Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

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Anonymous wrote:When you have to brainwash yourself by listening to an album over and over and over to claim it grows on you and becomes great, you are a crazed fanatic. There’s nothing about this album which will stand the test of time. Her old stuff had classics, this is throwaway nothingness.

I'm the PP who said the album grew on me. I never listened to it "over and over and over" and that it then became great. My daughter is a fan, so yes, we listened to it a few times, as you do when new music comes out. It grew on me. Why is that so controversial that you have to berate people for it, and then play victim when people tell you to shut up? We get it. You read about exposure effect and you now have to beat everyone over the head with it. Ironic.

[Anonymous]

I’m the PP who said I listen to it on repeat - because I liked it all so much the first time. It didn’t have to grow on me.

That poster is taking bits and pieces of people’s comments, adding it to their own bias, and creating a narrative of their own. They must be young because they sound very proud that they understand a very basic theory of social influence, persuasion, and advertising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP who said I listen to it on repeat - because I liked it all so much the first time. It didn’t have to grow on me.

That poster is taking bits and pieces of people’s comments, adding it to their own bias, and creating a narrative of their own. They must be young because they sound very proud that they understand a very basic theory of social influence, persuasion, and advertising.

At least you accepted science after the link was posted!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP who said I listen to it on repeat - because I liked it all so much the first time. It didn’t have to grow on me.

That poster is taking bits and pieces of people’s comments, adding it to their own bias, and creating a narrative of their own. They must be young because they sound very proud that they understand a very basic theory of social influence, persuasion, and advertising.

At least you accepted science after the link was posted!

You mentioned it over and over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you have to brainwash yourself by listening to an album over and over and over to claim it grows on you and becomes great, you are a crazed fanatic. There’s nothing about this album which will stand the test of time. Her old stuff had classics, this is throwaway nothingness.

Imagine making a hobby of telling people their opinion was wrong day after day after day. Crazed certainly does come to mind. Almost no music today will “stand the test of time” what a silly bar to hold Taylor Swift to and nobody else.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP who said I listen to it on repeat - because I liked it all so much the first time. It didn’t have to grow on me.

That poster is taking bits and pieces of people’s comments, adding it to their own bias, and creating a narrative of their own. They must be young because they sound very proud that they understand a very basic theory of social influence, persuasion, and advertising.

At least you accepted science after the link was posted!

No, I learned about that my freshman year of college about 30 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Swiftie and seriously hated this album when it first came out. I still prefer her previous 4 albums by a lot but when I went to tell someone the few songs I liked I realized I kept listing them until I had covered 8 or 9. So it completely grew on me.

People, it’s art. It’s subjective. Relax.

Exposure effect. If you want or like to be brainwashed into enjoying something and make sure you listen to it enough to you start to like it. Okay? But that doesn’t mean the album is good.

Good lord. Shut up already. Maybe let people decide for themselves if they like something or not.

Yes, you clearly want to allow people to have their own opinions!

No. I want mine. I expressed it and you decided it was “wrong.” Have whatever opinion you want, you’re not entitled to mine too.

Amen. The “brainwashed” poster is so immature.

Except that is exactly what I said. “If you believe that- okay?” Were my words. As in okay you can believe that.

I’m not sure why telling someone to shut up about it is better and “allowing opinions” except you agree with the shut up poster.

I bolded exactly what you said. You continue to insist that anyone liking TS, this album, or any or the songs on it must be "brainwashed". You can't simply accept that people have different opinions. No one cares if you don't like this album - but for those of us who do, we don't need you telling us we're "brainwashed". So, yes - I agree with the PP. Shut up, already.

It is a known and well studied psychological phenomenon.

https://sproutsschools.com/the-mere-exposure-effect/

The mere-exposure effect is a psychological phenomenon by which we tend to like things merely because we are exposed to them.

So, simply exposing you to a random thing repeatedly, makes you like it. And the same goes for pop songs, products, and people — with the exception of those we dislike initially, seeing them more often can make us dislike them further.

Google it, there is plenty of information. If you are mad at your brain for working like this, fine. But yeah, we all get brainwashed to a certain extent.

You're trying awfully hard to insist that people can't possibly like something you do not. I've been exposed repeatedly to rap music, yet I still hate it. Same with a lot of country music. I think you're simply mad that you can't make people dislike something you dislike. It really upsets you.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Swiftie and seriously hated this album when it first came out. I still prefer her previous 4 albums by a lot but when I went to tell someone the few songs I liked I realized I kept listing them until I had covered 8 or 9. So it completely grew on me.

People, it’s art. It’s subjective. Relax.

Exposure effect. If you want or like to be brainwashed into enjoying something and make sure you listen to it enough to you start to like it. Okay? But that doesn’t mean the album is good.

Good lord. Shut up already. Maybe let people decide for themselves if they like something or not.

Yes, you clearly want to allow people to have their own opinions!

No. I want mine. I expressed it and you decided it was “wrong.” Have whatever opinion you want, you’re not entitled to mine too.

Amen. The “brainwashed” poster is so immature.

Except that is exactly what I said. “If you believe that- okay?” Were my words. As in okay you can believe that.

I’m not sure why telling someone to shut up about it is better and “allowing opinions” except you agree with the shut up poster.

I bolded exactly what you said. You continue to insist that anyone liking TS, this album, or any or the songs on it must be "brainwashed". You can't simply accept that people have different opinions. No one cares if you don't like this album - but for those of us who do, we don't need you telling us we're "brainwashed". So, yes - I agree with the PP. Shut up, already.

It is a known and well studied psychological phenomenon.

https://sproutsschools.com/the-mere-exposure-effect/

The mere-exposure effect is a psychological phenomenon by which we tend to like things merely because we are exposed to them.

So, simply exposing you to a random thing repeatedly, makes you like it. And the same goes for pop songs, products, and people — with the exception of those we dislike initially, seeing them more often can make us dislike them further.

Google it, there is plenty of information. If you are mad at your brain for working like this, fine. But yeah, we all get brainwashed to a certain extent.

DP but this doesn’t explain why somebody might like a Taylor song. I’ve heard a ton of Christmas songs 1000 times and it doesn’t mean that I don’t cringe when I hear them or that I enjoy them.

I can think of a ton of popular songs that I have heard over and over again, but I still don’t like. It’s true that there are some songs that you might be ambivalent about that once you hear them more and more you like them, but it doesn’t explain every song. It’s stupid to say people like Taylor just because they hear her so often. A lot of her most streamed songs are not the hits on the radio. I’m very certain true Taylor fans don’t all really like Shake it off. I don’t like most of her songs that hit the radio with a few exceptions.

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Most of the TS songs that I *don't* like are the ones that were played all the time, back in the day (Shake it Off, Blank Space, etc.). Or, I shouldn't say I don't like them, I'm just tired of them. They were fun when they first came out, but nothing I'd choose to play now. My true favorites are the ones that never received that kind of play, that you have to deliberately find, and that weren't on her early albums. The PP is going to have a stroke trying to convince people that they couldn't possibly like what they like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw someone on here getting called an idiot because they described the song Wood before the album came out and it sounded so obviously cringe. But now the album is great. Give me a break.

The album's not a flop - that particular song might be though. It's definitely cringe, IMO. But that's ok. Most albums have a few duds. *shrug*

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Anonymous wrote:I like every song. Never listened to a whole album of hers before and can’t tell you much about her life or music.

Music theorists and Shakespeare professors judge it positively too.

wood? wishlist? really?

DP. I hate Wood, Actually Romantic, Elizabeth Taylor, Cancelled, and Father Figure. Love the others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I saw someone on here getting called an idiot because they described the song Wood before the album came out and it sounded so obviously cringe. But now the album is great. Give me a break.

Is Taylor the only artist held to the standard of all songs must be amazing on every album?

Because when I was growing up, we got 1-3 good songs per album max. The rest were ignored by fans and the radio stations.

Yep. The poor PP, wringing her hands over this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you have to brainwash yourself by listening to an album over and over and over to claim it grows on you and becomes great, you are a crazed fanatic. There’s nothing about this album which will stand the test of time. Her old stuff had classics, this is throwaway nothingness.

Still doubling down on your "brainwashing" comments? And calling others "crazed fanatics"? That's some impeccable projection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you have to brainwash yourself by listening to an album over and over and over to claim it grows on you and becomes great, you are a crazed fanatic. There’s nothing about this album which will stand the test of time. Her old stuff had classics, this is throwaway nothingness.

I'm the PP who said the album grew on me. I never listened to it "over and over and over" and that it then became great. My daughter is a fan, so yes, we listened to it a few times, as you do when new music comes out. It grew on me. Why is that so controversial that you have to berate people for it, and then play victim when people tell you to shut up? We get it. You read about exposure effect and you now have to beat everyone over the head with it. Ironic.

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The PP is a perfect example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[Anonymous]

I always have to listen to her albums a few times to decide if I like them or not. I like the new one better than the first half of her last one.

Wood is still not for me. Love Actually Romantic! My favorite song on the album.

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Anonymous wrote:I like every song. Never listened to a whole album of hers before and can’t tell you much about her life or music.

Music theorists and Shakespeare professors judge it positively too.

wood? wishlist? really?

DP. I hate Wood, Actually Romantic, Elizabeth Taylor, Cancelled, and Father Figure. Love the others.

I like the clean version of Wood--seems more fun and less cringe. Elizabeth Taylor and Father Figure are all right by me. SHe does some deep diving on ET lore and I like that.

Life of a Showgirl (sabrina, swoon!!,) Honey, and Opalite are my faves on it, though. NGL, I love to do the Ophelia dance!