a situation where you “just” have to fly across the country to get a medical procedure on a doomed pregnancy, spending money you don’t have, and experience antiabortionist extremists screaming at you in your state of grief. It’s the only way absolutists like you will ever recognize the trauma of difficult pregnancies.

—one who knows

PS FU

No one ever thinks that they will need an abortion, until they do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Women will be voting for the right to control their own bodies.

As we have seen already already in red states, that drives voters to the polls.

Women’s bodies can be controlled by birth control too. Abortion is not the only way women can control their bodies. Men can use condoms or get vasectomies to control their bodies and prevent their bodies from getting women pregnant.

Both men and women can prevent pregnancy by using birth control. Their unborn babies bodies will be killed during the abortion; that’s who is killed during abortion. Voting on who can be killed because adult men and women don’t control their bodies is scary to me. I don’t think other humans should die because adults don’t take precautions.

You need to educate yourself. Birth control is important but stop this ignorant view that birth control is the answer to many problems. Rapes, miscarriages, fertility problems, birth control failure, fetal abnormalities, driving health care professionals away from red states, etc. Birth control does nothing for any of these issues.

Agree. You need to get a clue. Think through each item on this list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Women will be voting for the right to control their own bodies.

As we have seen already already in red states, that drives voters to the polls.

Women’s bodies can be controlled by birth control too. Abortion is not the only way women can control their bodies. Men can use condoms or get vasectomies to control their bodies and prevent their bodies from getting women pregnant.

Both men and women can prevent pregnancy by using birth control. Their unborn babies bodies will be killed during the abortion; that’s who is killed during abortion. Voting on who can be killed because adult men and women don’t control their bodies is scary to me. I don’t think other humans should die because adults don’t take precautions.

You need to educate yourself. Birth control is important but stop this ignorant view that birth control is the answer to many problems. Rapes, miscarriages, fertility problems, birth control failure, fetal abnormalities, driving health care professionals away from red states, etc. Birth control does nothing for any of these issues.

Agree. You need to get a clue. Think through each item on this list.

We have a clue. Many of us are quite familiar with that entire list either personally or via a family member or friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Women will be voting for the right to control their own bodies.

As we have seen already already in red states, that drives voters to the polls.

Women’s bodies can be controlled by birth control too. Abortion is not the only way women can control their bodies. Men can use condoms or get vasectomies to control their bodies and prevent their bodies from getting women pregnant.

Both men and women can prevent pregnancy by using birth control. Their unborn babies bodies will be killed during the abortion; that’s who is killed during abortion. Voting on who can be killed because adult men and women don’t control their bodies is scary to me. I don’t think other humans should die because adults don’t take precautions.

You need to educate yourself. Birth control is important but stop this ignorant view that birth control is the answer to many problems. Rapes, miscarriages, fertility problems, birth control failure, fetal abnormalities, driving health care professionals away from red states, etc. Birth control does nothing for any of these issues.

Agree. You need to get a clue. Think through each item on this list.

We have a clue. Many of us are quite familiar with that entire list either personally or via a family member or friend.

dp.. are any of you aware of or experienced life threatening or nonviable pregnancies ?

I have no personal experience with either, but I can sympathize with women who have such issues. My cousin went through it. Very much wanted baby but the baby had such abnormalities that the baby would not have survived. This was around the 20 week mark. They were devastated. She got an abortion, and got pregnant again. Healthy baby who is now about 6mo old. Very adorable. I got to hold him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Does voting on who can control my body freak me out? Yes.

Good news! If the GOP wins and gets to accomplish all their Project 2025 goals and gets to ban abortion and birth control and kicks out all the brown people (even the ones who voted for the Republican Party), women won’t get to vote anymore!

If that really happens, you don't think chaos would occur?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does voting on who is allowed to be killed freak anyone else out?

Does voting on who can control my body freak me out? Yes.

Good news! If the GOP wins and gets to accomplish all their Project 2025 goals and gets to ban abortion and birth control and kicks out all the brown people (even the ones who voted for the Republican Party), women won’t get to vote anymore!

If that really happens, you don't think chaos would occur?

The bloody chaos will occur in hospital parking lots and ignored by the media.
No one is coming to save us once this ship sails. Vote in November, or women can get used to second class citizenship for a generation.