ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And you dont need to make proof of grade a big issue. Just have all clubs put proof of grade pics on a share that all other clubs have access to. Then make it clubs responsibility to police each other for cheaters.

I promise you that theres enough busy body moms out there that are just looking for things like this.

What about the schools that don't have defined grades?

My son was in this situation. His “Pod” had 3rd 4th and 5th graders in one room. 16 kids.
We could have easily produced paperwork to say whatever we wanted it to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No issue with Jan to July kids playing "down" with Aug-Dec kids for the past 8 years, but all of a sudden all the Jan-July parents are upset that August kids are cheaters ... crazy

No the issue is if youre going to switch from BY to SY do it right and address all the issues. Don't resolve one issue by creating another.

Can you think of an outside the box way that will address all of the issues where everyone will agree that the plan is the correct way to go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12 month window is more than enough. Just because Karen could t get her kid to school on time doesn’t mean they need a life time exception.

Here is a crazy solution, this solves both the Q3/4 Karen complaints, and RAE!

What if we do a 10 month window?

March-December.

We take out all the Jan / Feb kids, so RAE is solved. And, if they want to play, they have to play up a year, which makes Karen happy because her September kid gets to punch Jan/Feb babies in the face while she brags about how dear son Chadwick is already thinking about Europe at the ripe age of 8, and that’s why it’s so hard to fit French AND Spanish lessons in between practices.

Geez ... what's next Thunderdome?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12 month window is more than enough. Just because Karen could t get her kid to school on time doesn’t mean they need a life time exception.

Here is a crazy solution, this solves both the Q3/4 Karen complaints, and RAE!

What if we do a 10 month window?

March-December.

We take out all the Jan / Feb kids, so RAE is solved. And, if they want to play, they have to play up a year, which makes Karen happy because her September kid gets to punch Jan/Feb babies in the face while she brags about how dear son Chadwick is already thinking about Europe at the ripe age of 8, and that’s why it’s so hard to fit French AND Spanish lessons in between practices.

Geez ... what's next Thunderdome?

Anson had it right, a cauldron of competition! We figured it out too late. Thunderdome it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And you dont need to make proof of grade a big issue. Just have all clubs put proof of grade pics on a share that all other clubs have access to. Then make it clubs responsibility to police each other for cheaters.

I promise you that theres enough busy body moms out there that are just looking for things like this.

What about the schools that don't have defined grades?

My son was in this situation. His “Pod” had 3rd 4th and 5th graders in one room. 16 kids.
We could have easily produced paperwork to say whatever we wanted it to say.

Most Montessori schools are like this. They are still assigned a “year” but are in class with kids in multiple “grades.” But this example doesn’t matter. Soccer cutoff is based on a calendar year starting on 8/1. There will be a small number of kids not aligned with their grade. Right now - there are a lot of kids not aligned with their grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No issue with Jan to July kids playing "down" with Aug-Dec kids for the past 8 years, but all of a sudden all the Jan-July parents are upset that August kids are cheaters ... crazy

No the issue is if youre going to switch from BY to SY do it right and address all the issues. Don't resolve one issue by creating another.

Can you think of an outside the box way that will address all of the issues where everyone will agree that the plan is the correct way to go?

Your problem is thinking everyone has to agree. A 12-month cutoff without waivers is what’s going to happen so you’ll just have to deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No issue with Jan to July kids playing "down" with Aug-Dec kids for the past 8 years, but all of a sudden all the Jan-July parents are upset that August kids are cheaters ... crazy

No the issue is if youre going to switch from BY to SY do it right and address all the issues. Don't resolve one issue by creating another.

Can you think of an outside the box way that will address all of the issues where everyone will agree that the plan is the correct way to go?

Your problem is thinking everyone has to agree. A 12-month cutoff without waivers is what’s going to happen so you’ll just have to deal.

If they were going to do waivers it would be 9/1 or 10/1 as the cut off. Moving to 8/1 makes waivers moot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And you dont need to make proof of grade a big issue. Just have all clubs put proof of grade pics on a share that all other clubs have access to. Then make it clubs responsibility to police each other for cheaters.

I promise you that theres enough busy body moms out there that are just looking for things like this.

What about the schools that don't have defined grades?

My son was in this situation. His “Pod” had 3rd 4th and 5th graders in one room. 16 kids.
We could have easily produced paperwork to say whatever we wanted it to say.

Most Montessori schools are like this. They are still assigned a “year” but are in class with kids in multiple “grades.” But this example doesn’t matter. Soccer cutoff is based on a calendar year starting on 8/1. There will be a small number of kids not aligned with their grade. Right now - there are a lot of kids not aligned with their grade.

Yeah my littlest is just in bird song year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12 month window is more than enough. Just because Karen could t get her kid to school on time doesn’t mean they need a life time exception.

Has nothing to do with Karen. Different school districts around the US have different start dates. This is why a single cutoff date will never work for everyone.

Grad Year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is going Grad Year for showcases.
League play and nationals will be 8/1.
U19 will also be grad year from what I’m told.

My buddy is a lawyer and works as a consultant for USSF. So he gets details on some of this stuff.

I’ve been calling my shots since the beginning.

Hate it or love it it is what it is.

Beginning August 2025?

26/27

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is going Grad Year for showcases.
League play and nationals will be 8/1.
U19 will also be grad year from what I’m told.

My buddy is a lawyer and works as a consultant for USSF. So he gets details on some of this stuff.

I’ve been calling my shots since the beginning.

Hate it or love it it is what it is.

Hey "shotcaller"

SY+30 with a 9/1 cutoff is the same thing as an 8/1 cutoff.

Theres all kinds of things that can happen

If you wanna be baller shot caller…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is going Grad Year for showcases.
League play and nationals will be 8/1.
U19 will also be grad year from what I’m told.

My buddy is a lawyer and works as a consultant for USSF. So he gets details on some of this stuff.

I’ve been calling my shots since the beginning.

Hate it or love it it is what it is.

Beginning August 2025?

They have no clue + are just making things up.

Probably the same numbnut that claimed to have "Trish the Commish" from GA on speeddial.

Lol nope not that guy they are on here somewhere lurking in the shadows.

I’m the guy in September who said they are changing to SY.

Then I was the guy saying they are going 8/1 and everyone said you idiot they announced 9/1.

Now in the guy saying ECNL showcases will be GY as of now that will be for U15-19. But things can change.

If I find out I will let you know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is going Grad Year for showcases.
League play and nationals will be 8/1.
U19 will also be grad year from what I’m told.

My buddy is a lawyer and works as a consultant for USSF. So he gets details on some of this stuff.

I’ve been calling my shots since the beginning.

Hate it or love it it is what it is.

Beginning August 2025?

They have no clue + are just making things up.

Probably the same numbnut that claimed to have "Trish the Commish" from GA on speeddial.

Lol nope not that guy they are on here somewhere lurking in the shadows.

I’m the guy in September who said they are changing to SY.

Then I was the guy saying they are going 8/1 and everyone said you idiot they announced 9/1.

Now in the guy saying ECNL showcases will be GY as of now that will be for U15-19. But things can change.

If I find out I will let you know.

You dont know anything.

They only thing you know how to do is write about the delusions in your head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL is going Grad Year for showcases.
League play and nationals will be 8/1.
U19 will also be grad year from what I’m told.

My buddy is a lawyer and works as a consultant for USSF. So he gets details on some of this stuff.

I’ve been calling my shots since the beginning.

Hate it or love it it is what it is.

Beginning August 2025?

They have no clue + are just making things up.

Probably the same numbnut that claimed to have "Trish the Commish" from GA on speeddial.

Lol nope not that guy they are on here somewhere lurking in the shadows.

I’m the guy in September who said they are changing to SY.

Then I was the guy saying they are going 8/1 and everyone said you idiot they announced 9/1.

Now in the guy saying ECNL showcases will be GY as of now that will be for U15-19. But things can change.

If I find out I will let you know.

You dont know anything.

They only thing you know how to do is write about the delusions in your head.

Maybe…?

[Anonymous]

Can anyone dumb this down for me. No matter how many times I read it, I just can't understand it. I'll make up a pretend scenario. Can someone try to explain?

My child was born September 5, 2017, but we waited to start school due to Covid. Instead of going into 3rd grade, my child will be entering 2nd grade. Under the birth year system, my child is playing with other 2017s who are mostly going into 3rd grade next year and who are mostly older since my child's birthday is near the end of the year. In this scenario, my child is in a lower grade than soccer peers on the current team.

New system ---> August 1-July 31 dates. Are those the cut off dates for when the birthday occurs? Does that mean to be on a U9 team, you would have to be 9 years old or under that specific year between the dates of August 1 to July 31? If so, does that put a September 5, 2017 birthday as a U9 player this year AND next year when the change occurs since September 5, 2026 is when my child turns 9?

Please help my tired brain.