Best private schools in NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

So what you’re saying is that st paul’s, without telling parents, only supports five applications for each student. They do this without consent from anyone, without publicly disclosing it, limiting the ability of their own students to choose where they matriculate, possibly hurting their own stats, and everyone, both school admin, students, and parents, are ok with this?

Sounds reasonable.

I personally think that limiting the number of colleges people can apply to should happen, but I don’t believe this happens at sps, at least not as you’ve described.

The parents and students and faculty know this rule. They don’t broadcast it to the public or on admitted students day. It isn’t a secret on campus.

Just had a friend with a kid at SPS send the SPS high scholars handbook. This is what they say under the FINAL LIST OF COLLEGES banner: “Remember that your list should reflect an appropriate balance, and we recommend that you have 2-3 reach schools, 2-3 possible schools, and 2-3 likely schools. You should not plan to apply to more than 12 colleges without your adviser’s expressed permission.”

Why write fake stuff and provide misinformation? Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

Can’t you just apply early decision? Or say in your cover letter “Note: my school Hufflepuff Academy has indicated that they do not approve of my applying to your institution, rest assured that whatever they may have told you I actually love Penn and am desperate to go there?” It’s usually the same admissions officer reading all of the files from a particular school for several years, presumably they’d eventually catch on if a school kept insisting that certain students didn’t want to go there.

You can apply anywhere you want ED. If you don’t get in, you apply to four RD.

You are underestimating the reliability of TT college counselors. Penn is a stand in for that sixth school they were told not to apply to. The counselors know their true number 1, 2, 3 etc. When an admissions officer gets a call that a student is a bad applicant, they have 9 other applicants who can take the spot.

Why would they take the school's word on that, though?

Also, if a school did keep steering them away from the students they would otherwise be inclined to pick, wouldn't that lower the perceived quality of the school? If they're willing to take five kids from your school, five of your kids are in the A pile and five of them are in the B pile, and you talk the school out of offering spaces to three of the kids on the A pile, they're going to end up with two A's and three B's instead of five A's, and maybe next year they'll only take two kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

Direct us to the policy, please. I’ve found nothing indicating a limit on the number of colleges you can apply to.

They’d never write out the policy publicly, for reasons you can probably surmise.

No, tell us the reason. I want to see it spelled out.

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

So what you’re saying is that st paul’s, without telling parents, only supports five applications for each student. They do this without consent from anyone, without publicly disclosing it, limiting the ability of their own students to choose where they matriculate, possibly hurting their own stats, and everyone, both school admin, students, and parents, are ok with this?

Sounds reasonable.

I personally think that limiting the number of colleges people can apply to should happen, but I don’t believe this happens at sps, at least not as you’ve described.

NP - People talk about limiting college applications frequent enough on college confidential, apply to college subreddit, and DCUM’s College and University discussion for everyone to be lying.


You will get more knowledgeable posters if you take the conversation over there.

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I mean if this is true - and that's a big if - it would be a pretty strong argument for unconnected kids to take their chances at a specialized high school instead of a TT private, because nobody at Bronx Science is going to take a personal interest in tanking your Harvard application to make sure you don't box out some important donor's kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean if this is true - and that's a big if - it would be a pretty strong argument for unconnected kids to take their chances at a specialized high school instead of a TT private, because nobody at Bronx Science is going to take a personal interest in tanking your Harvard application to make sure you don't box out some important donor's kid.

They limit because selective colleges will only make a couple offers to a graduating class.

And the top 10 students could take up all the offers - and they can only attend one school each. This happened in graduating class above DC. Top three students applied to all top SLACs (Amherst, Swat, Bowdoin, Pomona, etc). And got offers - but kids chose legacy schools - parents went to top Ivies (HYP).

So, next 25-30 ranked students get very few offers from top SLACs. And no one from school ended up at Pomona, Amherst, Williams, Bowdoin, etc. Not a good result for majority of students or for the school.

And for those asking how I know….those dots in naviance are very telling. The other kids know and parents know. You are not anonymous on naviance - and god help a younger sibling following a kid who hoarded offers. And thought….“I just wanted to see if I could get in” but never intended to attend - has consequences in a private school with a graduating class of 100 to 200.

OP, if you go in and say you are going for schools that offer merit, counselors will help. And tipy top schools don’t offer merit - but offer grants for lower income families - nothing for families in middle. But merit is offered to great students at Maclester, Oberlin, Kenyon.
These are great schools but not tipy top schools. And these type of schools will make half dozen offers to a graduating class.

Counselors will probably help you identify best schools to go for merit. But this best done one on one with counselor.

It's the gratuitous blanketing of applications that limits opportunities. If you think an unlimited number of applications is great, then you can move to NYC and send your child to Stuyvesant and Bronx Science where all the sweaty 2nd gen kids apply to a gazillion schools. I'm so happy not to be a parent with a child in that environment.

I have a kid at Hunter College High School (similar to Stuy/Bronx), and they limit to 10 private apps. It is a very controversial policy, but I am a fan. I don't want my child applying to 25 schools. And anecdotally I hear it winds up doing them no favors.

I went to prep school in the 80s and, different scene, but they did it back then, too. They do it so the top few of the class don't keep the others from getting in. They can't explain it that way because no college will ever admit to having a quote from Prep School Academy. not will the high school openly admit in this day and age to restricting your child's choices. But realistically speaking, top colleges know that they can reliably get x number of successful students per year from Prep School Academy. So the counselor doesn't want the strongest kid to take that spot at all the Ivies.

To give an example, I got into Harvard early back in the day but thought about applying to Yale and Princeton to see which I preferred. My counselor had a Frank conversation with me and said, I think you'll get in but you'll take your classmates's spots. Do you want to do that? Of course I said, no. I didn't want to do that and felt like a jerk for even thinking about my friends getting rejected so that I could have a choice.

There are so many things wrong with the way things used to work and, to a much lesser extent, still do work. But I don't have a problem with this one.

Link: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1231490.page

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

So what you’re saying is that st paul’s, without telling parents, only supports five applications for each student. They do this without consent from anyone, without publicly disclosing it, limiting the ability of their own students to choose where they matriculate, possibly hurting their own stats, and everyone, both school admin, students, and parents, are ok with this?

Sounds reasonable.

I personally think that limiting the number of colleges people can apply to should happen, but I don’t believe this happens at sps, at least not as you’ve described.

St. Paul's is a horrible and unethical institution, so this wouldn't surprise me.

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

So what you’re saying is that st paul’s, without telling parents, only supports five applications for each student. They do this without consent from anyone, without publicly disclosing it, limiting the ability of their own students to choose where they matriculate, possibly hurting their own stats, and everyone, both school admin, students, and parents, are ok with this?

Sounds reasonable.

I personally think that limiting the number of colleges people can apply to should happen, but I don’t believe this happens at sps, at least not as you’ve described.

The parents and students and faculty know this rule. They don’t broadcast it to the public or on admitted students day. It isn’t a secret on campus.

Just had a friend with a kid at SPS send the SPS high scholars handbook. This is what they say under the FINAL LIST OF COLLEGES banner: “Remember that your list should reflect an appropriate balance, and we recommend that you have 2-3 reach schools, 2-3 possible schools, and 2-3 likely schools. You should not plan to apply to more than 12 colleges without your adviser’s expressed permission.”

Why write fake stuff and provide misinformation? Just stop.

Hence why I said “as of 2015.” 11 years ago. Awhile back, not an incomparable era. Also 12 is a cap. Students at top suburban public schools apply to the entire T20.

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

Can’t you just apply early decision? Or say in your cover letter “Note: my school Hufflepuff Academy has indicated that they do not approve of my applying to your institution, rest assured that whatever they may have told you I actually love Penn and am desperate to go there?” It’s usually the same admissions officer reading all of the files from a particular school for several years, presumably they’d eventually catch on if a school kept insisting that certain students didn’t want to go there.

You can apply anywhere you want ED. If you don’t get in, you apply to four RD.

You are underestimating the reliability of TT college counselors. Penn is a stand in for that sixth school they were told not to apply to. The counselors know their true number 1, 2, 3 etc. When an admissions officer gets a call that a student is a bad applicant, they have 9 other applicants who can take the spot.

Why would they take the school's word on that, though?

Also, if a school did keep steering them away from the students they would otherwise be inclined to pick, wouldn't that lower the perceived quality of the school? If they're willing to take five kids from your school, five of your kids are in the A pile and five of them are in the B pile, and you talk the school out of offering spaces to three of the kids on the A pile, they're going to end up with two A's and three B's instead of five A's, and maybe next year they'll only take two kids.

Because schools like SPS send a bunch of kids to ivies each year and counselors promise admissions what type of product they are getting with each applicant. They need that rapport for institutional advancement and to get students in. If a kid acts like a putz and flouts rules for an advantage over his classmates, there will be consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

So what you’re saying is that st paul’s, without telling parents, only supports five applications for each student. They do this without consent from anyone, without publicly disclosing it, limiting the ability of their own students to choose where they matriculate, possibly hurting their own stats, and everyone, both school admin, students, and parents, are ok with this?

Sounds reasonable.

I personally think that limiting the number of colleges people can apply to should happen, but I don’t believe this happens at sps, at least not as you’ve described.

St. Paul's is a horrible and unethical institution, so this wouldn't surprise me.

It’s so funny people act like TT high schools are these benevolent, amazingly charitable institutions that stick their necks out for all their students to get into an Ivy League

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Anonymous wrote:Minus the kids who were legacies from their parents. At my kids, TT I was told it’s lucky my kid is a double legacy because if they weren’t they wouldn’t even be allowed to apply to a HYP. Actually, weirdly mentioned the former head of Brearley as someone who really kept those slots for big donors to Brearley and played particularly dirty pool for who was let to apply to those schools or who the school would endorse, application-wise. my kid would die before going to my alma for reasons I won’t go into here. But you can’t just look at their percentages. They also don’t publish how many of the kids going to Harvard have been there since kinder and what percentage of kinder does well in their HS. For all you know the kids who got into harvard are the ones who didn’t go to the school since K.

"Wouldn't be allowed to apply" sorry, how exactly would they prevent that? If I were a Brearley parent and they told me my daughter couldn't apply to Harvard, I would apply anyway, forward that letter to Harvard's admissions office as an explanation for why Brearley was withholding my daughter's transcript, and CC Brearley. If it was simply a matter of withholding an "endorsement" I would trust Harvard to see through that.

They can’t prevent you. I would imagine that that poster has zero affiliation with any private school. I would also venture to guess that the majority of the posts are based purely on rumor or shoddy data. However, in my experience, it is true that they don’t necessarily encourage certain people to apply to certain schools, and that’s pretty consistent across tt’s. They also have good reasons for it, too. Some kids simply don’t have the grades to be competitive and guidance can actually be really good at their job in some ways. In other ways, they can be terrible. During my time at trinity, they weren’t exactly encouraging to students who wanted to attend schools for fine arts-based courses, which was pretty demoralizing to some friends of mine who wanted to pursue those fields. But no school is capable of telling you where/how/why/when to apply to any schools.

There are boarding schools that say you can only apply to a certain number of safeties, reaches etc. Of course, you can submit an application on common app and flaunt the rules. Have fun when the admission office tells the surplus schools you’re not serious about going there because you decided to Dare To Be Different

Which boarding schooos limit the amount of colleges you can apply to? Show us.

SPS, at least until 2015. You only applied to five, two of which were reaches, unless you had a rare and compelling reasons (you have buildings named after your family at Harvard and Princeton, but you are into science and MIT wants you for crew and you cannot decide in October). Others do this, they would never say it on their website. As said, you can always apply to more than five yourself and the schools will send your HS transcript. Good luck when they tell Penn "She has zero interest in going there and won't matriculate" and undermine you.

Direct us to the policy, please. I’ve found nothing indicating a limit on the number of colleges you can apply to.

They’d never write out the policy publicly, for reasons you can probably surmise.

No, tell us the reason. I want to see it spelled out.

Because any set of parents of an applicant without a family history of going to boarding school (most, at this point, at these schools) would balk at that policy explained to them before they are admitted and enrolled. It is an entirely foreign concept, and not one worth paying 70k a year for if you aren’t deeply familiar with these schools.

The counselors at TT have enormous power. They can’t get a dud into Harvard. They can prevent any unhooked applicant from getting in, they can say they are unstable or code it as “bad for the community” and there is zero recourse. Harvard has more than enough unhooked applicants. So if SPS tells you to Duke and Penn are good reaches and you shouldn’t apply to Brown, you follow the rules because disobeying can leave you with zero reach acceptances. And if you are a mega donors kid or a recruited athlete, you won’t care to apply to ten reaches anyway.